newconroerMaybe, but it won't drive the 280 price down.

Nvidia can easily turn around and bitch slap ATi with another GX2 card, sadly enough.

No matter how far ATi has come in the last generation, they're still not going to top Nvidia until they change their architecture, simple as that.

I think ati will have the top card for a bit here. I don't think 2 gtx 280's can fit into a single card, it's going to be a die shrink before they can do that. Ati is now effectively one step ahead of nvidia. And no, people who talk about price/performance are not whining b/c they don't have money, they are just not foolish enough to overpay. There is always new technology around the corner, what's the best now will be beaten in a few months. Also there is the factor of what is actually needed. So why pay so much more just to have the top card right now, when the extra performance is practically useless and small atm and another better, cheaper card is around the corner? Price/performance=intelligent buying.

farlex85I think ati will have the top card for a bit here. I don't think 2 gtx 280's can fit into a single card, it's going to be a die shrink before they can do that. Ati is now effectively one step ahead of nvidia. And no, people who talk about price/performance are not whining b/c they don't have money, they are just not foolish enough to overpay. There is always new technology around the corner, what's the best now will be beaten in a few months. Also there is the factor of what is actually needed. So why pay so much more just to have the top card right now, when the extra performance is practically useless and small atm and another better, cheaper card is around the corner? Price/performance=intelligent buying.

This is really starting to get hilarious, I mean come on. Do some ppl really think NV is going to stick 2 200W monsters on one card & charge $1000-1200 for it...just to beat a $500 card. That would be shooting themselves in the foot :rolleyes: The 4870x2 is what it is. Some ppl just can't accept it.

Currently, GTX280 is nVidia's top card: i think we can all agree on that.

The soon to be released R700 will be ATI's top card: we can all agree on that as well, i believe.


Apparently, R700 will beat GTX280 and, not only that, but 2*R700 card will come very close to 3*GTX280.


IMHO, either nVidia comes up with a new card, with a much smaller die size, below 400mm squared (up to 300 mm squared would be ideal), so that it too can make a GTX(insert number here)x2 (unlikely, for the near future) or it has lost THIS round of cards.
The 55nm version of GTX280 will improve (die size, performance (?) and possibly temps too) but it won't be enough to dethrone R700, i believe.

nVidia has won the last 2 or 3 rounds of cards, if i'm not mistaken but, apparently, has lost this one.


I'm sure that, in 6 to 8 months time, both companies will have come up with newer cards and we will see yet another round of this "Battle of the Giants".

Money for me is not a problem, but few months ago when I spent a 690 $ on Geforce 8800 GTX later on nvidia Released Geforce 8800 GT at half price ?! This give a question why did they do this thing ?! It's all because they know that's they get owned BY ATI with it's Price/Performance segment.

I'm one of nvidia Fans far From Riva TNT => TNT2 => Geforce 3200 => Geforce 4200 => Geforce FX = Geforce 7300 => Geforce 8800 GTX => ( Converted TO ATI ) 4870x2 will take place here sorry Nvidia But I think you need to review your pricing again and I will the first one to buy your cards again.

handydaggerMoney for me is not a problem, but few months ago when I spent a 690 $ on Geforce 8800 GTX later on nvidia Released Geforce 8800 GT at half price ?! This give a question why did they do this thing ?! It's all because they know that's they get owned BY ATI with it's Price/Performance segment.

I'm one of nvidia Fans far From Riva TNT => TNT2 => Geforce 3200 => Geforce 4200 => Geforce FX = Geforce 7300 => Geforce 8800 GTX => ( Converted TO ATI ) 4870x2 will take place here sorry Nvidia But I think you need to review your pricing again and I will the first one to buy your cards again.

Hehe but they all ready made a load of you. Which is one reason i will not buy a NV even if i could afford it just silly to burn money like that.

AsRockHehe but they all ready made a load of you. Which is one reason i will not buy a NV even if i could afford it just silly to burn money like that.

Which is why the last 5 cards I've bought has been ATi, NV isn't getting any more of my cash on high-end cards until they release an exceptionally priced one - not some horrible flop that gets replaced in a few months.

newconroerWho cares about people who sit around bitching about 'price/performance' as an excuse because they cannot afford the more expensive cards?


I stick by what I said. Cheap, expensive, whatever. Until ATi's architecture changes, they'll always be one step behind Nvidia.

Ahem, Nvidia was Watching this round with the 4870 and DDR5, now nvidia is implementing DDR5 themselves, so i say Nvidia isnt a step ahead, they just observe the competitions numbers and sandbag.:nutkick:

Sweet card, looks like it would fit a water block very nicely unlike what Nv is doing to the 9800gx2... EOL already.... I was considering getting myself one since I seen it on sale but they EOL'd it = so much for working on its drivers and future game compatibility....

MegastyWhich is why the last 5 cards I've bought has been ATi, NV isn't getting any more of my cash on high-end cards until they release an exceptionally priced one - not some horrible flop that gets replaced in a few months.

months lol ? though they had it down 2 6 weeks or less now ?. Maybe it's me HA.

I'm surly looking forward when a friend getting one see how it does.. I think i be better of waiting till the R800 is out :). it's not all that long away really.

GTX 280+ is already coming out, why buy a 280-? I dont get there strategy at all. They release a card then a month or two later they release a + or revision of it thats alot better.

ShadowFoldGTX 280+ is already coming out, why buy a 280-? I dont get there strategy at all. They release a card then a month or two later they release a + or revision of it thats alot better.

Just their way of answering the competition. If the 4870x2 wasn't around, the + would probably cost like $800 as the 8800 ultra did, if it came into existence at all.

ShadowFoldGTX 280+ is already coming out, why buy a 280-? I dont get there strategy at all. They release a card then a month or two later they release a + or revision of it thats alot better.

The regular card is about $400 or less. Knowing stupid NV, they will release the 280+ or whatever at some foolish price. I would be surprised if it was $500. If they did sell it at that, then that's basically NV saying that it matches the 4870x2 :wtf: When it comes down to it, there's only preference. The GTX280 is a monster at $400 & the price is only dropping, even so its still worth every penny considering what it was at :rolleyes: Whatever the 280+ comes out at, if its not lower than the 4870x2 then it won't be worth it at all. But of course NV wouldn't be silly enough to make that mistake again now would they :p