Tuesday, July 7th 2009

Phenom II TWKR 42 Hits 7.00 GHz, New High for AMD

AMD's Phenom II TWKR 42 quad-core CPU was made with only one objective: to deliver record-setting CPUs to more professional overclockers than thought was possible. Having rolled out at least 100 units, AMD opened a door for several world-record attempts. Some of the most important ones took place at the SF3D OC Gathering in Finland. The new world record the group of overclockers put up was 7.00 GHz. The record was attempted on a DFI LANParty 790FXB-M3eH7 motherboard, and involved (from what the validation page shows) a bus speed of 250 MHz, and 28.0x bus multiplier. Its voltage remains a secret-sauce.

Other highlights include a run of 3DMark06 with the CPU clocked at 6.54 GHz, on a different bench. 3DMark06 tests the stability of this clock speed, as the test includes the CPU test score. The bench was aided by two ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 GPUs in CrossFireX mode. The same bench was used for a run of 3DMark05, with the CPU clocked at 6.67 GHz. This time however, the CPU test was not part of the score.
Sources: XtremeSystems, PCGH
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90 Comments on Phenom II TWKR 42 Hits 7.00 GHz, New High for AMD

#1
Weer
OMG. First 7.0Ghz on anything besides a P4. Kudos.

Oh yes.. "Will it run Crysis 2?"
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#2
mdm-adph
Very cool, and I'm sure it's quite fast as those speeds, but these days are starting to seem more and more like the old Athlon64/Pentium4 days, just completely reversed. :rolleyes:
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#3
MilkyWay
its not the fastest speed ever, there have been faster but not for commercial cpus
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#4
D4S4
now that's better :D
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#5
Weer
mdm-adphVery cool, and I'm sure it's quite fast as those speeds, but these days are starting to seem more and more like the old Athlon64/Pentium4 days, just completely reversed. :rolleyes:
Excellent notion. It's true.

I wonder why AMD simply can't keep up with Intel. They could make a CPU better than i7, can't they?
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#6
t77snapshot
Finally some results;) But how come there are no test marks for the 7.0 clock? was it not stable? Either way I am very impressed with AMD and the new TWKR chip. I just hope it will be RTM sometime in the near future:cool:
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#7
wiak
this is a binned 955 chip not a TWKR chip ;)
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#8
oli_ramsay
nice going AMD!

but wth does TWKR mean?
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#9
t77snapshot
wiakthis is a binned 955 chip not a TWKR chip ;)
I'm sorry I got confused about something else. I have read in the past that the Twkr was a Deneb with unlock multipers. Sorry for being dumb once again.:laugh:
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#10
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
oli_ramsaybut wth does TWKR mean?
For "those who know"-er (r).
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#11
t77snapshot
oli_ramsaybut wth does TWKR mean?
"Tweaker"
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#12
Wile E
Power User
wiakthis is a binned 955 chip not a TWKR chip ;)
That's all a TWKR is.
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#13
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
Wile EThat's all a TWKR is.
^What he said. It's a high-leakage Deneb. AMD will call it anything. What specs it comes with it isn't material.
WeerOh yes.. "Will it run Crysis 2?"
At 7 GHz? I don't think so.

Try the good old Xbox 360 instead.
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#14
mdm-adph
WeerExcellent notion. It's true.

I wonder why AMD simply can't keep up with Intel. They could make a CPU better than i7, can't they?
Perhaps because Intel is about 20 times the size of AMD, with vastly more resources, and shady business practices that hurt AMD any time they start to get ahead?

It's not a matter of keeping up -- please don't mistake my post for Intel-fanboyism.

I was merely making an observation. :laugh:
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#15
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
its not a binned 955 its just a binned deneb chip all of the chips are the same SOI package until they are binned into 955's and 920's and 910's etc.
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#16
Kitkat
MilkyWayits not the fastest speed ever, there have been faster but not for commercial cpus
thanks?? lol Anyways i know this chip can go faster than this theres already rumor its beaten ppl have beaten 955 vs 955 many times so im sure we will see better setups in the future plus it was done on a foxcon right i wanna see the crosshair III setup it got the last 955 record so lets see the TWKR record on that by some pros. There is one in the press pick but not used? maybe its next
oli_ramsaynice going AMD!

but wth does TWKR mean?
i think its tweaker
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#17
1Kurgan1
The Knife in your Back
mdm-adphVery cool, and I'm sure it's quite fast as those speeds, but these days are starting to seem more and more like the old Athlon64/Pentium4 days, just completely reversed. :rolleyes:
Not really, I'm sure Intel chips could OC much better if they didn't have a cold bug, just AMD found a way to get chips out that love to go far below freezing temp.
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#18
BOSE
And its totally pointless.
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#19
aj28
1Kurgan1Not really, I'm sure Intel chips could OC much better if they didn't have a cold bug
But they do, so what's your point?
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#21
mdm-adph
1Kurgan1Not really, I'm sure Intel chips could OC much better if they didn't have a cold bug, just AMD found a way to get chips out that love to go far below freezing temp.
And I'm sure AMD chips could clock even higher if they were made by unicorns that fart rainbows. :confused: Intel's chips may or may not have been able to clock higher -- the fact is they don't.

Don't get me wrong -- the Core i7 is one damn fast chip that doesn't even need to be clocked very high. Like I said before, I wasn't dissing any particular brand -- just making an observation.
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#22
wiak
Wile EThat's all a TWKR is.
well those TWKR chips they sendt out dosnt show up as 955 in CPU-Z so the TWKR chips are tweaked and uber binned 955s
:toast:
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#23
AddSub
Every few months there is one of these "Hits >X< GHz!!!" news tidbits. I'll play along: this was done on air? Oh wait, photo from the link:



How long was the setup viable for? Hours? Or could the duration be measured in minutes and seconds?

For vast majority of consumers including probably in excess of 99.9% of hardware enthusiasts and overclockers out there (including just about everyone on this forum) this is impractical and from my own personal perspective it is quite pointless as well. Unless I can run it 24/7 in a workstation-like environment then it's just Discovery channel malarkey. I mean, if I need to get a hazmat license and make sure there is a local government representative present during my overclocking sessions, then maybe it's not about overclocking anymore. Also, there is something that is almost never mentioned in these articles (probably since it would ruin the glamour of it), but many times the equipment involved is trashed after only a single run, successful or not. CPU's, motherboard's and all.


Of course, the marketing benefits for AMD and Intel (depending on which platform is involved) are pretty obvious. However, other than the raw "Ripley's Believe It Or Not!" factor of these news tidbits, I don't see anything tangible for the consumer or even for the hardware enthusiast.

I put this on the same level as that article from few years ago when somebody built a computer case out of LEGO bricks and then the whole thing melted down and set the room on fire.
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#24
1Kurgan1
The Knife in your Back
mdm-adphAnd I'm sure AMD chips could clock even higher if they were made by unicorns that fart rainbows. :confused: Intel's chips may or may not have been able to clock higher -- the fact is they don't.

Don't get me wrong -- the Core i7 is one damn fast chip that doesn't even need to be clocked very high. Like I said before, I wasn't dissing any particular brand -- just making an observation.
I don't understand the Unicorn comparison then a confused face. I said the exact reason Intels chips do not clock higher. You can't look at AMD and say "why doesn't yours have a cold bug, you guys are just tryign to clock to the sky to seem awesome". They built something that works, they aren't sending them out of the factory at crazy clocks, infact as it sits right now Intel sends out a 3.33ghz processors (thats .13ghz beyond AMD's highest clocking chip).

I understand your just making an obersvation, but I'm just trying to help you understand that the i7's have a cold bug, and that AMD doesn't have the highest clocked chip on the market. Intels chips are more efficient any any given clock, but you can't really compare the likes of anything beyond the i7 920 to AMD as they just don't have chips in those price ranges. At the iven price points they are at, at stock clocks they do fantastic, and thats the difference between the old days. When Intels chips costed more, came at higher clocks, and weren't as fast (pay more for less). AMD's chips/platform is a bit cheaper and they are a bit behind at anything that isn't gaming, so pretty different situation :)
AddSubEvery few months there is one of these "Hits >X< GHz!!!" news tidbits. I'll play along: this was done on air? Oh wait, photo from the link:

How long was the setup viable for? Hours? Or could the duration be measured in minutes and seconds?
They are just going for world records, no one should be thinking they are running these 24/7, if they do thats their fault. They can only take so much voltage for so long, nothing wrong with setting new records, almost any product for anything put on the tech market (the companys) are always trying to get the world record spot or be the best
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#25
Imsochobo
its the fastest 7 ghz.

will it run crysis.... stuff.

Depends on GPU(not in question->, CPU wise, Yes, it will run just as a ~5ghz core i7.

high 5's i guess, since crysis is able to use 4 cores, and not 8 threads so only IPC will be in force vs a i7.

only reason why we cant run crysis(at vhigh2560x1600) is gpu gpu gpu, not that CFX 900 Mhz core based 4870x2 is weak :P (like 4890oc times 4 in cf)
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