wtf how is it this cheap lmao

Space Lynxwtf how is it this cheap lmao

Demand of this is pretty bad.
It kind of wierd step child for gamers, since it bascially acts as a 6-core in games, and in other workloads it is a lower clocked 7900X. On top of that there is the scheduling issue.
It really wasn't attractive at all given it launced at a price higher than the 14700k which has 8 P-cores. And this was before people realized whats going on with Raptor Lake.

ZubasaDemand of this is pretty bad.
It kind of wierd step child for gamers, since it bascially acts as a 6-core in games, and in other workloads it is a lower clocked 7900X. On top of that there is the scheduling issue.
It really wan't attractive at all given it launced at a price higher than the 14700k which has 8 P-cores. And this was before people realized whats going on with Raptor Lake.

It's as fast as the i9-13900K at gaming, so there's that.

ZubasaDemand of this is pretty bad.
It kind of wierd step child for gamers, since it bascially acts as a 6-core in games, and in other workloads it is a lower clocked 7900X. On top of that there is the scheduling issue.
It really wan't attractive at all given it launced at a price higher than the 14700k which has 8 P-cores. And this was before people realized whats going on with Raptor Lake.

makes sense I guess, someone told me Project Lasso fixes all of these issues, just requires some work

I guess 7800x3d still makes more sense for someone like me though, as I just went to have plug n play experience for gaming, and really have no need for the extra cores. that being said, this is an incredible price still

The prices are great. I've been using Intel CPUs for 17 years now since my first build but I'm going with Ryzen on my new build later this year. There's just no reason not too imo.

Space Lynxmakes sense I guess, someone told me Project Lasso fixes all of these issues, just requires some work

I guess 7800x3d still makes more sense for someone like me though, as I just went to have plug n play experience for gaming, and really have no need for the extra cores. that being said, this is an incredible price still

It does, this is what I am doing with the 12700k.
Without it my steam downloads will be stuck at around 600Mbps instead of 1.6Gbps or so because the 4 E-cores are choking while the P-cores are AFK.
The problem is with things like kernel-level anti-cheats that are common in Esports titles these days.

btarunrIt's as fast as the i9-13900K at gaming, so there's that.

And gets destroyed in multi-core performance, even after the baseline profile.
The whole point of getting this over the 7800X3D is for multi-core, and the 7800X3D do not have to deal with scheduling issues.

64KThe prices are great. I've been using Intel CPUs for 17 years now since my first build but I'm going with Ryzen on my new build later this year. There's just no reason not too imo.

Going with the 9900x3d?

Space LynxGoing with the 9900x3d?

I haven't decided for certain yet but I'm leaning towards the 7900X3D for my gaming rig. That should give me more than enough performance for 4 to 5 years. I may even break my steadfast rule against going 4K and pick up a RTX 5090 late this year if they turn out as good as I think they will be. :D

64KI haven't decided for certain yet but I'm leaning towards the 7900X3D for my gaming rig. That should give me more than enough performance for 4 to 5 years. I may even break my steadfast rule against going 4K and pick up a RTX 5090 late this year if they turn out as good as I think they will be. :D

I think you should do 9900X3D and RTX 5090 if you can afford it. That would be a killer rig that would last a decade or more, especially with frame gen being a thing now.

Space Lynxwtf how is it this cheap lmao

Yeah $789 in Australia, no discounts, must be selling like hot cakes and supply is limited.

WTaF AMD. Pretends they are global and only cares about US.

Minus InfinityYeah $789 in Australia, no discounts, must be selling like hot cakes and supply is limited.

WTaF AMD. Pretends they are global and only cares about US.

Well, if you look at the current exchange rate 789 AUD is equal to 511 USD. Also does the price include your 10% VAT?

That's one of the things that gets overlooked sometimes about US prices. We pay more than the advertised price. For example the 7900X3D lists on Amazon for $400 but when I include Sales Tax for my area (9.25%) the price I actually pay is $437.

Even with all of that you guys in Australia just seemed to get ripped off on pricing for some reason.

64KWell, if you look at the current exchange rate 789 AUD is equal to 511 USD. Also does the price include your 10% VAT?

That's one of the things that gets overlooked sometimes about US prices. We pay more than the advertised price. For example the 7900X3D lists on Amazon for $400 but when I include Sales Tax for my area (9.25%) the price I actually pay is $437.

Even with all of that you guys in Australia just seemed to get ripped off on pricing for some reason.

If it's anything like Japan, the local distributors are taking a hefty margin to handle not only importing but the overhead of local warranty and support. Not that I agree with the final pricing...

7800x3d is $216 at Microcenter, you add any mobo/ram you want to your cart, then add the 7800x3d. Just ordered mine, going to return the 12600kf since I am within return window. this is an absolutely incredible deal I can not pass on.

only way to get this price is in-person at Microcenter, and only way to get the $216 price is if you buy all 3 items as a bundle.

I have no fucking idea how Microcenter pulls off these prices. holy shit, this is incredible.

Better discount the overpriced Radeon RX 7900 XTX that is towards a grand!
It's obvious that these prices are because of the cartel, and they have no connection with the reality. It's someone's poor decision when they woke up in a crazy mood one morning. :kookoo:

ARFBetter discount the overpriced Radeon RX 7900 XTX that is towards a grand!
It's obvious that these prices are because of the cartel, and they have no connection with the reality. It's someone's poor decision when they woke up in a crazy mood one morning. :kookoo:

I got a 7900 XT in July 2023 for $705, and it overclocks to give me stock XTX performance... I mean $705 for a card that is only 30 fps slower in raster games than a 4090 (not all games obviously, but quite a few at 1440p its only around 30 fps which isn't much)... seems like a good deal to me. You like to complain a lot eh?

Space LynxYou like to complain a lot eh?

No, you like to attack a lot eh?

Space LynxI got a 7900 XT in July 2023 for $705

Still over priced. There is a big difference between the above mentioned Ryzen 7 7800X3D for only 216, and this overpriced offer of insane 705.
By same logic, RX 7900 XT must cost 499.

ARFStill over priced. There is a big difference between the above mentioned Ryzen 7 7800X3D for only 216, and this overpriced offer of insane 705.
By same logic, RX 7900 XT must cost 499.

I don't think it's overpriced at all at $705. Gas doesn't cost 25 cents a gallon like it did when my Dad was younger either, inflation is part of life.

I have had my experience with AMD and my mouth stays dry as heck.

TheDeeGeeI have had my experience with AMD and my mouth stays dry as heck.

I had 0 issues with my 5600x3d and 7900 xt combo, was solid as heck. I find that if you don't run into issues within the first two weeks you will probably be fine, and if you do run into issues within first two weeks you simply refund and go with something else.

Space LynxI don't think it's overpriced at all at $705. Gas doesn't cost 25 cents a gallon like it did when my Dad was younger either, inflation is part of life.

There is no inflation in the graphics cards market, only higher greed and higher profit margins.
FYI, GF 8800 Ultra was 830$ back in May 2007.


www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-8800-ultra.c195

ARFThere is no inflation in the graphics cards market, only higher greed and higher profit margins.
FYI, GF 8800 Ultra was 830$ back in May 2007.


www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-8800-ultra.c195

I'm not sure what you are saying. There is inflation in everything. In 2007 $829 is equivalent to $1,291 today when accounting for inflation.

64KI'm not sure what you are saying. There is inflation in everything. In 2007 $829 is equivalent to $1,291 today when accounting for inflation.

This is not true.
Back in 2007, the average salary in my country was the equivalent of 276$, that means one could buy 8800 Ultra with 3.6 average salaries.
Today, the average salary in my country is the equivalent of 1278$, this means one could buy a graphics card at $1291 with only one salary and a bit more.

There are many production areas in which because of process optimisations and using cheaper materials, the costs of the goods end lower than in the past.

the amount of horsepower we get for $705 today is incredible imo. I have no regrets anyway. meh

64KI haven't decided for certain yet but I'm leaning towards the 7900X3D for my gaming rig. That should give me more than enough performance for 4 to 5 years. I may even break my steadfast rule against going 4K and pick up a RTX 5090 late this year if they turn out as good as I think they will be. :D

I wouldn't place any huge bets on the RTX 5090. Going by credible rumors, nVidia will once again leverage a custom 5nm process for the consumer RTX 5000 series. Sure, there will probably be some optimizations but it won't be a huge step forward compared to their current custom 5nm (N4) process. It is definitely disappointing that they will not switch to a 3nm process after over two years but also understandable that they are going all-in on 3nm with AI exclusively.

Anyway, since the GPUs will be made on the same(-ish) node as the RTX 4000 series, all improvements in terms of performance and efficiency will have to come from the new architecture and there is only so much you can do with that. I would temper expectations and expect a rather moderate +30% over the RTX 4090.

I also wouldn't expect any fancy new features. They have surprised us with some nice innovative stuff like RTX Remix in previous gens but I don't see that happening again as long as all of their top talent is very busy with AI/datacenter. Let's be blunt here. nVidia is going to more or less half-ass the RTX 5000 series because it is not at all their priority at the moment. AI datacenter keeps on exploding exponentially and it is only logical and natural that nVidia have all hands on deck and are leveraging the best production node (3nm) for AI exclusively. Gaming is forced to take a backseat for now.

Finally, I wouldn't ever get the 7900X3D. You get the worst of the X3D CPUs with that model because it is an all around compromise on all fronts. You either get the 7800X3D (gaming focus) or the 7950X3D if you really have a use case for the additional cores (like rendering, content creation or whatever). The 7900X3D is mid garbage. Personally, I do not like the X3D CPUs above the 7800X3D at all because of the requirement to run Xbox Game Bar (ewww) and to activate the abysmal 'Game Mode' in Windows. Those reqs are unacceptable to me.
Besides, if anyone is waiting until later this year then I would definitely wait an additional two or three months and get the 9800X3D which should be introduced at CES in January 2025 and available in/by March or so.

ARFThis is not true.
Back in 2007, the average salary in my country was the equivalent of 276$, that means one could buy 8800 Ultra with 3.6 average salaries.
Today, the average salary in my country is the equivalent of 1278$, this means one could buy a graphics card at $1291 with only one salary and a bit more.

There are many production areas in which because of process optimisations and using cheaper materials, the costs of the goods end lower than in the past.

Your Standard of Living has obviously gone up quite a bit. That's a good thing for you but I am talking about the $829 USD you posted and I used an inflation calculator provided by the US government to translate that $829 in today's buying power. There will always be inflation as long as we use Fiat Currency.

RogueSixI wouldn't place any huge bets on the RTX 5090. Going by credible rumors, nVidia will once again leverage a custom 5nm process for the consumer RTX 5000 series. Sure, there will probably be some optimizations but it won't be a huge step forward compared to their current custom 5nm (N4) process. It is definitely disappointing that they will not switch to a 3nm process after over two years but also understandable that they are going all-in on 3nm with AI exclusively.

Anyway, since the GPUs will be made on the same(-ish) node as the RTX 4000 series, all improvements in terms of performance and efficiency will have to come from the new architecture and there is only so much you can do with that. I would temper expectations and expect a rather moderate +30% over the RTX 4090.

I also wouldn't expect any fancy new features. They have surprised us with some nice innovative stuff like RTX Remix in previous gens but I don't see that happening again as long as all of their top talent is very busy with AI/datacenter. Let's be blunt here. nVidia is going to more or less half-ass the RTX 5000 series because it is not at all their priority at the moment. AI datacenter keeps on exploding exponentially and it is only logical and natural that nVidia have all hands on deck and are leveraging the best production node (3nm) for AI exclusively. Gaming is forced to take a backseat for now.

Finally, I wouldn't ever get the 7900X3D. You get the worst of the X3D CPUs with that model because it is an all around compromise on all fronts. You either get the 7800X3D (gaming focus) or the 7950X3D if you really have a use case for the additional cores (like rendering, content creation or whatever). The 7900X3D is mid garbage. Personally, I do not like the X3D CPUs above the 7800X3D at all because of the requirement to run Xbox Game Bar (ewww) and to activate the abysmal 'Game Mode' in Windows. Those reqs are unacceptable to me.
Besides, if anyone is waiting until later this year then I would definitely wait an additional two or three months and get the 9800X3D which should be introduced at CES in January 2025 and available in/by March or so.

Thanks for the info. As you can see I'm not well informed about AMD CPUs right now. I will look into the 7800X3D. You probably saved me from spending more than I needed to.