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AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU Accounts for Almost 90% of "Zen 5" Sales, Rest of 9000 Series in Trouble

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Based on the MindFactory sales data for January 2025, we have seen AMD push a significant share of sales and revenue at the German PC hardware store. However, an interesting observation lies in the details. AMD's Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU was the best-selling SKU at 8,390 units sold. An entire AM5 platform recorded sales of 18,410 units, which puts the eight-core X3D SKU on the top, with 46% of consumers on the AM5 platform going with this CPU. The rest of the AMD Ryzen 9000 series performed poorly, with other SKUs reaching only up to 3% of AM5 socket sales. This means that out of 100% "Zen 5" units sold, the leading Ryzen 7 9800X3D SKU captured 87% of sales. The AMD Ryzen 9000 series is performing exceptionally only due to its only available AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D SKU selling 46% of the AM5 volume.

Among standard Ryzen 9000 series SKUs, the Ryzen 7 9700X achieved 640 units in sales, while the Ryzen 5 9600X, Ryzen 9 9950X, and Ryzen 9 9900X recorded 250, 230, and 180 units respectively. These figures suggest significantly lower market penetration for non-X3D variants in the retail channel. The data points to a clear market preference for gaming-optimized processors, indicating AMD's strategic focus on X3D variants—despite their higher manufacturing costs and retail premiums—is likely to continue. While MindFactory's sales data represents just one retailer in the German market, the overwhelming consumer preference for the 9800X3D over standard Zen 5 SKUs signals that consumers are ready to pay a premium for more performance and that the X3D effect reflects positively on the sales.

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30 Comments on AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU Accounts for Almost 90% of "Zen 5" Sales, Rest of 9000 Series in Trouble

Chaitanya

Not really surprising.

Chomiq

They're also one of the only reliable sources of 9800X3D in EU right now at MSRP.

Frick

Fishfaced Nincompoop

ChaitanyaNot really surprising.

Very much not surprising.

Ryzen 7600 €193 - 9600X €277
7700 (tray) €273 - 9700X €372
7900X €408 - 9900X €474

kondamin

it’s a disappointing generation from both Intel and amd
Both should look in to making a core that targets high clocks

Legacy-ZA

As I said before? AMD really shouldn't be releasing anything but X3D CPU's at this point, they are great CPU's, the rest is just a waste of sand. People want an all-round solution that kicks ass, why is this so hard to understand?

Calmmo

Makes sense, zen5 was pretty bad. 3d cache layout changes being the only real improvement..

Assimilator

Most of the 9000-series is just more expensive higher-power-limit 7000-series, so there's really no reason for anyone to pony up for the former if buying AM5 for the first time. Plus a lot of people jumped on the AM5 train when it arrived and are perfectly happy with their 7000-series CPUs, so no reason for them to "upgrade" to 9000-series. I suspect the 9800X3D sales are mostly new AM5 buyers.

Things will improve for 9000-series overall once 7000-series stock dries up.

Shou Miko

As good as the 9800X3D is not gonna spend like £491 on it since my AMD Ryzen 7 7700 non-x does the job for me really great and I do not want to waste money just waiting on gaming performance on the RX 9070 XT to see if I should just buy a RX 7900 XTX instead for 1440p gaming.

Bomby569

seems like way too much money for a CPU to be selling like this, just it seems to me way to much money for the GPU's, but hey if everyone is full of cash I'm just poor and should shut up. But no one can really complain about prices.

#10

Evrsr

Legacy-ZAAs I said before? AMD really shouldn't be releasing anything but X3D CPU's at this point, they are great CPU's, the rest is just a waste of sand. People want an all-round solution that kicks ass, why is this so hard to understand?

Zen 5 is a AVX512 core, which is what no one really wants in this space. Especially on 6-8 core parts, where you are likely not needing that.

If it was designed as an overall improvement or, heck, even was priced at Zen 4 levels, it would sell well enough.

The fact that the IOD is the same is also a huge drag for these chips.

#11

_roman_

I would have upgraded from the 7600x to the 9600X. The resale value is poor and the purchase value is poor. I would have switched but not for any price. I just have a placeholder cpu. Also a downgrade is a joke as those processors have poor buy and resell values on the second hand market. I looked for months on the 7500F and gave up.

I do need that AVX512 for my software. The only real feature for the ryzen 9000

Mindfactory could sell much more if they were not *** (very bad word) and only sell to german shipping addresses. other germany based shop sell to neighbour countries. I do not want to pay a dubious service to temporarily buy a german shipment address.

I think those 9800x3d sales are only from those high end gamers. For computing tasks I would buy a 16 core ryzen processor with or without 3d cache.
nvidia 4080 super or similar paired with a 500 € asus mainboard with the best "gaming cpu" according to harwareluxx.de / computerbase.de / techpowerup / pcgameshardware.de to name a few sites.

#12

Chrispy_

This is what a fumbled launch does.

The 9950X is better than the 7950X, and the 9700X is better than the 7700X - both at very similar prices. The problem is that the 7000-series got good launch reviews, whilst the 9000-series got bad launch reviews.

It doesn't matter that the 9000-series has newer, excellent reviews after the BIOS updates and windows patches, Search engines favour the more popular launch-day reviews which were fumbled by AMD.

#13

Assimilator

EvrsrThe fact that the IOD is the same is also a huge drag for these chips.

Yeah - focusing on AVX-512 after Intel basically killed it off in the consumer space, while leaving the known crappy Zen 4 IOD as-is and allowing ARL to one-up AMD on connectivity, was a perplexing pair of choices for me. Zen 6's IOD needs to be massively improved if AMD wants to keep the momentum going.

#14

dismuter

Now that the X3D have zero downsides because they put the V-Cache beneath the compute die, why have 2 cheaper versions of the 8-core CPU, namely 9700 and 9700X?
They could have just made 9700 and 9800X with the X implying additional V-Cache, no need for the "3D" in the suffix anymore.
I would also argue that the 12-core X3D SKU, and the non-X3D 16-core SKU are pointless.
So the lineup could have been simplified to:
9600, 9600X, 9700, 9800X, 9900, 9950X
(with the X implying V-Cache)

#15

Assimilator

Chrispy_The problem is that the 7000-series got good launch reviews, whilst the 9000-series got bad launch reviews.

I wouldn't say "bad" for the latter, more "middling".

Chrispy_Search engines favour the more popular launch-day reviews

It's stupid that this is the case, though. A review is a temporally contextual piece of information, therefore priority should be given to the most recent, not the most visited.

#16

TSiAhmat

dismuterNow that the X3D have zero downsides because they put the V-Cache beneath the compute die, why have 2 cheaper versions of the 8-core CPU, namely 9700 and 9700X?
They could have just made 9700 and 9800X with the X implying additional V-Cache, no need for the "3D" in the suffix anymore.
I would also argue that the 12-core X3D SKU, and the non-X3D 16-core SKU are pointless.
So the lineup could have been simplified to:
9600, 9600X, 9700, 9800X, 9900, 9950X
(with the X implying V-Cache)

because the 3D name is already established, it alone sells cpus.

If you remove it many customers would go:

"11800X? when is the 3D Version coming out?"

I think it would be a poor choice to give that name up.

#17

Scircura

From www.techpowerup.com/331780/techpowerup-interviews-david-mcafee-gm-of-client-channel-business-on-the-state-of-amd-ryzen-and-radeon:

TechPowerUp: Right now, the volumes are heavily skewed toward X3D.

David McAfee: Not really. You'd be surprised. On a global scale, the split between AM4 and AM5 is not far off from 50/50. Different markets have different preferences. North America and Western Europe skew toward higher-end AM5 builds.

The two statements don't necessarily contradict: global sales could be 50% AM4, 45% 9800X3D, 5% AM5-other. But I suspect MindFactory's sales aren't representative of the whole market.

#18

KillSwitx

With Intel not really hitting the mark on the CPU side, really brought a lot of buyers to opt for 9800x3D instead of Intel systems.
Not releasing any other x3D cpu's, also increased the scope of sales towards the 9800x3D.

All in all for everyone looking for raw performance for gaming, i guess that was a catalyst for 9800x3D sales boom vs any other zen5 cpu's.

#19

adilazimdegilx

Main reason for this is mediocre generational uplift between non3d 7000 and 9000 series while 9000 series CPUs are quite a bit more expensive. There is no reason for 7000 series owners to upgrade. And for new AM5 users, unless you absolutely want the best of the best 7000 series offer much better price/performance. It also makes more sense to buy 7500f-7600 and wait until until next generation if you have low budget now (expecting much better gen to gen uplift). They are just as capable as 9600, support exact same things and cheaper.

#20

dismuter

TSiAhmatbecause the 3D name is already established, it alone sells cpus.

If you remove it many customers would go:

"11800X? when is the 3D Version coming out?"

I think it would be a poor choice to give that name up.

I'm sure they'd figure it out, unless they stop buying CPUs forever because of the missing "3D".
Regardless, it wasn't my main point, it was about simplifying the line-up.

#21

Chrispy_

AssimilatorIt's stupid that this is the case, though. A review is a temporally contextual piece of information, therefore priority should be given to the most recent, not the most visited.

I don't make the SEO rules, that's just how it is.
AMD know this - so rushing out a half-baked launch is extra dumb and 100% on them.

#22

friocasa

adilazimdegilxMain reason for this is mediocre generational uplift between non3d 7000 and 9000 series while 9000 series CPUs are quite a bit more expensive. There is no reason for 7000 series owners to upgrade. And for new AM5 users, unless you absolutely want the best of the best 7000 series offer much better price/performance. It also makes more sense to buy 7500f-7600 and wait until until next generation if you have low budget now (expecting much better gen to gen uplift). They are just as capable as 9600, support exact same things and cheaper.

I'll go further and say that, unless you spend a lot to get the best, there's no reason to even upgrade from AM4 to AM5

If someone has a AM4 computer, they can just buy a 5700X/3D on AliExpress, the same way they would buy a 7400/7500F, and call it a day

Then consider AM5 if the next generation provides a noticeable uplift, if not, just wait to AM6

#23

gridracedriver

trouble? what are you saying?
very good for AMD, 9800x3d It is the processor with the highest profit margins!!!

#24

windwhirl

kondaminBoth should look in to making a core that targets high clocks

Intel says they don't want a repeat of Pentium 4

#25

katzi

You can't even get a 9800X3D at MSRP in New Zealand.

The it's Unobtaintium. It's cheaper to buy a Threadripper or Xeon from some retailers. Just unreal.

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