Monday, January 23rd 2023

AMD Product Pages Say Upcoming 7950X3D and 7800X3D "Unlocked for Overclocking"

The product pages of the upcoming AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D and Ryzen 7 7800X3D "Zen 4" processors went online, which say that the two chips are unlocked for overclocking. This normally implies that the processor has an unlocked base-clock multiplier, which makes it easy to overclock. The previous-generation Ryzen 7 5800X3D processors came with locked base-clock multipliers, making them complicated to overclock. Both the 16-core/32-thread 7950X3D and the 8-core/16-thread 7800X3D come with a TDP rating of 120 W, which for the 7950X3D is significantly lower than the 170 W that the 7950X is rated at. It's also worth noting that the T-junction max (TJmax) value is lower, at just 89°C, compared to 95°C of the 7950X and 7700X.

Slated for a February 2023 market release, the two chips introduce stacked 3D vertical cache technology (3DV cache). The 7800X3D comes with 64 MB of 3DV cache stacked on top of the 32 MB of on-die L3 cache, taking its L3 cache size to 96 MB, and total cache (L2+L3) to 104 MB. On the other hand, the 7950X3D and the 12-core/24-thread 7900X3D only come with the 3DV cache memory on one of the two "Zen 4" CCDs. The first CCD has 96 MB of L3 cache (including the 3DV cache), while the second CCD is a standard "Zen 4" CCD with just 32 MB of on-die L3 cache. For these chips, the L3 cache adds up to 128 MB, and total cache to 140 MB for the 7900X3D, and 144 MB for the 7950X3D.

Update Jan 24th: AMD updated their product pages to remove this field altogether. It looks like we'll have to wait a bit for AMD to finalize its specs.
Source: HXL (Twitter)
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65 Comments on AMD Product Pages Say Upcoming 7950X3D and 7800X3D "Unlocked for Overclocking"

#51
Haziza
Soon February why cant we get a release date?
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#52
Makaveli
Chrispy_Yeah, IIRC it's voltage-locked and multiplier locked, but not clock-locked, right. Perhaps AMD have removed the multiplier lock for the 7000-series X3D models?

I don't actually have any X3D chips, though I'll probably dump one in my home rig to give it a cheap boost rather than forking out for Zen4 or Raptor Lake.
BLCK overclocking which pushes your PCIE out of spec isn't something I would do on a 5800X3d.

I would stick with PBO2 tuner.
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#53
nexxusty
Chrispy_If this isn't a listing mistake, I'd put money on the overclocking only being applied to the non-vCache CCD

I was sure I saw a tweet from AMD official that the X3D Zen4 chips would still be locked...
7800x3d has one CCD.

So, no.
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#54
GhostRyder
I am glad they are doing it and letting people play with them. Will be interesting to see if they overclock a reasonable amount (Not holding my breath however)
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#55
Taisho
HazizaSoon February why cant we get a release date?
30th February confirmed.

I will never understand this OC hype for something that's already far past comfortable thermal levels. Asking to be milked by AMD.
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#56
Haziza
Taisho30th February confirmed.

I will never understand this OC hype for something that's already far past comfortable thermal levels. Asking to be milked by AMD.
Where is 30th confirmed? I like to buy the latest and greatest that's how i roll!
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#57
outpt
HazizaWhere is 30th confirmed? I like to buy the latest and greatest that's how i roll!
The 30th of February? Have they added a day or two
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#58
Haziza
outptThe 30th of February? Have they added a day or two
No idea, you tell me.. You never know with the US they use inches and other weird stuff!
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#59
las
I could not care less myself. CPU OC is pretty much pointless these days, in realworld stuff + gaming you gain like 1% or even lowers performance if you settle with an all-core OC instead of letting turbo handle 1-2 core boosts (which will go higher than a set all-core clock).

GPU OC matters way more. 5-10% perf gain is possible here.

And high speed / low latency memory. This can mean alot in specific workloads and games.

Looking forward to 7000 3D reviews, however I think Intel 14th Gen vs Ryzen 8000/80003D is going to be the real next gen battle and this is when I will upgrade, unless Ryzen 70003D really impresses.
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#60
Taisho
outptThe 30th of February? Have they added a day or two
Just making fun of the supposed release dates that never happen to be true.
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#62
Radxge
Meh, I do not care much about overclocking given that these should run at a high temps anyway at stock and don't intend to use more exotic cooling solution.
I am a bit more concerned/annoyed that it is now the end of January and AMD has still not yet announced the exact launch date and MSRP.

My trusty 9700K is showing its age and looking forward for an upgrade. :)
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#63
Punkenjoy
RadxgeMeh, I do not care much about overclocking given that these should run at a high temps anyway at stock and don't intend to use more exotic cooling solution.
I am a bit more concerned/annoyed that it is now the end of January and AMD has still not yet announced the exact launch date and MSRP.

My trusty 9700K is showing its age and looking forward for an upgrade. :)
Feb 30th confirmed.

But more seriously, i agree, that look like it might only happen in Q2 at this point.

I suspect that either the new scheduler is not ready and/or AMD want to sell more non X3D sku before they ship it.
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#64
Crylune
Good, means the Zen 5 X3D chips I'm actually interested in will be overclockable as well, and that they finally split the voltage rails for the L3 cache.

Zen 4 & Zen 4 X3D still completely unappealing to me, a 5800X3D owner.
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#65
Radxge
Just watched AMD announcement video again and while they claimed a February launch, I just noticed that they never mentioned the year. ;)
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