ASUS Radeon RX 5700 XT STRIX OC

[B-Real]

Anand measured 5%: https://www.anandtech.com/show/14618/the-amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt-rx-5700-review/16
Only, this isn't about performance alone. If you get the 2070S, you get to play with RTX/DXR. If you get the 5700XT, you don't

Yep, and here's a 11-12% difference between RX5700XT and 2070S (ref vs. ref). So more than double difference. Also, at Guru3D, there was a 9% difference between RX5700 and the 2060 in FHD as far as I remember (I summerized those results some weeks ago) and it was a bit more on 1440P (I didn't summerize it but I saw bigger differences in the fps) while TPU only showed 4% difference, which is also more than double difference. So if every (or nearly every) site's results are much closer to a 2070S in the case of the RX5700XT and much closer to the 2060S in the case of the RX5700, I think there is something wrong with the method of choosing the games here.

And you know that the 2070S is 100$ more, so you pay that extra way more times than what you get for it. Like 30ish minimums and 45ish average in FHD (!!!) when RT is enabled. Or only 3 games supporting RT for nearly 1 year since the release of the RTX cards. Plus reduction of graphics quality to achieve higher fps in RT enabled Battlefield V. Plus every game - except for Metro Exodus - launching without RT (including Wolfenstein: Youngblood lately), only getting it in a later patch.

 

[las]

I recommend to check more test site's for the RX 5700 XT's performance. They are much closer to the 2070S compared to the original TPU review. Techspot f. e. only measured 2% difference between the ref RX 5700XT and ref 2070S.

And it also features a dozen games, not just 3-4. I love TPU and I start reading reviews here (and Guru3D) then go to Techspot, but I'm not really convinced of the newly selected games for the reviews. For example we have Ace Combat 7, which is a non-mainstream game and the performance of AMD cards there is pathetic (RX5700 is 10% behind a 1660Ti, WTF), while a more mainstream racing game, Forza is not included in the test (where AMD cards lead NV counterparts by nearly the same percentage as in AC7). I also don't really get why Darksiders 3 or Divinity Original Sin 2 is included.


Nope. This card is 500 pounds at OCUK, the SAME as the Strix 2060S.

Remove Forza Horizon 4 and Fortnite and the difference is 7%

A fully overclocked 2070 Super will be faster, cooler and quieter.

I expected way more from custom versions of 5700 XT, a mere 5% perf increase and NO OC HEADROOM whatsoever, disappointing.

 

[W1zzard]

I think there is something wrong with the method of choosing the games here.

I constantly reevaluate my selection of games, don't worry. If you're not pleased with the results, just add x% to get your desired result.

 

[B-Real]

I constantly reevaluate my selection of games, don't worry. If you're not pleased with the results, just add x% to get your desired result.

I know Wizzard, and as I said TPU is the first with Guru3D i open for reviews as I love your site.

Remove Forza Horizon 4 and Fortnite and the difference is 7%

A fully overclocked 2070 Super will be faster, cooler and quieter.

I expected way more from custom versions of 5700 XT, a mere 5% perf increase and NO OC HEADROOM whatsoever, disappointing.

Why should I remove any of them? Faster? If you check half a dozen reviews, you will see that the RX5700XT is nearly as fast as a 2070S (2-5% difference). Cooler? Wow, yes, it is 77 degrees. The ref was 15 degrees higher here. 77 C is an absolutely good result for a card with this high performance. Quiter? Check the Strix 2070S then. 29 vs 32, 34 vs 36 dB. This is nearly nothing. Most games use headphones or an 5.1. I bet you won't tell which GPU is in the rig if you test it. The Strix 5700XT is 1 dB quieter than the 2070S. And you get this for $100 less.

 

[Zubasa]

For $500 you can buy a 2070 SUPER.

But you can't buy an Asus 2070 Super
Asus logic 101.

So that people can see how many frames they are getting with RTX, as Nvidia fans always brings RTX as a advantageous feature for Nvidia.

It is an extra feature, but the issue is when people view RTX eye candy and RTX Performance hit each in a vacuum.
In some fantasy world where they think they are getting better performance and extra eye candy both at the same time.

 

[IceShroom]

what for

So that people can see how many frames they are getting with RTX, as Nvidia fans always brings RTX as a advantageous feature for Nvidia.

 

[nguyen]

I recommend to check more test sites for the RX 5700 XT's performance. They are much closer to the 2070S compared to the original TPU review. Techspot f. e. only measured 2% difference between the ref RX 5700XT and ref 2070S.
And it also features a dozen games, not just 3-4. I love TPU and I start reading reviews here (and Guru3D) then go to Techspot, but I'm not really convinced of the newly selected games for the reviews. For example we have Ace Combat 7, which is a non-mainstream game and the performance of AMD cards there is pathetic (RX5700 is 10% behind a 1660Ti, WTF), while a more mainstream racing game, Forza is not included in the test (where AMD cards lead NV counterparts by nearly the same percentage as in AC7). I also don't really get why Darksiders 3 or Divinity Original Sin 2 is included.
Nope. This card is 500 pounds at OCUK, the SAME as the Strix 2060S.

Lol I had problems with Techspot game selection actually, they intentionally removed game that favor Nvidia but have huge player bases (PUBG, GTA V, Frostpunk, No Man Sky, etc...) while retain AMD games that literally no one play anymore in their big benchmarks (Sniper Elite 4, Deus Ex Mankind Divided, Strange Brigade, etc...). Really if any site keep benchmarking dead games I might as well look at 3Dmark score.

For reference here is my steam games

 

[B-Real]

Lol I had problems with Techspot game selection actually, they intentionally removed game that favor Nvidia but have huge player bases (PUBG, GTA V, Frostpunk, No Man Sky, etc...) while retain AMD games that literally no one play anymore in their big benchmarks (Sniper Elite 4, Deus Ex Mankind Divided, Strange Brigade, etc...). Really if any site keep benchmarking dead games I might as well look at 3Dmark score.

For reference here is my steam gamesView attachment 129080

Nearly every site removed GTA V from its lineup, including TPU and Guru3D. And if you check it, you will see that nearly no sites use PUBG as a benchmark, as it is an absolute trash for benchmarking.

 

[Zubasa]

Nearly every site removed GTA V from its lineup, including TPU and Guru3D. And if you check it, you will see that nearly no sites use PUBG as a benchmark, as it is an absolute trash for benchmarking.

Especially when GTA5 have been shown to have stuttering issue with high FPS due to the engine.

 

[B-Real]

Remove Forza Horizon 4 and Fortnite and the difference is 7%

A fully overclocked 2070 Super will be faster, cooler and quieter.

I expected way more from custom versions of 5700 XT, a mere 5% perf increase and NO OC HEADROOM whatsoever, disappointing.

Check this then from the Strix 5700XT Guru3D review:

https://www.guru3d.com/index.php?ct=articles&action=file&id=53459

You can achieve +5% by tweaking (UV).

I'm buying an AIB for being cooler and quieter, not for being faster as you can OC reference cards too. This Strix does that. However, it's way too expensive. I'm waiting for the reference priced Powercolor, the XFX Thicc, and of course the Sapphire Pulse and Nitro+.

 

[nguyen]

Nearly every site removed GTA V from its lineup, including TPU and Guru3D. And if you check it, you will see that nearly no sites use PUBG as a benchmark, as it is an absolute trash for benchmarking.

Yeah GTA V ?

The AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT & RX 5700 Review: Navi Renews Competition in the Midrange Market

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AMD Radeon RX 5700 and 5700 XT review (Page 21)

In this review, we look at the two new graphics cards released by AMD, the Radeon 5700 and 5700 XT. Both cards are based on the new NAVI GPU, fabricated at a 7nm node and capable of battling with NVI...

www.guru3d.com

PUBG and Fortnite are basically the same so yeah either way is fine. Plenty of youtubers still bench PUBG.
If you happen to look at steam game player stats

Steam Charts

Top selling and top played games across Steam

store.steampowered.com

you will find out how many players still play PUBG, GTA V, Monster Hunter World, No Man's Sky, World of Tanks, War Thunder, Arma 3, Frostpunk, For Honor, etc...and Techspot decided to remove them from the benchmark pool for the sake of who knows what (they had those results before).

 

[mahoney]

I recommend to check more test sites for the RX 5700 XT's performance. They are much closer to the 2070S compared to the original TPU review. Techspot f. e. only measured 2% difference between the ref RX 5700XT and ref 2070S.

Mate take a closer look at the games HUB selected. At least 7 of them are favorable to AMD gpu's. Don't believe me? Check the Vega 56 vs Gtx 1080 on the same chart list.
When Steve does the 30+ benchmarks of the AIB versions you'll se the 5700Xt being almost equal to the Rtx 2070

 

[nguyen]

Yeah and when benching new games HUB would conveniently omit any Nvidia favor games (TW Three Kingdoms, A Plague Tale, Vampyr, etc...). So yeah I'm trusting TPU results rather than HUB.

 

[Imsochobo]

This is why I think AMD will take performance crown in [CES/Computex?] 2020 before Nvidia will release the 7nm parts, even if it will be only for a short time.

definitely as you can just add memory bandwidth and stream processors and dial clocks down and viola it will do it!

 

[ChristTheGreat]

So depending on the CAN price, I guess this will be my next card so I can use freesync.

I have a GTX 1070 strix, and my msi monitor flash in some games (low fps, like loading) with gsync compatible enable. Too bad, the other before the RMA was working fine

 

[OC-Ghost]

Finnish e-tailer Jimms.fi has STRIX version at 589€, w/o 24% tax 448€, current EUR-to-USD 501,85$
And a TUF version at about 40€/45$ cheaper with clock speed TBD, sauce
Estimated shipping dates says not confirmed, for both currently.

 

[Zubasa]

Mate take a closer look at the games HUB selected. At least 7 of them are favorable to AMD gpu's. Don't believe me? Check the Vega 56 vs Gtx 1080 on the same chart list.
When Steve does the 30+ benchmarks of the AIB versions you'll se the 5700Xt being almost equal to the Rtx 2070

Yeah and when benching new games HUB would conveniently omit any Nvidia favor games (TW Three Kingdoms, A Plague Tale, Vampyr, etc...). So yeah I'm trusting TPU results rather than HUB.

I "like" how both of you are bashing HUB which have no relation to TPU at all in a post about W1zzard's review.

 

[nguyen]

I "like" how both of you are bashing HUB which have no relation to TPU at all in a post about W1zzard's review.

Well it was a response to B-Real who thinks W1zzard's games selection were silly lol. Should have hit the reply button :/.

 

[las]

Check this then from the Strix 5700XT Guru3D review:

https://www.guru3d.com/index.php?ct=articles&action=file&id=53459

You can achieve +5% by tweaking (UV).

I'm buying an AIB for being cooler and quieter, not for being faster as you can OC reference cards too. This Strix does that. However, it's way too expensive. I'm waiting for the reference priced Powercolor, the XFX Thicc, and of course the Sapphire Pulse and Nitro+.

You can barely OC the reference 5700 XT unless you want to go deaf - Founders 2070 Super OC's just fine tho.

I'm not really impressed with Navi so far. My 1080 Ti from early 2017 easily beats it, running at 2+ GHz in 3D. Closing in on 3 years now.

2020 is going to be a big year for GPU's. Intel dGPU's. Nvidia 7nm (Samsung EUV) Ampere and bigger Navi chips. Only decent upgrade for me now is the 2080 Ti, but no way. Ampere + 7nm is going to bring a huge leap in perf.

AMD better be right about that "Nvidia Killer" ... because AMD is going to face serious competition next year.

 

[cucker tarlson]

So that people can see how many frames they are getting with RTX, as Nvidia fans always brings RTX as a advantageous feature for Nvidia.

well with radeon you're getting 0
I really don't see the point of doing rtx testing in navi review,sorry.

 

[bug]

You can barely OC the reference 5700 XT unless you want to go deaf - Founders 2070 Super OC's just fine tho.

But now you can overclock custom designs as well

I'm not really impressed with Navi so far. My 1080 Ti from early 2017 easily beats it, running at 2+ GHz in 3D. Closing in on 3 years now.

While that is true, Navi has closed some of the gap between AMD and Nvidia: 5700 is slightly more efficient than the 2060, while 5700XT is within spitting distance of 2070S that sells for $100 more (it's not as efficient as its sibling, but that's another story).
Navi doesn't put on Nvidia the pressure we need, but other than that, it turned out better than I was expecting.

 

[selyn]

Hi all,

I saw the test of this ASUS Rx 5700xt and in 1440p is not bad , but I'm thinking if this vga is good also with 1440p ultrawide...I think that I lose about 10fps from 1440p 16:9.
Now I have GTX 1080 with CPU Ryzen 3700x , MSI X570 gaming plus and ram Gskill Trident Z 3200mhz (Bdie).

What do you think? is a good upgrade?
Nvidia 2070 super now cost 600 euro
5700xt custom 450/500 euro , if the leak are true.

Thanks

 

[epiqpnwage]

Comparing the most expensive model of all manufacturers to the cheapest model of another product is not fair.

It is fair. You can buy the cheapest model of.the 2070 super and it will still be better than the strix.
Sam thinf with the sapphire 5700xt pulse. I'd rather buy that than the asus strix 5700xt.

 

[IceShroom]

well with radeon you're getting 0
I really don't see the point of doing rtx testing in navi review,sorry.

Radeon dont market DXR as feature but Nvidia does. So games that support DXR, should be tested with DXR on RTX cards and should reflect in how much % in the graph.

 

[cucker tarlson]

Radeon dont market DXR as feature but Nvidia does. So games that support DXR, should be tested with DXR on RTX cards and should reflect in how much % in the graph.

it's done properly on the same card,e.g. gtx 2080 dxr on vs off
geforce dxr on vs navi dxr off is stupid,I don't know what else to call such test.