BEST RAM FOR ASUS HERO X570

[Deleted member 185158]

A lot of the advise is solid. Go for good b-die (straight timed...IE 14-14-14), even the new hynix chips. Buy the speed you want, as even what you see in reviews may not be attainable, but the board you chose is designed for RAM tweaking with special attention paid to the layout of the motherboard to aid in that quest. It really comes down to the IMC, and if you want to clock for the stars, opt for the 3600X as it is what is able to run 5000MHz RAM currently.

I know the choices are overwhelming.

There it is right there.
And it makes it easier to purchase Ram.
"Buy the speed you want"
"get straight timing sets IE 14-14-14"
"3600x has the best potential to run up to 5000mhz memory frequency."

Speed isn't everything and Latency isn't everything.

The sweet spot is.......

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

Well, from all I've read and researched the sweet spot sits here.

https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-16gb-...&cm_re=trident_z_royal-_-20-232-809-_-Product

BUT I'm not too sure if I want my PC to look like jewelry box.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Well, from all I've read and researched the sweet spot sits here.

https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232809?Description=trident z royal&cm_re=trident_z_royal-_-20-232-809-_-Product

BUT I'm not too sure if I want my PC to look like jewelry box.

I prefer the silver ones.

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

That reminds me... The wife was looking at new silverware the other day...

I think this RAM is for young men who are thinking about squandering their hard-earned wages on engagement rings... DON'T DO IT!!!

Ya know, they should provide the option of just getting the bare azz RAM minus heat sinks (like they did in the old days) for 100 Canadian off* the sale tag. But they won't coz too many would be smart enough to jump all over it at that price. I'm sure they'd make a ton of sales if they did though.

 

[heky]

Well, from all I've read and researched the sweet spot sits here.

https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232809?Description=trident z royal&cm_re=trident_z_royal-_-20-232-809-_-Product

BUT I'm not too sure if I want my PC to look like jewelry box.

What...with that price, how can that be the sweetspot? I am getting 32GB for that price...and a higher bin at that.

 

[the_O_fish]

I'm running Corsair Vengeance LPX (this) with great results

 

[Zach_01]

Simple and effective(?)

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Expensive stuff...

G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-32GTZR - Newegg.com

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Could not care less for RGB, but the plague is spreading... like fake jewellery and fake boobs...

I'm running Corsair Vengeance LPX (this) with great results

What platform/CPU?

 

[the_O_fish]

Simple and effective(?)

G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-16GVK - Newegg.com

Buy G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-16GVK with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

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Expensive stuff...

G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-32GTZR - Newegg.com

Buy G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-32GTZR with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

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Could not care less for RGB, but the plague is spreading... like fake jewellery and fake boobs...


What platform/CPU?

Simple and effective(?)

G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-16GVK - Newegg.com

Buy G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-16GVK with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

www.newegg.ca

Expensive stuff...

G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-32GTZR - Newegg.com

Buy G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-32GTZR with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

www.newegg.ca

Could not care less for RGB, but the plague is spreading... like fake jewellery and fake boobs...


What platform/CPU?

 

[RealNeil]

I have aa ASUS ROG Crosshair-V X570 Hero board for my 3800X CPU.
I have three sets of RAM to try with it.
One is 32GB of 4133MHz. GEIL Super Luce. (four 8GB sticks)
Another set that I have on hand is a 32GB GSKill RipJaws-V, 3,600MHz. (two 16GB sticks)
Last, is a four 8GB set of GSKill Ripjaws 3,200MHz. (something that has been laying around here for months)

 

[thesmokingman]

Well, from all I've read and researched the sweet spot sits here.

https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232809?Description=trident z royal&cm_re=trident_z_royal-_-20-232-809-_-Product

BUT I'm not too sure if I want my PC to look like jewelry box.

WTH is up with that price? If you haven't noticed, there are generally speaking two types of gskills, matched timing and mismatched timing dimms. The matched timing dimms carry a 30% premium. The royals you picked are no better than the normal matched timing dimms below. And they are sell the royals in the cheap mismatched timing variant also. This is the same for the Trident Neos, with the matched set better.

G.SKILL TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-16GTZ - Newegg.com

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[Deleted member 185158]

That reminds me... The wife was looking at new silverware the other day...

I think this RAM is for young men who are thinking about squandering their hard-earned wages on engagement rings... DON'T DO IT!!!

Ya know, they should provide the option of just getting the bare azz RAM minus heat sinks (like they did in the old days) for 100 Canadian off* the sale tag. But they won't coz too many would be smart enough to jump all over it at that price. I'm sure they'd make a ton of sales if they did though.

Back in the day, we used to remove the heat sinks and just fan the chips directly. The thermal pads where crap.

WTH is up with that price?

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Using this set with 2700x pos IMC. Does Cl 12/13 @ 3000 mhz.
Havent tried it with the 8700k yet though. (Probably do better frequency at cas 12 with the i7 though.

 

[thesmokingman]

Using this set with 2700x pos IMC. Does Cl 12/13 @ 3000 mhz.
Havent tried it with the 8700k yet though. (Probably do better frequency at cas 12 with the i7 though.

You keep describing your overclocks and I don't think many get the crux of it.

With the matched timing dimms their ratings are often understated, meaning you can often overclock them further as shrimp keeps showing above. The flip side of that are the mismatched sets which are generally only good to what they are specced to. This should illuminate the differences in the quality and capabilities of the dimms.

 

[the_O_fish]

Back in the day, we used to remove the heat sinks and just fan the chips directly. The thermal pads where crap.



Using this set with 2700x pos IMC. Does Cl 12/13 @ 3000 mhz.
Havent tried it with the 8700k yet though. (Probably do better frequency at cas 12 with the i7 though.

I still take the heat sinks off. I hate the stupid things.
I have two of those Gigabyte fellers that come with the overpriced copper pants. Took off the copper right away. The way the nvme slots are placed on the x570 boards, it doesn't make much sense to have heat sinks. You can sink that heat all you want, but when the sink is jammed behind the ABS cowl of a three-slot GPU it's just going to keep that drive hot.

Ditch the pants, make room for air, have a beer.

 

[Deleted member 185158]

You keep describing your overclocks and I don't think many get the crux of it.

With the matched timing dimms their ratings are often understated, meaning you can often overclock them further as shrimp keeps showing above. The flip side of that are the mismatched sets which are generally only good to what they are specced to. This should illuminate the differences in the quality and capabilities of the dimms.

How can I describe the importance of what overclocking is.

So the second you move from auto to x speed you just took chances of anything running at any speed because now thats an over clock.

While many can decribe their ideas of what this or that ram will do on any over clock, seldom are the ideas invoked that there's a WHOLE LOT more to tweaking memory.

Sometimes that loose cl16 at anything under 4000mhz while spoiled with a better IMC should be aiming cas 14 or tighter.

AMD has always done best on fast and tight.

Where's the middle ground? Cas 14 3600nhz or tigher.
But some one else's rig will do something different.
Nobdies suggestion is valid nor invalid here.

And lastly, performance is measured in numbers. You tweak memory to certain tasks to system capability. It takes much time to really test memory sticks. Theres a lot of sub timings.

 

[eidairaman1]

How can I describe the importance of what overclocking is.

So the second you move from auto to x speed you just took chances of anything running at any speed because now thats an over clock.

While many can decribe their ideas of what this or that ram will do on any over clock, seldom are the ideas invoked that there's a WHOLE LOT more to tweaking memory.

Sometimes that loose cl16 at anything under 4000mhz while spoiled with a better IMC should be aiming cas 14 or tighter.

AMD has always done best on fast and tight.

Where's the middle ground? Cas 14 3600nhz or tigher.
But some one else's rig will do something different.
Nobdies suggestion is valid nor invalid here.

And lastly, performance is measured in numbers. You tweak memory to certain tasks to system capability. It takes much time to really test memory sticks. Theres a lot of sub timings.

Oh i know that with my board, look at the specs and you will see those are what are as tight i can get, other settings im unsure what they do so i leave them alone

 

[Deleted member 185158]

Oh i know that with my board, look at the specs and you will see those are what are as tight i can get, other settings im unsure what they do so i leave them alone

Used to run cl 9-10-9-27-36 FX I think it was Mushkin Redline sticks 1100mhz if I recall. 1.45 cpu/nb 1.30v chipset. Asus Crosshair V formula Z. Yea some 6ghz runs on that set up too. Dice cooling. Fun times.

 

[eidairaman1]

Used to run cl 9-10-9-27-36 FX I think it was Mushkin Redline sticks 1100mhz if I recall. 1.45 cpu/nb 1.30v chipset. Asus Crosshair V formula Z. Yea some 6ghz runs on that set up too. Dice cooling. Fun times.

I may try the nb bump and chipset too.

2400 is xmp but timings are tuned, Id have to push the FSB to go higher than 2400.

 

[Deleted member 185158]

Cpu/nb is IMC voltage. Cpu temps go up with it. So watch for that.

 

[thesmokingman]

How can I describe the importance of what overclocking is.

So the second you move from auto to x speed you just took chances of anything running at any speed because now thats an over clock.

While many can decribe their ideas of what this or that ram will do on any over clock, seldom are the ideas invoked that there's a WHOLE LOT more to tweaking memory.

Sometimes that loose cl16 at anything under 4000mhz while spoiled with a better IMC should be aiming cas 14 or tighter.

AMD has always done best on fast and tight.

Where's the middle ground? Cas 14 3600nhz or tigher.
But some one else's rig will do something different.
Nobdies suggestion is valid nor invalid here.

And lastly, performance is measured in numbers. You tweak memory to certain tasks to system capability. It takes much time to really test memory sticks. Theres a lot of sub timings.

Yea, I think you misunderstood my post. The point was that the matched dimms have much better overclocking headroom vs the mismatched dimms.

 

[Deleted member 185158]

Yea, I think you misunderstood my post. The point was that the matched dimms have much better overclocking headroom vs the mismatched dimms.

Lucky mis-matched DIMMs even post...... sometimes they do sometimes they don't.
Saw you mentioned it, figured by now it was normal not to mismatch memory.

 

[eidairaman1]

Cpu/nb is IMC voltage. Cpu temps go up with it. So watch for that.

55 gaming bro

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

Back in the day, we used to remove the heat sinks and just fan the chips directly. The thermal pads where crap.

Using this set with 2700x pos IMC. Does Cl 12/13 @ 3000 mhz.
Havent tried it with the 8700k yet though. (Probably do better frequency at cas 12 with the i7 though.

I had a look at that stuff earlier. Too bad it isn't on the QVL for my board and I don't want to give ASUS an excuse to reject a potential RMA (heaven forbid there should be one). It sure got a pile of bad reviews for B-die RAM though. That said I'm a little reserved on reviews from Newegg because a good 30 to 40% of them seem to consistently point to user error or inexperience. Or... something other?

HA! I just saw the price of it double in mid-stream on the refresh. Seriously.

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[moproblems99]

2. Not B-die when B-die is repeatedly reported by better evaluators than you or I as being the best choice for this type of platform.

This was really only true for first and second generations. 3rd generation have solved most of that and most other RAM ICs work ok. I have CJR and it works fine and it wasn't on my QVL. Take a look at Corsair. They use B-Dies and lots people have problems with them. Chances are, any RAM you buy will likely work. In any case, if you can get you ram running above 3200 CL14 in 1:1 then you are looking at 5% or less of performance difference from best to worst. Buy a set of RAM and put it in and enjoy. Don't make this more difficult than it needs to be.

Edit: Don't worry about the RGB editions either. They should be able to be turned off with software.

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

This was really only true for first and second generations. 3rd generation have solved most of that and most other RAM ICs work ok. I have CJR and it works fine and it wasn't on my QVL. Take a look at Corsair. They use B-Dies and lots people have problems with them. Chances are, any RAM you buy will likely work. In any case, if you can get you ram running above 3200 CL14 in 1:1 then you are looking at 5% or less of performance difference from best to worst. Buy a set of RAM and put it in and enjoy. Don't make this more difficult than it needs to be.

After spending nearly a day's worth of time on hundreds of sites (not even exaggerating here) reading all I could without interruption, I've pretty much come to the same conclusion. Hence, my earlier statement about scrapping the ratio. Meh, sour grapes. I should consider that I'll likely be using the thing for about a decade and put some good stuff in it. The budget graphics card is a cop out. I'll likely be in a better position to snag a better card at a later date. The Hero 8 doesn't look like junk. I expect it'll last. I really should give it some RAM that'll do it justice.

I have aa ASUS ROG Crosshair-V X570 Hero board for my 3800X CPU.
I have three sets of RAM to try with it.
One is 32GB of 4133MHz. GEIL Super Luce. (four 8GB sticks)
Another set that I have on hand is a 32GB GSKill RipJaws-V, 3,600MHz. (two 16GB sticks)
Last, is a four 8GB set of GSKill Ripjaws 3,200MHz. (something that has been laying around here for months)

Please keep me posted, Neil. You have my interest.

 

[moproblems99]

After spending nearly a day's worth of time on hundreds of sites (not even exaggerating here) reading all I could without interruption, I've pretty much come to the same conclusion. Hence, my earlier statement about scrapping the ratio. Meh, sour grapes. I should consider that I'll likely be using the thing for about a decade and put some good stuff in it. The budget graphics card is a cop out. I'll likely be in a better position to snag a better card at a later date. The Hero 8 doesn't look like junk. I expect it'll last. I really should give it some RAM that'll do it justice.



Please keep me posted, Neil. You have my interest.

I don't disagree. If you get your ram to run 3600/1800, you will be fine. That said, not all 3900X's will do 3600mhz ram. I have a friend that has one that doesn't. So....you may be out of luck regardless. That said, the 1:1 ratio of ram to if is the most important.