BEST RAM FOR ASUS HERO X570

[Deleted member 185158]

I had a look at that stuff earlier. Too bad it isn't on the QVL for my board and I don't want to give ASUS an excuse to reject a potential RMA (heaven forbid there should be one). It sure got a pile of bad reviews for B-die RAM though. That said I'm a little reserved on reviews from Newegg because a good 30 to 40% of them seem to consistently point to user error or inexperience. Or... something other?

HA! I just saw the price of it double in mid-stream on the refresh. Seriously.

G.SKILL TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-16GTZ - Newegg.com

Buy G.SKILL TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-16GTZ with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

www.newegg.ca

Well its tested on Intel. G.skill says it right on tbe web site. Its good RAM, just not for AMD.
My only suggestion is looking for memory with good JDEC timings. Thats what the board is going to post right when you clear cmos or reset all defaults.

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

I'm not even sure if I'll be getting the 3900x at this stage in the game. It's starting to look like RAM might be gobbling up that part of the budget. I might just have to settle for the 3700x (although I was originally considering the 3800). Then again, this is a gaming build and I can't see why anyone would want a 3900x strictly for gaming. I'm typing on a nice little work station atm with 128 GB of Corsair Dominator (the platinum stuff) on a sweet little Intel chip clocked at 3.9 GHz running with a NVIDIA 1070. I want to put the gaming unit on a shelf above my monitor and share the monitor via KVM. So, for the time being I have board, case, psu, Nvme, cables and such waiting on a CPU and decent RAM. It's a work in progress.

 

[moproblems99]

I'm not even sure if I'll be getting the 3900x at this stage in the game. It's starting to look like RAM might be gobbling up that part of the budget. I might just have to settle for the 3700x (although I was originally considering the 3800). Then again, this is a gaming build and I can't see why anyone would want a 3900x strictly for gaming. I'm typing on a nice little work station atm with 128 GB of Corsair Dominator (the platinum stuff) on a sweet little Intel chip clocked at 3.9 GHz running with a NVIDIA 1070. I want to put the gaming unit on a shelf above my monitor and share the monitor via KVM. So, for the time being I have board, case, psu, Nvme, cables and such waiting on a CPU and decent RAM. It's a work in progress.

This is what I bought, works dandy, jsut turn leds off:

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb...eo&cm_re=trident_z_neo-_-20-232-861-_-Product

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

lol I take it you read my comments about not wanting my PC to second as a discotheque. *take a chance.. take a chance.. That's a good price. It would even be better if those were in Canukian rubles. I'd prob go with 4X8 tho. Empty DIMMS really annoy me.

 

[moproblems99]

lol I take it you read my comments about not wanting my PC to second as a discotheque. *take a chance.. take a chance.. That's a good price. It would even be better if those were in Canukian rubles. I'd prob go with 4X8 tho. Empty DIMMS really annoy me.

Yes, but then moving to 64gb means buying an all new set. 2 x 16 gives room for expansion.

 

[thesmokingman]

I had a look at that stuff earlier. Too bad it isn't on the QVL for my board and I don't want to give ASUS an excuse to reject a potential RMA (heaven forbid there should be one). It sure got a pile of bad reviews for B-die RAM though. That said I'm a little reserved on reviews from Newegg because a good 30 to 40% of them seem to consistently point to user error or inexperience. Or... something other?

HA! I just saw the price of it double in mid-stream on the refresh. Seriously.

G.SKILL TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-16GTZ - Newegg.com

Buy G.SKILL TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-16GTZ with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

www.newegg.ca

Reviews on newegg don't carry much weight. As I've written before, that exact set you linked, I've used on my 3900x. I would still be using those had I not handed down my old 7820x instead of selling it. I kept the FOUR sticks of F4-3600C16D-16GTZ with the 7820x and got a similar G.Skill set in c15 flavor.

You are really dragging this out man. Just pick a good set with matched timings and be done.

 

[A Computer Guy]

I've looked at a lot of ram and read many conflicting reviews. I'm not all that familiar with the AMD side of things with respect to RAM and how it works with the new infinity fabric and all. Was a former hard core Intel fan until recently. The QVL list for the ASUS HERO X570 is rather extensive. I'd rather get the seasoned advice of those who actually had first hand experience. Would anyone care to contribute?

While I can't tell you what the best ram would be it seems the best bet (from what I have seen on the internet) is to stick to only 2 sticks of ram in the primary channel for the best compatibility and frequency regardless of what brand you buy so long as it's not known to be garbage ram. If you're going for Zen/Zen+ then 16GB single-rank, if your going for Zen2 then dual-rank 32GB will be fine if you want more capacity. At least minimum DDR4-3200 speed rating as with Zen+ at least should be achievable. Sometimes XMP settings won't work so be prepared to set voltage, frequency, and primary timings manually if it doesn't. See "DRAM Calculator for Ryzen" and "AMD Ryzen Memory Tweaking & Overclocking Guide" if you can't get XMP setting to work out of the box as sometimes tweaking is necessary depending on the combination of cpu-motherboard-ram. Also BIOS updates can be critical for ram compatibility so picking a good motherboard will be important. If you like using your computer more than chasing performance numbers then pick a kit that has high user rating with those using a Ryzen Zen+/Zen2 CPU in general that that should be good enough in my opinion.

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

Reviews on newegg don't carry much weight. As I've written before, that exact set you linked, I've used on my 3900x. I would still be using those had I not handed down my old 7820x instead of selling it. I kept the FOUR sticks of F4-3600C16D-16GTZ with the 7820x and got a similar G.Skill set in c15 flavor.

You are really dragging this out man. Just pick a good set with matched timings and be done.

Well, I won't be buying it anyway since Newegg just doubled the price in the middle of viewing it. I'll spend my finances elsewhere. Hey, I have 6 days to drag this out. I'm going to milk it for all it's worth. I'm like that — intensive/extensive research. Caveat Emptor! It's paid off in the past, I trust it will pay off in the future.

While I can't tell you what the best ram would be it seems the best bet (from what I have seen on the internet) is to stick to only 2 sticks of ram in the primary channel for the best compatibility and frequency regardless of what brand you buy so long as it's not known to be garbage ram. If you're going for Zen/Zen+ then 16GB single-rank, if your going for Zen2 then dual-rank 32GB will be fine if you want more capacity. At least minimum DDR4-3200 speed rating as with Zen+ at least should be achievable. Sometimes XMP settings won't work so be prepared to set voltage, frequency, and primary timings manually if it doesn't. See "DRAM Calculator for Ryzen" and "AMD Ryzen Memory Tweaking & Overclocking Guide" if you can't get XMP setting to work out of the box as sometimes tweaking is necessary depending on the combination of cpu-motherboard-ram. Also BIOS updates can be critical for ram compatibility so picking a good motherboard will be important. If you like using your computer more than chasing performance numbers then pick a kit that has high user rating with those using a Ryzen Zen+/Zen2 CPU in general that that should be good enough in my opinion.

Thanks for the advice and I appreciate it. It's been a while since I've done any AMD builds but it would seem that not much has changed over the years. To be honest I've never done an AMD build using UEFI. Most folks in these parts prefer Intel over AMD and will pay handsomely for a good build. That said this is a personal build and before I cross over I like to test the waters as it were as much as I can. It's looking like my earlier concerns are not completely without merit. There's no way I'm buying unmatched RAM and there's no way I'm settling for empty DIMMS. If it has to be 4X8 so be it. I'll definitely be using the DRAM Calculator before doing any over clocking and I'll likely not oc anything within the first year as it is a personal policy of mine with personal builds to let the system "season" a little before doing any overclocking. Perhaps that's an Intel thing but it has worked well enough for me in the past. I've reflected on some of the better advice from the good people in this forum and I do believe it would be well worth my while to at least opt for 3600 MHz but still not sure if this is going to be a problem on the HERO. I'm quite sure I chose a good system board. It should be here Monday. So far RAM looks like a tossup between the Jewlery Box stuff and the HYPER X PREDATOR B-die material. Either set costs well over 500 Canadian simoleans. Thanks for the advice.

 

[NoJuan999]

I don't know if this will help you but I have a set of G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB (2 x 8GB) (F4-3600C16D-16GVKC) @ 3733 MHz 16-19-19-19-38-58 on my Asus ROG Strix X470 with FCLK @ 1867.
They aren't the fastest RAM but they work well and they were reasonably priced and they are on my and your QVL.

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

Okay, so to be more specific, that is to "drag this out" even longer, what would be the best RAM to use on a HERO X570 VIII system board with a Ryzen7 3700x CPU populating ALL FOUR DIMMS? Evidently number of sticks seems to be a real game changer and even more so with AMD system boards.

I don't know if this will help you but I have a set of G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB (2 x 8GB) (F4-3600C16D-16GVKC) @ 3733 MHz 16-19-19-19-38-58 on my Asus ROG Strix X470 with FCLK @ 1867.
They aren't the fastest RAM but they work well and they were reasonably priced and they are on my and your QVL.
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Those are some really interesting timings. How does that higher latency affect your gaming experience? Or do you notice any difference at all. That's a sweet o.c. you have going there. Makes the 3700x look like a chip worth getting. Thanks for sharing. *oh* I keep forgetting to ask the crucial question:

What do you recommend for a 4x8 configuration?​

 

[NoJuan999]

Those are some really interesting timings. How does that higher latency affect your gaming experience? Or do you notice any difference at all. That's a sweet o.c. you have going there. Makes the 3700x look like a chip worth getting. Thanks for sharing.

Honestly, the RAM being set at 3733 MHz 16-19-19-19-38-58 vs 3600 MHz 16-18-18-18-38-58 doesn't really make any noticeable difference when gaming that I can tell.
If I tested them with MSI Afterburner OSD fps going it would most likely see few fps improvement.
I game at 1080p/60 Hz with my 3700x and RTX 2060 Super (OC'd to 2080 MHz) so I get 100+ fps on pretty much every game set on Ultra either way.
For me as long as I get 60+ fps without any stuttering I'm happy and I get that no matter if I run my RAM at 3600 or 3733.
I really just OC'd the RAM to see if I could and because I enjoy tweaking my PC.

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

Your CPU clock is 4367 MHz. Almost 4.4 Ghz. That's nothing to sneeze at. With RAM speeds like that your system must be blazing fast. I was just wondering how the high latency might affect over all gaming performance. Still looking for your RAM online.

 

[NoJuan999]

Your CPU clock is 4367 MHz. Almost 4.4 Ghz. That's nothing to sneeze at. With RAM speeds like that your system must be blazing fast. I was just wondering how the high latency might affect over all gaming performance. Still looking for your RAM online.

That isn't all core though.
I regularly see 4.392 GHz on up to 4 cores and up to 4.367 or so on the other 4 cores.
When Gaming MSI OSD shows anywhere from 4300 to 4400 Mhz (it obviously rounds up because my BCLK is set 100 MHz but reads as 99.8 or so in Windows).

But Yes I am definitely happy with the overall performance of my PC.
Here's my best Cinebench R20 run so far (that was with my RAM at 3600):

PS
This is the RAM kit I am using with my 3700x:

F4-3600C16D-16GVKC - QVL - G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

QVL (Qualified Vendor List) for F4-3600C16D-16GVKC. Find compatible motherboard or hardware for this product.

www.gskill.com

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

Windows isn't really the best reference software going anyway but we're splitting hairs here @ one thousandth of a point.
I'd be happy with what you have if I can get those numbers with a 4x8 RAM configuration. I'm guessing I can't but I can't even find your RAM online. lol Do you have a link to it?

oops.. my bad. Just got your pic on refresh. Thanks so much!

 

[NoJuan999]

Here is a link to the 32 GB - 4 stick kit of my same RAM:

F4-3600C16Q-32GVKC - Overview - G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

Ripjaws V series DDR4 DRAM memory is designed for sleek aesthetics and performance, making it an ideal choice for building a new PC system or for upgrading your system memory.

www.gskill.com

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

Ha! Think I found a link to a Canadian retailer. It's marked out of stock.

G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-16GVK - Newegg.com

Buy G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-16GVK with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

www.newegg.ca

 

[NoJuan999]

Look Here for the 32 GB kit:

G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16Q-32GVKC - Newegg.com

Buy G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16Q-32GVKC with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

www.newegg.ca

Or the exact 16 GB Kit that I have:

G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB DDR4 3600 RAM Memory - Newegg.com

Buy G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-16GVKC with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

www.newegg.ca

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

Thanks again. I'm looking at it right now. Looks identical to the stuff you use.

 

[NoJuan999]

It is the exact same RAM the only difference is that mine came in a 2 stick kit (16 GB) and that is a 4 stick kit (32 GB).
The models numbers only differ by one letter and 32 vs 16, mine has a D for dual kit (F4-3600C16D-16GVKC)
and that one has a Q for Quad kit (F4-3600C16Q-32GVKC).

 

[Zach_01]

When Gaming MSI OSD shows anywhere from 4300 to 4400 Mhz (it obviously rounds up because my BCLK is set 100 MHz but reads as 99.8 or so in Windows).

Disable "Spread Spectrum" in UEFI and you will get an even 100MHz..

Those you talk about...

G.SKILL Trident Z Neo Series 32GB DDR4 Desktop RAM - Newegg.com

Buy G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model F4-3200C16D-16GVKB with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

www.newegg.ca

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

Yup. I noticed. Thanks again for sharing. Five more days to Black Friday and then I go on my spending spree. lol Good things come to those who bait. It's on the list.

Disable "Spread Spectrum" in UEFI and you will get an even 100MHz..

Those you talk about...

G.SKILL Trident Z Neo Series 32GB DDR4 Desktop RAM - Newegg.com

Buy G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model F4-3200C16D-16GVKB with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

www.newegg.ca

Too bad those we were talking about weren't these. Even worse.. too bad these ones aren't available. https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-16gb-...0 CL16&cm_re=3600_CL16-_-20-232-195-_-Product

 

[Zach_01]

Yes I noticed... but there are similar options...

G.SKILL TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model F4-3200C16D-16GTZSK - Newegg.com

Buy G.SKILL TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model F4-3200C16D-16GTZSK with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

www.newegg.ca

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

Yes but that's only two sticks. I want a matched set of 4. Nojuan has pretty much nailed it in that regard. Alas, the reviews are saying the RAM is pretty loose. I'm still keeping it on the list. The price is probably unbeatable.

 

[Zach_01]

...and its not on QVL either as I just saw

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

...and its not on QVL either as I just saw

*tsk* *tsk* ASUS RMA department would frown on that. Ever have to RMA a board to them? I could tell you some stories.