Love the FTW's, except the price.......

Stock speeds of 713, hmmmm. very nice!

My EVGA GTX 260 can do 756 core and 1512 on the shaders :p

But If I were buying now, Id definetly get an EVGA GTX275 and flash it to a FTW edition.

TBH all this product is good for is its BIOS, waste of money otherwise IMO.

Yeah it appears they're following the same tradition the original GTX260's and 280's had, NV designed board, stock cooling and clocks change in bios that allows them to charge an extra 50 bucks for what we can do with a free program or bios mod. That's cool because some people would rather buy the pre-oc'd product, and maybe these higher-end ones are higher binned? Who knows, I love my 260, but I wouldn't mind one of these! Though from what I've heard, there isn't voltage support for them outside of bios...dunno if it's true or if they're too new to be supported yet, or what kind of voltage regulation they use. I do love being able to run my GTX260 at it's OC'd levels with .988v, that is FTW my friends! :D

EVGA has great cards though, I'll definately buy another one of their products! :toast:

A fancy BIOS and high factory OC aren't the only things you get with higher (SSC, FTW) variants. They're binned for better OC.

IMO they dont even bin them. Its probably cheaper to just replace the ones that cant make the clocks. We have seen it before on here were people have had to RMA a factoru OC'd card cus it was unstable.

btarunrA fancy BIOS and high factory OC aren't the only things you get with higher (SSC, FTW) variants. They're binned for better OC.

True but many of the basic-model cards in this GTX range have gotten very similar OC levels due to the way the clocks increase in larger steps at the higher clock-ranges on said cards. Many max out at a similar level...which is a shame because I bet we'd see more difference if we could utilize a +/- 1 MHz clock step instead of almost +/- 20MHz. Either way great cards, I'm sure these higher end cards may go further, but from watching in history with previous GTX cards on stock air cooling, pre-oc'd or not, many maxed out at the same values with the occasional tatty deluxe OC-er that could go that next step. :D

Supposedly the 275ftw edition is faster than the 280 ftw

HomelessSupposedly the 275ftw edition is faster than the 280 ftw

Thats cus the clocks are higher and the GTX 275 has the same number of SPs as the 280 :)

yea i must say i agree, though that is a nice stock overclock. for 7800GTX's i'm able to pass the highest factory overclocked version that was released just fine. factory oc'd cards i would just get cause i'd hope it had more headroom to go higher than stock cards. has there been any proof that factory oc'd cards oc higher than stock?

alexp999My EVGA GTX 260 can do 756 core and 1512 on the shaders :p

But If I were buying now, Id definetly get an EVGA GTX275 and flash it to a FTW edition.

TBH all this product is good for is its BIOS, waste of money otherwise IMO.

Thing is there with eVGA they save the less clockable ones for the cheaper cards.

So getting a standard one of them you might not able clock it any were near what there others are clocked at as they would of sold it for more likely.

I dunno every plain GTX260 I've dealt with has been a solid overclocker hitting what many other cards get and exceeding FTW clocks for that brand line. Not saying the 55nm GTX275's are the same way, but tbh, I've yet to see a crap OC-ing GTX260 on plain XFX, BFG and EVGA's that is. I put quite a few into builds, and just had to test them, or for a couple good friends OC'd it for them...I was not let down by a single one, all were easily able to attain +100MHz or more on GPU, +200MHz or more on shaders and +200Mhz on memory quite easily, shooting right past the top Pre-OC'd models available in a 65nm GTX260. It should also be noted even of the best GTX260's, few could hit the magical 800/1600, very few, some were plain cards, some were pre-oc'd, many were under water...not many could keep it stable for more than a few bench runs...many maxed out around the 750/1550 mark across the brand line.

:toast:

300$ ! , too much

So really... whats the point of having a gtx280 now when a 275 is pushing those clocks.

It still a little in gtx285 price range so what the point of getting this? GTX285 went down in price I can find one for $299.

btarunrA fancy BIOS and high factory OC aren't the only things you get with higher (SSC, FTW) variants. They're binned for better OC.

i've always heard that rumor about binning and better pwm for the ssc's and ftw's, but from what i am hearing now, it just magical marketing,

Still i like the 280's, the price is right and I just love the cards....
i found some nice ssc and 1 ftw that does over 800 on water.