Tuesday, April 4th 2023

More AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Game Tests Leak Ahead of Launch

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A newest leak shows more game benchmarks for the Ryzen 7 7800X3D CPU that is scheduled to launch on April 6th. This time around, the results come from, what appears to be MSI's own internal testing results, claiming that optimizations can bring anywhere between 9 and 12 percent higher game performance compared to stock settings.

The list includes a total of eight games, tested at stock, EXPO DDR5-600, EXPO DDR5-6000 + High-Efficiency Mode, and EXPO DDR5-6000 + High-Efficiency Mode + Enhanced Mode Boost 3, showing gains of anywhere between 2 and 4 percent. The two modes are MSI profiles for Precision Boost Overdrive.
The test system included MSI's X670E Tomahawk motherboard, Kingston Fury Beast DDR5-6000 32 GB kit, as well as MSI's own Core Liquid S360 AiO cooler and MEG Ai1000P PSU. All games were apparently running at 1440p resolution and maximum quality settings.

The Ryzen 7 7800X3D officially launches on Thursday, April 6th, and we expect reviews to go live tomorrow. This is the third Ryzen 7000X3D series SKU, which could prove to be a quite popular CPU for gaming.
Sources: Chi11eddog Twitter, via Videocardz

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18 Comments on More AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Game Tests Leak Ahead of Launch

#1
Space Lynx
Astronaut
i just wish reviewers would also review these cpu's with a midrange gpu like the 6800 xt. reviewing it with a 4090 doesn't tell me if the cpu is going to be a good upgrade for me or not at 1440p.
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#2
DeathtoGnomes
with only 9-12% increase, I cant see the justification for the extra power draw, not that its that much more. post the reviews NAU.
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#3
Space Lynx
Astronaut
i wouldn't be surprised if ryzen 8000 series jumps to 3nm node since Apple is selling more and more of its factory allocated time due to lackluster sales.

if that is the case, then ryzen 8800x3d is going to decimate everything in existence.
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#4
DeathtoGnomes
Space Lynxi wouldn't be surprised if ryzen 8000 series jumps to 3nm node since Apple is selling more and more of its factory allocated time due to lackluster sales.

if that is the case, then ryzen 8800x3d is going to decimate everything in existence.
Thats speculating too far ahead for my tastes, its a given that naturally the nextgen chips will be better
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#5
Space Lynx
Astronaut
DeathtoGnomesThats speculating too far ahead for my tastes, its a given that naturally the nextgen chips will be better
yeah, but next gen is currently meant to be only 5nm node i think. if they move ahead to 3nm, i think it will be like 30% gains instead of just 10% check box that seems to be standard.
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#6
rv8000
Space Lynxi just wish reviewers would also review these cpu's with a midrange gpu like the 6800 xt. reviewing it with a 4090 doesn't tell me if the cpu is going to be a good upgrade for me or not at 1440p.
Unless you actively know you’re CPU limited, testing midrange options, while not entirely useless, is going to be less useful as you will sooner run into GPU limitations; probably not a good use of a reviewers time, at least upon release of new CPUs.

Testing with the fastest GPU available is always the best case or representation of whether or not there are going to be tangible upgrades on the cpu side.
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#7
Space Lynx
Astronaut
rv8000Unless you actively know you’re CPU limited, testing midrange options, while not entirely useless, is going to be less useful as you will sooner run into GPU limitations; probably not a good use of a reviewers time, at least upon release of new CPUs.

Testing with the fastest GPU available is always the best case or representation of whether or not there are going to be tangible upgrades on the cpu side.
I guess I don't understand, because I know for a fact my 13600k gave my 6800 xt more frames in games than my current 5600 does (and I regret selling it) but my ryzen 5600 doesn't show me cpu limited in those same games... so I don't really get it?
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#8
Ando
Space LynxI guess I don't understand, because I know for a fact my 13600k gave my 6800 xt more frames in games than my current 5600 does (and I regret selling it) but my ryzen 5600 doesn't show me cpu limited in those same games... so I don't really get it?
Lower texture settings to minimum and see what framerate you get, and then compare that with high texture settings. The greater the difference in framerate, the less of a need you'd have for a CPU upgrade.
"Bottlenecking" is an awkward topic because it can vary from game to game, and even can vary in certain parts of a game (some areas in a game can be more CPU intensive). Some games just have hard engine limits that you won't ever pass no matter how much you upgrade.
Also you can't go off of CPU utilization on 6+ core CPU's, since no game actually fully utilizes 6+ cores yet. Plenty of games show my 11700K at <40% utilization, but I'm quite certain that at 1080p I'd see a larger upgrade from a new CPU than a new GPU.
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#9
kondamin
Space Lynxi wouldn't be surprised if ryzen 8000 series jumps to 3nm node since Apple is selling more and more of its factory allocated time due to lackluster sales.

if that is the case, then ryzen 8800x3d is going to decimate everything in existence.
It won’t, 3nm is broken.
and amd has no motivation at all to push harder as they are performance competitive with intel but are making money hand over fist.
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#10
Jism
Space Lynxi just wish reviewers would also review these cpu's with a midrange gpu like the 6800 xt. reviewing it with a 4090 doesn't tell me if the cpu is going to be a good upgrade for me or not at 1440p.
Whats wrong with the fastest GPU as a baseline?
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#11
Minus Infinity
kondaminIt won’t, 3nm is broken.
and amd has no motivation at all to push harder as they are performance competitive with intel but are making money hand over fist.
Zen 5 is apparently being readied with N4P and N3E designs. AMD is most likely to use N4P on desktop, but if TSMC can get N3E ready in time, they use that node for at least the high end. N3B is the one most are avoiding, it brings only minor improvements in density and power and costs a bomb. N4P is highly refined and much cheaper. There's even a N4X IIRC on the roadmap, that brings small improvements across the board over N4P.
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#12
Bwaze
Space Lynxi wouldn't be surprised if ryzen 8000 series jumps to 3nm node since Apple is selling more and more of its factory allocated time due to lackluster sales.

if that is the case, then ryzen 8800x3d is going to decimate everything in existence.
Yeah, but AMD also lowered it's orders due to lower sales. Why would they jump to most expensive process at this moment of unreliable markets?

Also, new cutting edge nodes usually aren't ready for high power desktop use in it's first iteration - they focus on low power, high efficiency first! So I think it isn't even an option.
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#13
chowow
pass on 7000 gen tiny little performance over 5000
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#14
Daven
Space Lynxi just wish reviewers would also review these cpu's with a midrange gpu like the 6800 xt. reviewing it with a 4090 doesn't tell me if the cpu is going to be a good upgrade for me or not at 1440p.
You want reviewers to benchmark YOUR system build and not the new product being released. Become ruler of the world one day and you might get your wish.
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#15
Godrilla
DeathtoGnomeswith only 9-12% increase, I cant see the justification for the extra power draw, not that its that much more. post the reviews NAU.
that delta was from stock with expo disabled. Does anyone actually disable Expo? I guess the delta wouldn't be click bait worthy!
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#16
SOAREVERSOR
rv8000Unless you actively know you’re CPU limited, testing midrange options, while not entirely useless, is going to be less useful as you will sooner run into GPU limitations; probably not a good use of a reviewers time, at least upon release of new CPUs.

Testing with the fastest GPU available is always the best case or representation of whether or not there are going to be tangible upgrades on the cpu side.
Pretty much. For gaming, you're always GPU limited for the most part. CPU limitations show up in other areas.
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#17
Space Lynx
Astronaut
DavenYou want reviewers to benchmark YOUR system build and not the new product being released. Become ruler of the world one day and you might get your wish.
well Hardware Unboxed does do this already, as another post pointed out to me in another thread. Thanks, bye. :)
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#18
THU31
Space Lynxi just wish reviewers would also review these cpu's with a midrange gpu like the 6800 xt. reviewing it with a 4090 doesn't tell me if the cpu is going to be a good upgrade for me or not at 1440p.
You don't need a review for that. All you need to do is look at your GPU utilization without a capped framerate. If it's above 90%, you don't need a faster CPU.
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