Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

[Calmmo]

3600x+b450 tomahawk

 

[Lorec]

Im like soooo confused right now.
I exported settings from typhoon to dram calc like @Wickedt suggested and it was still no go.
...its friday, I had couple pints too
however id tweak dram calc numbers no go.
Then I run random memory preset for 3733 for 4x8gb and it did run infact

WTF so I was like ok so how about i change it to 3800 and fclk to 1900 and run again
...
well it was a no go.
but it was 3733 @ 14-15-15 so I was like HEY how about I change it to 16-16-16?
So I did...

...and it JUST WORKS
just like that.

Im not finished though, I want to shave off point by point off of those settings until I can get memory R/W/C over 60 border and hopefully lower the latency a bit.
I found great thread on overclockers forum that helped me too overclock.net c8h OC

EDIT:

Thats the lowest I can get with PBO and CPB on Auto.
If I try to go lower, shes not gonna boost as high so yeah.
still 16-16-16 gives me higher and more sustained boosts on prefered cores so yeah.

 

[Durvelle27]

Finally back in the game

Just got a Ryzen 5 3600 which should be a decent upgrade from the 1700X i had

 

[Wickedt]

Im like soooo confused right now.
I exported settings from typhoon to dram calc like @Wickedt suggested and it was still no go.
...its friday, I had couple pints too
however id tweak dram calc numbers no go.
Then I run random memory preset for 3733 for 4x8gb and it did run infact
View attachment 139274
WTF so I was like ok so how about i change it to 3800 and fclk to 1900 and run again
...
well it was a no go.
but it was 3733 @ 14-15-15 so I was like HEY how about I change it to 16-16-16?
So I did...
View attachment 139275
...and it JUST WORKS
just like that.

Im not finished though, I want to shave off point by point off of those settings until I can get memory R/W/C over 60 border and hopefully lower the latency a bit.
I found great thread on overclockers forum that helped me too overclock.net c8h OC

EDIT:
View attachment 139279
Thats the lowest I can get with PBO and CPB on Auto.
If I try to go lower, shes not gonna boost as high so yeah.
still 16-16-16 gives me higher and more sustained boosts on prefered cores so yeah.

Showoff

 

[potato580+]

hey guys, so i decide to updating my bios, simple say which one is best? o searching my model apearing has several bios, should i just go with newest one?

and likewise what should i prepare before update, i wont broke my board, i just need stable bios, if theres no such thing, i will stay with factory bios, thx adv

 

[NoJuan999]

hey guys, so i decide to updating my bios, simple say which one is best? o searching my model apearing has several bios, should i just go with newest one?
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and likewise what should i prepare before update, i wont broke my board, i just need stable bios, if theres no such thing, i will stay with factory bios, thx adv

For your CPU on that MB, I would Strongly recommend this BIOS Version:

Version - 7A34vAI
Release Date - 2019-01-03
File Size - 10.45 MB
Description
- Improve compatibility with Raven CPU
- Improve compatibility with Bristol CPU.

Version 7A34vAJ is aimed at Bristol Ridge compatibility and 7A34vALQ (Beta version) is meant for Ryzen 3000 CPUs.
They will both still work with your CPU BUT they will not be as good with it as Version - 7A34vAI would.

 

[boise49ers]

Nope, which makes finding the right sticks a bit difficult. I can say, if you buy some G.SKill 3200 MHz C14 sticks, you should not have any problems. There are some kits ready for Ryzen from G.Skill already; at least, I have some they sent me, so I assume they will be in stores soon if not already.

You are still getting goodies sent to yuh? Do you still game with the old group we used to play BF with all the time? I quit BF after 4, but tried V for awhile. My Ryzen 3600 seems to like the G-skill I bought a lot. Bumped up the ram and still stable with zero crashes. Not even gonna bother with the CPU. I prefer stability over speed any day. Now I just need a new Graphics card. What card in the $300 range do you suggest Dave with my system specs. Was thinking about the up coming RX 5600 XT if it has 8gb of GDDR6???

 

[Durvelle27]

You are still getting goodies sent to yuh? Do you still game with the old group we used to play BF with all the time? I quit BF after 4, but tried V for awhile. My Ryzen 3600 seems to like the G-skill I bought a lot. Bumped up the ram and still stable with zero crashes. Not even gonna bother with the CPU. I prefer stability over speed any day. Now I just need a new Graphics card. What card in the $300 range do you suggest Dave with my system specs. Was thinking about the up coming RX 5600 XT if it has 8gb of GDDR6???

For $300 you could do a RX 5700

 

[potato580+]

For your CPU on that MB, I would Strongly recommend this BIOS Version:


Version 7A34vAJ is aimed at Bristol Ridge compatibility and 7A34vALQ (Beta version) is meant for Ryzen 3000 CPUs.
They will both still work with your CPU BUT they will not be as good with it as Version - 7A34vAI would.

oke will try updating tonight, anyway do ineed to backup old bios? or itsnt not n3ccesary to do so thx

 

[NoJuan999]

oke will try updating tonight, anyway do ineed to backup old bios? or itsnt not n3ccesary to do so thx

There is no need to back up your old BIOS before updating.
I would advise you to set the BIOS to Optimized Defaults and save before you update though.
That ensures a clean update.

Also Unzip the BIOS file to a 8 GB or smaller USB drive formatted to FAT 16 or FAT32 and use M-Flash from within the BIOS to do the Update, that is the safest method.

 

[potato580+]

There is no need to back up your old BIOS be fore updating.
I would advise you to set the BIOS to Optimized Defaults and save before you update though.
That ensures a clean update.

Also Unzip the BIOS file to a 8 GB or smaller USB drive formatted to FAT 16 or FAT32 and use M-Flash from within the BIOS to do the Update, that is the safest method.

ok thx for the tips, was abt do it after at home, dang i dont have smallsize, say sandisk/toshiba 32gb pendrive safe?

 

[NoJuan999]

That 32 GB flash drive should still work just make sure to format it as FAT32, I just know that an 8 GB or smaller drive tends to be what the MB manufacturers recommend.
I have a 2 GB dive and a 4 GB flash drive that I keep just for doing BIOS updates.

Read the section titled "Flash AMI UEFI BIOS by MFLASH" here:

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[Ruru]

That 32 GB flash drive should still work just make sure to format it as FAT32, I just know that an 8 GB or smaller drive tends to be what the MB manufacturers recommend.
I have a 2 GB dive and a 4 GB flash drive that I keep just for doing BIOS updates.

Read the section titled "Flash AMI UEFI BIOS by MFLASH" here:

MSI Global - The Leading Brand in High-end Gaming & Professional Creation

As a world leading gaming brand, MSI is the most trusted name in gaming and eSports. We stand by our principles of breakthroughs in design, and roll out the amazing gaming gear like motherboards, graphics cards, laptops and desktops.

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I used a 128GB drive without problems for my Asus TUF B450-Plus Gaming without problems. I do prefer my faithful Verbatim 16GB drive, so that was just a test.

 

[Durvelle27]

Anyone here using 3rd Gen and B350

 

[Ruru]

Well, after posting that previous one, I saw a new version. Not that much of a need to update since I'm kickin' with 2nd gen, but I guess it won't hurt. With the Verbatim drive

At least we got AGESA 1.0.0.4, I've already updated this once (bought this about 1½ months ago) and that one was still 1.0.0.3

e: validate: https://valid.x86.fr/btkym8

 

[Samiam66]

just put together a similar unit last week..
Amd processors have really come down in price this week ... Bonus


https://valid.x86.fr/zjnehq

 

[Ruru]

just put together a similar unit last week..
Amd processors have really come down in price this week ... Bonus


https://valid.x86.fr/zjnehq

Good point, damn, 2600 is 130EUR on its lowest here in Finland. I paid 175EUR from mine about an year ago.

I'd say that 2nd gen has a damn great price/performance ratio now.

 

[potato580+]

That 32 GB flash drive should still work just make sure to format it as FAT32, I just know that an 8 GB or smaller drive tends to be what the MB manufacturers recommend.
I have a 2 GB dive and a 4 GB flash drive that I keep just for doing BIOS updates.

Read the section titled "Flash AMI UEFI BIOS by MFLASH" here:

MSI Global - The Leading Brand in High-end Gaming & Professional Creation

As a world leading gaming brand, MSI is the most trusted name in gaming and eSports. We stand by our principles of breakthroughs in design, and roll out the amazing gaming gear like motherboards, graphics cards, laptops and desktops.

www.msi.com

done it, success in first try, i dunno whats new update for, as i test nothing change rly hehe, thx for the guide btw

Good point, damn, 2600 is 130EUR on its lowest here in Finland. I paid 175EUR from mine about an year ago.

I'd say that 2nd gen has a damn great price/performance ratio now.

still expensive here, especially gen 3rd, it cost extra $70, this is the reason i noy upgrade my cpu

 

[Durvelle27]

Anyone using the R5 3600

 

[biffzinker]

Anyone using the R5 3600

I am, my R5 3600 is a bit of a dud in the silicon lottery for a forced all core overclock. A couple of days back I was checking how high I could get the clock speed up with the Vcore limited to 1.2. It maintains stability at a clockspeed of 3,975 MHz with the Vcore set at 1.2. Another 25 MHz requires the voltage to go up.

Before though, I've just left it alone at the out of box defaults.

 

[Durvelle27]

I am, my R5 3600 is a bit of a dud in the silicon lottery for a forced all core overclock. A couple of days back I was checking how high I could get the clock speed up with the Vcore limited to 1.2. It maintains stability at a clockspeed of 3,975 MHz with the Vcore set at 1.2. Another 25 MHz requires the voltage to go up.

Before though, I've just left it alone at the out of box defaults.

What board

 

[biffzinker]

What board

I have it listed in my System Specs:

Processor	Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard	MSI B450 Tomahawk ATX

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[Durvelle27]

I have it listed in my System Specs:

Processor	Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard	MSI B450 Tomahawk ATX

MSI Global - The Leading Brand in High-end Gaming & Professional Creation

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Do you use PBO

 

[biffzinker]

Do you use PBO

No I disabled it, and left XFR on. I tried to make use of PBO but it didn't amount to a positive out come.

 

[Durvelle27]

No I disabled it, and left XFR on. I tried to make use of PBO but it didn't amount to a positive out come.

I have a B350 board which doesn't support PBO so I've been looking around for the clocks people have hit with the 3600