Caring1Maybe a picture showing a Motherboard with a fan is the wrong choice.

Good point.

Caring1Maybe a picture showing a Motherboard with a fan is the wrong choice.

If you get the news without reading... the picture in this case is irrelevant, it is showing how the situation is now... it's just fine.

The south bridge fan on my ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming X motherboard started making really obnoxious noises a few months ago and a few weeks ago wouldn't stop. Thankfully their ASRock Motherboard Utility allows you to set multiple RPM/temperature points. When the fan was making noise the utility read the RPM as zero. Even below 10% the RPM still reads as zero. The south bridge temperature is reported at 63C / 145F with only light usage. It was a $300+ motherboard and I absolutely expect quality on $300 motherboards. Later when I upgrade my disks I'll just buy a third party fan (never buy a replacement that is the exact same thing you're replacing!) and avoid dismantling my rig and be non-productive for who knows how many weeks. I have zero qualms paying extra for quality and this is my first ASRock product. Not as bad as the one and only time I got screwed by Asus back in ~2005/2006 when they couldn't get the RAID to work at the same time as every-single-USB port and replaced the $300 board twice with two used and clearly physically (and apparently sexually) abused board "replacements" that still had the same RAID / USB problem!

I had three Gigabyte motherboards in a row (754, AM3 and AM3+) and I never had a problem with any of them. The X570 Phantom Gaming X was the only board with the minimum specs that I needed was available because go figure, I could finally justify the budget for a rebuild literally the week before Christmas 2019. Frankly the passive cooling should be the default, nothing as of early 2021 yet exists to my understanding that can saturate a 16X PCI-Express 4 bus.

UskompufGood point.

Not really... it was more relevant the previous picture than this one... if you want to make it right, just put a red X over the fan in the previous picture.
The guy is just being pedantic.

Seems like the passively cooled PCH is more an afterthought, and Gigabyte is probably capitalizing on this opportunity to bring its (sometimes badly) outdated X570 boards in line with its newer B550 boards.

Using their newer B550 memory topology, 2.5Gb LAN, Wifi 6, and a 32MB BIOS chip, all of which many of the GB X570s still don't have. Some of the high end boards received v1.1/1.2 PCB revisions utilizing the better memory routing but not uniformly across the lineup I think, and as to connectivity and BIOS chip they still have what they originally came with.

The X570I Aorus Pro Wifi in particular seemed to have some issues with its 16MB chip.

And still no X570 mATX... How many years it will take for manufacturers to offer similar spectrum of AMD boards as the Intel-based ones?

JAB CreationsThe south bridge fan on my ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming X motherboard started making really obnoxious noises a few months ago and a few weeks ago wouldn't stop. Thankfully their ASRock Motherboard Utility allows you to set multiple RPM/temperature points. When the fan was making noise the utility read the RPM as zero. Even below 10% the RPM still reads as zero. The south bridge temperature is reported at 63C / 145F with only light usage. It was a $300+ motherboard and I absolutely expect quality on $300 motherboards. Later when I upgrade my disks I'll just buy a third party fan (never buy a replacement that is the exact same thing you're replacing!) and avoid dismantling my rig and be non-productive for who knows how many weeks. I have zero qualms paying extra for quality and this is my first ASRock product. Not as bad as the one and only time I got screwed by Asus back in ~2005/2006 when they couldn't get the RAID to work at the same time as every-single-USB port and replaced the $300 board twice with two used and clearly physically (and apparently sexually) abused board "replacements" that still had the same RAID / USB problem!

I had three Gigabyte motherboards in a row (754, AM3 and AM3+) and I never had a problem with any of them. The X570 Phantom Gaming X was the only board with the minimum specs that I needed was available because go figure, I could finally justify the budget for a rebuild literally the week before Christmas 2019. Frankly the passive cooling should be the default, nothing as of early 2021 yet exists to my understanding that can saturate a 16X PCI-Express 4 bus.

Have you updated to the latest BIOS? The most recent BIOS for my Asrock X570M Pro has enabled a passive mode for the chipset fan and tbh I never hear it now (Rest of my system is near silent)

DammeronAnd still no X570 mATX... How many years it will take for manufacturers to offer similar spectrum of AMD boards as the Intel-based ones?

The only mATX X570 board is the Asrock X570M Pro4, which I have in my system right now. Been a brillient board for me so far :) but agree, no idea why there are not more!

xela333Have you updated to the latest BIOS? The most recent BIOS for my Asrock X570M Pro has enabled a passive mode for the chipset fan and tbh I never hear it now (Rest of my system is near silent)

Ah, there is a positive though; I did update my bios a few months ago. If I had the resources to spare right now I would, I'll just wait until some other things are in place first though as it's highly disruptive to building my business.

DammeronAnd still no X570 mATX... How many years it will take for manufacturers to offer similar spectrum of AMD boards as the Intel-based ones?

mATX is being treated like an unwanted stepchild by most motherboard manufacturers. Even on Intel side of things there are too few good mATX offerings based on high end chipsets(Asus hasn't made Gene series of ROG board since Z270 if I remember correctly). With B550 there is 1 MSI board that suits high end AMD build on that form factor otherwise majority of mATX offerings are just underwhelming at best.

Good for those who are looking to build a new Zen3 rig.

The only thing I don't like about my Gigabyte X570 board is the chipset fan. So far it's ok. But I remember the last chipset fan I had (back in nforce2 days) made horrible noises before it died.

xela333The only mATX X570 board is the Asrock X570M Pro4, which I have in my system right now. Been a brillient board for me so far :) but agree, no idea why there are not more!

It is fine, but not good enough. No usb c front header, no wifi, mediocre VRM and it's cooling...

ChaitanyamATX is being treated like an unwanted stepchild by most motherboard manufacturers. Even on Intel side of things there are too few good mATX offerings based on high end chipsets(Asus hasn't made Gene series of ROG board since Z270 if I remember correctly). With B550 there is 1 MSI board that suits high end AMD build on that form factor otherwise majority of mATX offerings are just underwhelming at best.

I still don't get why mATX didn't become the mainstream. Most of the people will be fine even with ITX boards (they just need 1 slot for GPU and nothing more), a few of them would need an additional slot for eg. a sound card and again - mATX will be more than enough... And yet we're stuck with a "relic of a past" standard (when each function of a PC had to be added by an expension card - sound, LAN, GPU acceleration...) that just takes more space and giving no profit in return.

Lots of misinformation about the 570 chipset. It only consumes more when you attach 2 NVME ssd's on it, since the power delivery with the 570 is through the chipset. In a normal situation like 1 nvme ssd it does'nt require the fan to spinup at all.

The refresh is coming from TSMC obviously, which results in a bit lower power consumption.

DammeronAnd still no X570 mATX... How many years it will take for manufacturers to offer similar spectrum of AMD boards as the Intel-based ones?

Isn't that what B550 is for? The whole point of X570 is to have more bandwith for additional m.2 and/or (fast) expansion slots.

VaderIsn't that what B550 is for? The whole point of X570 is to have more bandwith for additional m.2 and/or (fast) expansion slots.

Surprise - B550 mATX boards are also at most avarage. Maybe MSI Mortar wi-fi is the exception, but still - only 5 usb A (and 2 of them are 2.0) and 1 usb C on the back...

"The X570 chipset consumed more power than previous chipsets and required a dedicated cooling fan on most boards which were often noisy or unreliable. AMD appears to be preparing an updated more efficient X570S silent chipset with passive cooling."

Noisy and unreliable according to who? And where has it been confirmed this is passive yet ?

Chipset fans are an abomination. I'm expecting my personal X570 fan to die long before the board is obsolete, and there are at least a dozen of them at the office, just ticking away like little bombs.

Chrispy_Chipset fans are an abomination. I'm expecting my personal X570 fan to die long before the board is obsolete, and there are at least a dozen of them at the office, just ticking away like little bombs.

I've yet to hear the fan on my board and its been a year and a half since i've been on x570. And for those that are on x570 but have no PCIe 4.0 devices it will never come on. I think for most they will upgrade before the chipset fan ever gets close to failure.

Mine comes on all the time - Two NVMe drives and a GPU.

I've even set the highest possible temperature allowed before it spins up in the BIOS but I believe the exhaust air from the GPU is enough that it warms up the chipset heatsink.

MakaveliI've yet to hear the fan on my board and its been a year and a half since i've been on x570. And for those that are on x570 but have no PCIe 4.0 devices it will never come on. I think for most they will upgrade before the chipset fan ever gets close to failure.

290X and no NVMe drives yet. See my earlier post above.

Chrispy_Mine comes on all the time - Two NVMe drives and a GPU.

I've even set the highest possible temperature allowed before it spins up in the BIOS but I believe the exhaust air from the GPU is enough that it warms up the chipset heatsink.

Your gpu is dumping air into the case and not blower style out side of the case?

Your signature is very busy which gpu is that the 5700XT?

JAB Creations290X and no NVMe drives yet. See my earlier post above.

That specific motherboard Asrock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 seems to be the issue a goggle search show a few hits of people complaining about the same issue.

MakaveliYour signature is very busy which gpu is that the 5700XT?

Sig's out of date, as always. It's a....

<checks GPU-Z>

It's a 2060S today!

Isnt there is a couple that I know x570 which are passively cooled? The overpriced Giga x570 aorus xtreme and Asus dark hero. But very well

The chipset fan was totally pointless. The heatsinks that went with them wouldnt pass muster for an intel atom. Multiple users have succesfully put passsive heatsinks ont heir motherboards and lowered temperatures from the 60-70c range to the 40c range, with NO FAN.

The fan was a totally pointless feature, why it was pushed can only be chalked up to human stupidity.

Or making them a unique selling point, I mean everyone already loves RGB right?

TheinsanegamerNThe chipset fan was totally pointless. The heatsinks that went with them wouldnt pass muster for an intel atom. Multiple users have succesfully put passsive heatsinks ont heir motherboards and lowered temperatures from the 60-70c range to the 40c range, with NO FAN.

The fan was a totally pointless feature, why it was pushed can only be chalked up to human stupidity.

When mine dies I'm just going to bin it and dump one of these on there using thermal epoxy:
www.amazon.com/uxcell-Black-Aluminum-Radiator-Heatsink/dp/B00RE6KB3Y

night.foxIsnt there is a couple that I know x570 which are passively cooled? The overpriced Giga x570 aorus xtreme and Asus dark hero. But very well

They were super-expensive boards though. I wasn't paying an extra $/£/€500 just to get fanless chipset cooling.
Oh yeah, you mentioned they were overpriced. I just didn't realise *how* overpriced they were until I just looked it up.