R0H1TWould you like to know the GCN version corresponding wrt each of these cards? If you don't here's a good site for starters ~ GPU Database

lexluthermiesterRight, and streamers are that niche group. I think we're agreeing, just from two different pages in the same chapter/book.

lexluthermiesterRight, and streamers are that niche group. I think we're agreeing, just from two different pages in the same chapter/book.

newtekie1Streamers aren't using a second card on a regular bases. Using a second card is a niche use case. It also doesn't make any sense when you really consider it, which is why almost no one does it.

notbGame streamers are a niche group. Streaming (we could call it "real-time encoding/decoding") is not a niche activity. Many people do it. They will still benefit from a hardware encoder/decoder.

lexluthermiesterFair point, which goes back to the point of buying a more powerful card if you're gaming and stream at the same time.

stimpy88Nasty, petty minded company, with an open contempt for its own customers.

R0H1TYes, so solid that even the youtube reviews are giving it a meh/miss at that price :rolleyes:
Also what about the up to 15% better efficiency via Turing NVENC?

notboffers a fairly basic encoding feature (lossless encoding)

SoNic67How dare they not give away for free their product?

lexluthermiesterRight? How dare they sell an inferior performing GPU for more money..

AssimilatorOr... we could just let the free market sort this out. IDK.

SoNic67How dare they not give away for free their product?
The same way you are working for free now I guess.

That's only for 4K encoding. The 1080p encoding is done the same.
Playing 4k video games is out of question on this card.

You are kidding, no? There is no lossless encoding in any commercial video cards. You are confusing with audio encoding.

GoldenXUnless you want to encode at 4k and high framerate, then you need a nice 2080Ti AND a dedicated encoding card that may be more expensive than the 2080Ti.

newtekie1No you don't. Even encoding 4K doesn't really affect gaming performance when done on the same card. Again, you are still acting like the encoding happens on the same part of the GPU as game rendering, it doesn't. There is dedicated hardware built into the GPU that will encode up to 8K with next to no gaming performance loss.

jabbadapffmpeg you can encode lossless video with nvenc.

notbI know VCE features correspond to GCN. But why should a consumer have to know this?
You're into hardware. You follow this things. A normal gamer shouldn't. For him R9 370X and R9 380X are cards from the same generation. That's why AMD named them like that, isn't it? :)

Of course Nvidia does the same thing, but they also have good documentation, so you can find the actual specs pretty easily.
I asked @GoldenX whether his card offers a fairly basic encoding feature (lossless encoding). All he could tell me is that it offers the same features as cards built on the same GCN...


Game streamers are a niche group. Streaming (we could call it "real-time encoding/decoding") is not a niche activity. Many people do it. They will still benefit from a hardware encoder/decoder.

GoldenXLossless video is useless unless you want a 50TB file.

SoNic67You are kidding, no? There is no lossless encoding in any commercial video cards. You are confusing with audio encoding.

GoldenX

There is always a performance loss, you are wasting a lot of bandwidth. Good luck with encoding while using RTX.

SoNic67When your source is game originated, and especially when you are posting it on the net, lossless is useless. You need a professional camera to have that quality of the input that loseless would matter. And even then, you can distribute that only on HDD.
This is ridiculous.

newtekie1Lower framerates doesn't tell us why. The NVENC still uses a pretty big portion of the CPU.