Xeon Owners Club

[natr0n]

That doesn't seem right. I think what will happen is if you only use four, two per CPU that each CPU drops to dual channel mode. I'd use 6 of them as well, 3 for each CPU and call it good.

Running dual CPU's isn't what it once was. As long as your CPU's match and the ram modules match, you're good to go. For gaming, you'll get diminishing returns on some games, depending on the game, and amazing results for others. But multi-tasking or audio/video rendering, it's going to scream.

I got a matched pair and all the ram are identical. For games I lock/limit my fps to 60 usually with my 7970. As long as it can maintain that I got no worries.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I got a matched pair and all the ram are identical. For games I lock/limit my fps to 60 usually with my 7970. As long as it can maintain that I got no worries.

You should be good at 60hz. It's funny your considering this setup as a primary system. Been thinking of doing the same myself. My 5820k is a damn good chip, but for much of what I do, even dropping back to an X5680 by getting another to match one I already have or even the pair of X5650's I've got would still be an upgrade by comparison in many ways. The only problem with this is my case. Most dual 1366 boards are EATX and my CM HAF-XB won't take one. And I really like this case. Could go with a Corsair Air model..

EDIT; I just looked at the support page for that board. It only has drivers upto Windows Vista. While they'll certainly work in 7 and 8/8.1, Windows 10 might be dodgy.. Or are you going to do Server 2012R2?

 

[FireFox]

Nice! The X5675's are the fastest 6-core 95watt parts for socket 1366.

The 95Watt it's what makes it special but for clock speed i prefer the 5690 even they are 130W

 

[natr0n]

You should be good at 60hz. It's funny your considering this setup as a primary system. Been thinking of doing the same myself. My 5820k is a damn good chip, but for much of what I do, even dropping back to an X5680 by getting another to match one I already have or even the pair of X5650's I've got would still be an upgrade by comparison in many ways. The only problem with this is my case. Most dual 1366 boards are EATX and my CM HAF-XB won't take one. And I really like this case. Could go with a Corsair Air model..

EDIT; I just looked at the support page for that board. It only has drivers upto Windows Vista. While they'll certainly work in 7 and 8/8.1, Windows 10 might be dodgy.. Or are you going to do Server 2012R2?

I usually never bother with supplied drivers. I use this http://www.snappy-driver-installer.org/ or manually find/install them.
I'm just going to test with win 7pro, 8.1 embedded and perhaps 10 ltsb. From 8.1 on just about anything will work with windows built in drivers from the get go. Dont want to bother with server os.

I got my nice foam testbench for now.

The 95Watt it's what makes it special but for clock speed i prefer the 5690 even they are 130W

I would've liked them as well but prices have shot really high for them. I got my pair for about $85 and the board for 85 as well.

 

[FireFox]

would've liked them as well but prices have shot really high for them. I got my pair for about $85 and the board for 85 as well

Fair enough.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

I got my pair for about $85 and the board for 85 as well.

bloody hell thats cheap.


link to the board please.

 

[lexluthermiester]

10 ltsb

LTSB is good in the fact that it can be roped in. But it has it's challenges. Still give it try on a spare HDD and if it works for you, then you can jump in whole-hog.

I would've liked them as well but prices have shot really high for them. I got my pair for about $85 and the board for 85 as well.

OOHH! Good prices. Where you get them? For that price, I'd buy a new case and PS.

 

[er557]

LTSB has got no edge browser and no store/no apps, why not just use enterprise and windows update mini tool to control updates fine grained, and it supports as many multiple cpus thread scheduling just like pro for workstations.

 

[lexluthermiester]

LTSB has got no edge browser and no store/no apps, why not just use enterprise and windows update mini tool to control updates fine grained, and it supports as many multiple cpus thread scheduling just like pro for workstations.

You just touched on the selling points. Some of us don't want Edge, Apps or the Store. At all. Seriously. But what it does offer, is the gui WITHOUT the spying and telemetry nonsense. And as far as I could tell, Cortana wasn't even present, and Windows Defender could be removed and replaced much more easily. Internet Explorer is still there, but can be deleted easily. LTSB is the Enterprise version of 10, just slimmed down and geared toward ultra-stability. If MS made this version available to the public, they'd have a HUGE success on their hands. They're just to stupid/greedy to do it. Fools..

 

[er557]

Well, it maybe me, but I like my OS as feature packed as possible, I don't like stripped down/bare bones versions. Stability in 1709 is great and all telemetry/ other can be easily disabled via a plethora of third party apps. The nice thing about enterprise is it's configurability, you can MAKE it ltsb or whatever you want. Some store apps are needed, for instance how are you going to check feedback hub otherwise etc.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Some store apps are needed, for instance how are you going to check feedback hub otherwise etc.

Why would you need to? Personally couldn't care less about the feedback hub. The store isn't really needed.

 

[natr0n]

LTSB is good in the fact that it can be roped in. But it has it's challenges. Still give it try on a spare HDD and if it works for you, then you can jump in whole-hog.

OOHH! Good prices. Where you get them? For that price, I'd buy a new case and PS.

Everything ebay. The seller has no more 5675's it seems. I will get a new case and PSU eventually.

LTSB has got no edge browser and no store/no apps, why not just use enterprise and windows update mini tool to control updates fine grained, and it supports as many multiple cpus thread scheduling just like pro for workstations.

I like my os's to be minimal as possible. When I tested out 10 retail omg what is that about. Ton of crap running. I used to tweak OS's back in the day but now they got slimmed versions and nothing breaks really.

bloody hell thats cheap.


link to the board please.

PM'D =)

 

[lexluthermiester]

PM'D =)

Me too please!

I think the EATX problem might be solved..
https://www.techpowerup.com/240040/deepcool-quadstellar-pricing-and-availability-announced

 

[Edwired]

Hi everyone just posting an update on my xeon e5450 is clocked at 4.2ghz @ 1.272v fsb 466 ram at 1140mhz 4x 2gb gskill 2.2v nb 1.44v, cpu pll 1.60 tested by dmm bios states 1.54v, fsb term 1.38v bios, 1.40 tested by dmm. The temperatures are not too bad at all, during gaming it hit below 50c on the cpu and gpu it below 45c. I feel theres more headroom for further overclock on the cpu my goal is to hit 4.5ghz and call it a day

 

[lexluthermiester]

Hi everyone just posting an update on my xeon e5450 is clocked at 4.2ghz @ 1.272v fsb 466 ram at 1140mhz 4x 2gb gskill 2.2v nb 1.44v, cpu pll 1.60 tested by dmm bios states 1.54v, fsb term 1.38v bios, 1.40 tested by dmm. The temperatures are not too bad at all, during gaming it hit below 50c on the cpu and gpu it below 45c. I feel theres more headroom for further overclock on the cpu my goal is to hit 4.5ghz and call it a day

You got a Harpertown to 4.2? Wow! Silicon lottery winner there. Seriously doubting it'll get to 4.5. If you you do it's gonna take a much more voltage and it'll burn out. The 45nm lithography process has it's physical limits. If you push beyond them, you'll literally crack the die with a voltage induced heat fracture. I'd call it good at 4.2, but that's just me.

 

[Edwired]

As intel states it can run to 1.35v but trying to figure out the gtl 0/2 and 1/3. Been told to keep it 0.630 for 0/2 with 0.670 for 1/3. With the vid on the cpu states 1.162v. Question is what the story with the cpu pll been told it can run to 1.80v but cant find the source to comfirm that at all?

 

[lexluthermiester]

Or are you going to do Server 2012R2?

I meant Server 2008 R2, sorry about that..

 

[natr0n]

I'm still waiting on mobo. Seller was on vacation till today.
I got these though.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Nice!

 

[er557]

Of course you'd be better off with some newer generation xeons, although e5 v3 and e5 v4 had seen price increases even as used parts, accross the board.
You will have fun with them, but performance not really comparable to today's retail offerings. Is this platform still alive for gaming and workstation?
Did you check whether you could get away with non-ecc regular dimms/ as that could give you a cheaper option for triple channel. It's not very well documented, but some people use regular dimms on server boards just fine. It depends more whether the CPUS will support them. BTW, I hope they are same stepping and identical

 

[jaggerwild]

Just got my Zeon 2630 V3, put it in my X99 Asus board booted up. Boom 8/16 core goodness I'll be swapping it out with my X79 Deluxe.

 

[natr0n]

Of course you'd be better off with some newer generation xeons, although e5 v3 and e5 v4 had seen price increases even as used parts, accross the board.
You will have fun with them, but performance not really comparable to today's retail offerings. Is this platform still alive for gaming and workstation?
Did you check whether you could get away with non-ecc regular dimms/ as that could give you a cheaper option for triple channel. It's not very well documented, but some people use regular dimms on server boards just fine. It depends more whether the CPUS will support them. BTW, I hope they are same stepping and identical

Eventually I will get a some modern xeons. The xeons I got are a matched 5675 pair all the same numbers.
I got the ram already.

 

[phill]

Of course you'd be better off with some newer generation xeons, although e5 v3 and e5 v4 had seen price increases even as used parts, accross the board.
You will have fun with them, but performance not really comparable to today's retail offerings. Is this platform still alive for gaming and workstation?
Did you check whether you could get away with non-ecc regular dimms/ as that could give you a cheaper option for triple channel. It's not very well documented, but some people use regular dimms on server boards just fine. It depends more whether the CPUS will support them. BTW, I hope they are same stepping and identical

Trying to find a newer Xeon setup seems to be rather difficult as well.. Thought a rack mounted server would be a bit cheaper as well, so trying to find one of them if I can... Sandy Bridge or newer I think...

 

[er557]

Then search for QS keyword, as in QS stepping- this is ES but same as retail in speed and function, and much cheaper, especially used. QS is effectively production stepping in disquise. Preferably from japan, not china though. I dont like the rebranded/ re-marked business. Got lucky swinging two 18 core parts a year apart, yet identical in stepping and spec. It could be all this turbo hacking and patching may be causing some of the price rises... My only worry now is the two AIO pumps from corsair make it in the long run...

 

[FireFox]

Trying to find a newer Xeon setup seems to be rather difficult as well..

It is not difficult to find, money makes things easier.