Monday, July 2nd 2018

NVIDIA "GT104" Based GeForce GTX 1180 Surfaces on Vietnamese Stores

A Vietnamese online store put up the first listing of a GeForce GTX 1180 based ASUS ROG Strix graphics card. The store even put out some specifications of the card, beginning with it being based on the "GT104" silicon, based on the "Turing" series. With "Turing" NVIDIA appears to be forking its GPU architectures on the basis of chips that feature DPFP (double-precision floating point) cores and Tensor cores, and those that lack both (and only feature SPFP cores). "Turing" is probably a fork of "Volta" that lacks both DPFP CUDA cores and Tensor cores; and sticks to the cheaper GDDR6 memory architecture, while "Volta" based GPUs, such as the TITAN V, implement pricier HBM2 memory.

Among the specifications of the GeForce GTX 1180 are 3,584 CUDA cores, and 16 GB of GDDR6 memory across a 256-bit wide memory interface. The memory is clocked at 14 GHz (GDDR6-effective), which works out to 409.6 GB/s of memory bandwidth. Pre-launch prices, just like most specifications, tend to be bovine excrement, which in this case converts to a little over USD $1,500, and isn't really relevant. What is, however, interesting is the availability date of September 28.
Source: samcuu (Reddit)
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122 Comments on NVIDIA "GT104" Based GeForce GTX 1180 Surfaces on Vietnamese Stores

#51
ensabrenoir
....Don't care whats its called its sure to perform and people will buy it. ....its Nvdia....the evil geniuses that will get peoples money no matter what (Titian Z still have a fan club). Would be cool though if they do a 970 like release pricing that will get everyone to upgrade without much thought. They would also re-badge the over stock left over 10 seriers as a lower model 11 series though knowing them.
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#52
bug
R0H1TTbh he has a point about better nomenclature that clearly defines what you're buying, we badly need this in the computing industry when model numbers are recycled like anything! Hey does anyone remember what gen of Core we're on?
Make no mistake, these numbers, suffixes and prefixes are picked by a specialized department. They are anything but random.
Their true meaning is to seem helpful, but at the same time confusing enough so that a seller can pitch to the uninformed a more expensive product than they need ;)
That's never going to change.

For bonus points, look at Intel's Xeon lineup and then try to put SKUs in (any) order.
ensabrenoir....Don't care whats its called its sure to perform and people will buy it. ....its Nvdia....the evil geniuses that will get peoples money no matter what (Titian Z still have a fan club). Would be cool though if they do a 970 like release pricing that will get everyone to upgrade without much thought. They would also re-badge the over stock left over 10 seriers as a lower model 11 series though knowing them.
Nvidia renamed desktop GPUs like twice in the past decade (8000->9000 and 400->500). AMD did it with every generation up until (and excluding) RX480.
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#53
fynxer
FAKE FAKE FAKE!!!

Check the top of the box far end, they have blurred out 1080 probably because they could not get photo shopped 1180 to look good att that angle.

Zoom in top far end and you can clearly read text around but not where it should say 1180 because it is blurred out.
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#54
TheoneandonlyMrK
cucker tarlsonStill not as misleading as rebranding 480 as 580 and 290 as 390.
btw AMD did the same thing with rx560, but cut the cards after the initial reviews, and did it secretly. Tell me that wasn't intentional :rolleyes: Just like their fake launch msrp for vega to get better initial reviews. You know, the real shady stuff that adoretv doesn't mention on his channel.
Look im not doing your tit for tat bs ,i could mention many more Nvidia naming convention f ups then that not even counting rebrands which as you know is normal practice for both companies.

Next time pm me this boring same shit stuff yeah ,at least save the thread from it, i got my vega at MSRP day one buying with bitcoin not cash.

That's not shit compared to the Real shady shit you didn't watch you mean.

Let it go or can the shill in you not do that.
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#55
yogurt_21
the msrp is supposed to be same as the 1080 ti launch price at 699$ US.

Same CUDA core count, similar memory bandwidth yet most report fewer ROPs.

performance tests between the two should be interesting. It would be really funny to build up all that hype just to launch it at the same performance level as the 1080 ti at the same msrp...

like "we heard you like the 1080 ti, so we launched a card that costs the same and performs the same with a slight internal configuration difference, ie it's cheaper for us to make..."
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#56
R0H1T
bugMake no mistake, these numbers, suffixes and prefixes are picked by a specialized department. They are anything but random.
Their true meaning is to seem helpful, but at the same time confusing enough so that a seller can pitch to the uninformed a more expensive product than they need ;)
That's never going to change.

For bonus points, look at Intel's Xeon lineup and then try to put SKUs in (any) order.
I remember the Xeons, that's why I put Intel (core) in there. The latest gen is horrendous, previously they had the E5 & E7 clearly defined. Intel takes their market segmentation too far, kinda like the dog & pony show with the 28 core 5GHz chip.

Ideally a previous gen part should not start like the current gen e.g. GT 710/730 with the 750(Ti) being Maxwell card. The laws allow it though & that's why companies get away with it, I could argue the same about phones but that's for another time.
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#57
Caring1
fynxerFAKE FAKE FAKE!!!

Check the top of the box far end, they have blurred out 1080 probably because they could not get photo shopped 1180 to look good att that angle.

Zoom in top far end and you can clearly read text around but not where it should say 1180 because it is blurred out.
Bit slow are we?
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#58
Andromos
cucker tarlsonIf it was real it should have "16G" or "whatever G" on the side of the box. It's just this edited shot of 1080 strix. Even shadows are precisely the same.




You are very right, if you zoom in on the 1180 on the side, you can see a line in between the 1's and some image artifacting.
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#59
ironcerealbox
1500 USD is a lot of VND...like 34.4 million dong...that is a lot of dong >_<

On a more serious note: it looks to be a sidegrade OR near sidegrade for those with 1080 Ti/Titan X (Pascal)/Titan Xp. The high rollers are going to have to wait until 1Q OR even 1H of 2019 for their replacement cards. The picture is for hype reasons. Y'know the kind - placeholder picture(s) to generate hype, at minimal cost, since hype seems to maximize revenue now-a-days. Oh, and RGB anything.
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#60
bug
ironcerealbox1500 USD is a lot of VND...like 34.4 million dong...that is a lot of dong >_<

On a more serious note: it looks to be a sidegrade OR near sidegrade for those with 1080 Ti/Titan X (Pascal)/Titan Xp. The high rollers are going to have to wait until 1Q OR even 1H of 2019 for their replacement cards. The picture is for hype reasons. Y'know the kind - placeholder picture(s) to generate hype, at minimal cost, since hype seems to maximize revenue now-a-days. Oh, and RGB anything.
Titan V is usually a lot faster than Titan Xp. And Titan V still has all those tensor cores with it. Cut those out, deactivate some shaders, up the clocks because the room you just made and all of a sudden it becomes rather hard to guess where the card will end up. Still, I'd say a sidegrade is a conservative estimate. At the same time, it will not obliterate the Titan V, out of respect for those who shelled out three grand to get one.
As usual, my curiosity lies with the mid-range cards, but those will come much later. Around Christmas if we're lucky; otherwise we're looking at Spring 2019.
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#62
cucker tarlson
bugTitan V is usually a lot faster than Titan Xp. And Titan V still has all those tensor cores with it. Cut those out, deactivate some shaders, up the clocks because the room you just made and all of a sudden it becomes rather hard to guess where the card will end up. Still, I'd say a sidegrade is a conservative estimate. At the same time, it will not obliterate the Titan V, out of respect for those who shelled out three grand to get one.
As usual, my curiosity lies with the mid-range cards, but those will come much later. Around Christmas if we're lucky; otherwise we're looking at Spring 2019.
I think TV is disappointing at stock settings, but once you remove the power limit and oc the memory, it flies past the TXp. Not worth the perf/price, but an absolute beast at 4K. The CEO edition must have absolutely insane perfromance considering it's got 128 ROPs and 4096-bit bus.
Prima.Vera16GB of VRAM is overkill IMO. I play on 3440x1440 and max VRAM usage I had was 6GB on my 1080GTX.
more here:
www.tweaktown.com/tweakipedia/89/much-vram-need-1080p-1440p-4k/index.html

Also is it me or the CUDA cores count is pretty low, since it just matches the 1080Ti ??
I've seen 6-7GB in many games, Deus Ex MD even had my 1080 run out of vram when msaa 2x was enabled.
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#63
LiveOrDie
OMG when does TPU post fake crap?

This took me 3min to put together, the spacing is all wrong on the 1180, who ever PS this was crap i could do better.

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#64
Slizzo
Images are likely placeholder.

This Vietnamese shop has actually accurately leaked other product launches before they happen by placing things on their store. So it's possible this is legit. But on the specs, I don't know. We'll see.
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#65
R0H1T
SlizzoImages are likely placeholder.

This Vietnamese shop has actually accurately leaked other product launches before they happen by placing things on their store. So it's possible this is legit. But on the specs, I don't know. We'll see.
That's what I was thinking as well, there's no way a legit retailer will go to such lengths to fake product launches, without tacit approval from Nvidia or ASUS. Also wouldn't ASUS shut them off (completely?) if there wasn't any truth in this?
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#66
swirl09
Stores do use fake images, that on its own doesnt point to it being a troll.

When I bought my 1080ti, the site I bought it from (Overclockers) had a comically bad page up. Of the 2 images shown at the time, 1 only shopped on one side, while the other was literally the 1080 without even a poor effort to shop any part of it. But I bought it the second it was available and they clearly threw those up as place holders.
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#67
T4C Fantasy
CPU & GPU DB Maintainer
RejZoRNo it doesn't. New actual models always jump major numbers. Which is GTX 1xxx and GTX 2xxx. With this logic, it should be called GTX 1090 and still make sense somehow as brand new GPU... Which is why I'm questioning this numbering decision if real.
The naming has been confirmed by lenovo and does make perfect sense nvidia wants to keep the gtx naming for a lifetime gtx 9000 in 10 years? Then become amd nahhhh 11 is good xD
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#68
SolidWork
Fake. Nvidia already used the GT104 as a Tesla product in 2012? They would not re use GT104 for Turning.
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#69
T4C Fantasy
CPU & GPU DB Maintainer
SolidWorkFake. Nvidia already used the GT104 as a Tesla product in 2012? They would not re use GT104 for Turning.
Thats my thought, this listing is fake though
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#70
DeOdView
Like others had said... it's fake photoshop, more like MSPaint, that's can be spotted within second!

BTW: you don't know Vietnamese very well... do you???!!!.... ://Evillaughs/

Just saying! Or not saying!

{@}
^(^
Cheer!
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#71
cucker tarlson
And by the way, doesn't the name Turing fit the successor of Volta better?
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#72
ensabrenoir
yogurt_21the msrp is supposed to be same as the 1080 ti launch price at 699$ US.

Same CUDA core count, similar memory bandwidth yet most report fewer ROPs.

performance tests between the two should be interesting. It would be really funny to build up all that hype just to launch it at the same performance level as the 1080 ti at the same msrp...

like "we heard you like the 1080 ti, so we launched a card that costs the same and performs the same with a slight internal configuration difference, ie it's cheaper for us to make..."
...don't forget to throw in a 7% less power draw to justify its new and shiny existence.
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#73
xkm1948
Man did someone step on your man parts or what @RejZoR WTH is it with you and anything Nvidia? If you hate it so much why not just smash your 1080Ti and buy a Vega? Problem solved!

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#74
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
RejZoRIt's a weird naming scheme if it's real. Why would a major new version had minor number change lol. Makes no sense. GTX 2080 would make a lot of sense coming from GTX 1080, but GTX 1080 going to GTX 1180 seems like a GTX 1080 refresh in terms of "just another card from old series".
It has literally gone to the next set of hundreds since the first Fermis (400 series). So, where have you been the last 7 years or so? :rolleyes:
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#75
LiveOrDie
SlizzoImages are likely placeholder.

This Vietnamese shop has actually accurately leaked other product launches before they happen by placing things on their store. So it's possible this is legit. But on the specs, I don't know. We'll see.
Its unlikely they would be posting up images of a strix rather than reference, aftermarket always comes after.

This is what TPU should of posted!


www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia-gtx-1180-dodgy-pre-order
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