New build pc wont boot

bettz · Jun 14, 2020

Tried it still nothing I know my gpu works fine

Bones · Jun 14, 2020

Noted something.
First off, if you're still using the RAM sticks you have that may or may not be the cause of it due to what I pointed out above - However that in itself doesn't mean it is the cause, just a possibility.

The real thing that I did catch was you are running an AIO instead of air, I'd think if using a proper AIO header to run the AIO the system would detect it and be OK but it's possible that board may be balking because it's not detecting a fan at the CPU fan header, refusing to boot due to it.

You can simply plug in a fan at that header and see if anything changes.

Any old fan that fits the CPU fan header will do for testing that and if it finally works you'd have to make changes in the BIOS setting it to ignore the CPU fan reading.

bettz · Jun 14, 2020

Sister gpu doesn't seem to be working in my PC does the same fans start then slow down

Bones said:
Noted something.
First off, if you're still using the RAM sticks you have that may or may not be the cause of it due to what I pointed out above - However that in itself doesn't mean it is the cause, just a possibility.

The real thing that I did catch was you are running an AIO instead of air, I'd think if using a proper AIO header to run the AIO the system would detect it and be OK but it's possible that board may be balking because it's not detecting a fan at the CPU fan header, refusing to boot due to it.

You can simply plug in a fan at that header and see if anything changes.

Any old fan that fits the CPU fan header will do for testing that and if it finally works you'd have to make changes in the BIOS setting it to ignore the CPU fan reading.

Ive got my air fan not sure if it'll fit the cpu now tho? I've got a Thermalright Ultra 120 eXtreme

Deleted member 197986 · Jun 14, 2020

"sister gpu doesn't seem to be working in my PC" - was there anything on your screen on your PC?

Nevertheless your sister's system not showing on the screen? Did you try CMOS reset (as advised earlier by Bones)?

bettz · Jun 14, 2020

StarExplorer said:
"sister gpu doesn't seem to be working in my PC" - was there anything on your screen on your PC?

It booted up but the graphics were shocking, pre gpu if that makes sense and I couldn't find the gpu in device management plus the fans stopped going on the gpu

Bones · Jun 14, 2020

StarExplorer said:
"sister gpu doesn't seem to be working in my PC" - was there anything on your screen on your PC?

Nevertheless your sister's system not showing on the screen? Did you try CMOS reset (as advised earlier by Bones)?

Actually a reset of the BIOS would not help, all that would do is make it start monitoring the CPU fan again once set to ignore it because it does that by default.
You'd want to set things so it ignores the CPU fan and then save your settings.

However since the GPU swap didn't change much of anything except it booted with weird graphics I'm beginning to think the board is defective in some way. Again, the deal with it's RAM could be a part of it but at this point, since it did boot and show something on the monitor that's probrably a non-issue in itself here.

As for a fan, any fan that can be plugged in that fits the CPU fan header will work, you can even use one of the case fans if it will reach this header - As long as the board is reading a "CPU fan" that will take care of the potential CPU fan detection problem. Essentially you're tricking the system into believing it has one plugged in and it will work provided that is the root of the problem here. Set it to ignore the fan, save and then you can unplug the fan once you've verified it's working and ignoring it.

If all else fails you may want to start looking into an RMA of the board.

I have to assume you've already taken care of it but if not, you may want to. I've circled where I saw a streak of TIM between two components on the board.

BTW, what is that in the RAM slot towards the bottom right of the pic?
Anything in the slot can make it not work.

bettz · Jun 14, 2020

Bones said:
Actually a reset of the BIOS would not help, all that would do is make it start monitoring the CPU fan again once set to ignore it because it does that by default.
You'd want to set things so it ignores the CPU fan and then save your settings.

However since the GPU swap didn't change much of anything except it booted with weird graphics I'm beginning to think the board is defective in some way. Again, the deal with it's RAM could be a part of it but at this point, since it did boot and show something on the monitor that's probrably a non-issue in itself here.

As for a fan, any fan that can be plugged in that fits the CPU fan header will work, you can even use one of the case fans if it will reach this header - As long as the board is reading a "CPU fan" that will take care of the potential CPU fan detection problem. Essentially you're tricking the system into believing it has one plugged in and it will work provided that is the root of the problem here. Set it to ignore the fan, save and then you can unplug the fan once you've verified it's working and ignoring it.

If all else fails you may want to start looking into an RMA of the board.

I have to assume you've already taken care of it but if not, you may want to. I've circled where I saw a streak of TIM between two components on the board.

BTW, what is that in the RAM slot towards the bottom right of the pic?
Anything in the slot can make it not work.

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Cheers the gpu didn't work in my PC. My PC booted fine but it the resolution was default it was as if it was before I'd installed the gpu.

Cheers I've cleaned up that paste.

There was something in the Dimm slot but it's gone now

I've got some old case fans would they work? So I just disconnect the aio and install the fan to the CPU and see if it boots up?

Disconnected the cooler and installed the fan

Powers up still nothing on the monitor the fans stay spinning for around a minute

Deleted member 197986 · Jun 14, 2020

Just wondering, maybe I missed it, but the power cable above the CPU, where does that go to the PSU?

bettz · Jun 14, 2020

StarExplorer said:
Just wondering, maybe I missed it, but the power cable above the CPU, where does that go to the PSU?

This one? Goes into the psu at the end

Bones · Jun 14, 2020

bettz said:
Cheers the gpu didn't work in my PC. My PC booted fine but it the resolution was default it was as if it was before I'd installed the gpu.

Cheers I've cleaned up that paste.

I've got some old case fans would they work? So I just disconnect the aio and install the fan to the CPU and see if it boots up?
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Disconnected the cooler and installed the fan

Powers up still nothing on the monitor the fans stay spinning for around a minute

No - leave the AIO connected, simply hook up the fan to the CPU fan header and try it.
If you don't you'll fry the CPU because the AIO needs to run for avoiding that.

Deleted member 197986 · Jun 14, 2020

bettz said:
This one? Goes into the psu at the end

That's fine (I missed in the previous picture).

Can/do you power on the system by pressing the button on the case (does that work)?

bettz · Jun 14, 2020

Bones said:
No - leave the AIO connected, simply hook up the fan to the CPU fan header and try it.
If you don't you'll fry the CPU because the AIO needs to run for avoiding that.

Hopefully this is what you meant?

Cpu fan vid

Still doing the same the gpu fans are starting & stopping

Deleted member 197986 · Jun 14, 2020

But... does it show something on the screen (start/stop can be maybe because the fans on GPU only work when higher load)

bettz · Jun 14, 2020

StarExplorer said:
But... does it show something on the screen (start/stop can be maybe because the fans on GPU only work when higher load)

No Its never showed anything on the monitor just asked sis and she's said the same all I get is hdmi not found

Deleted member 197986 · Jun 14, 2020

Although I think GPU is okey, I'm wondering what happens - and if it matters - if you connect the first PCIe connection of the PCIe cable to the GPU (now the last PCIe)

bettz · Jun 14, 2020

StarExplorer said:
Although I think GPU is okey, I'm wondering what happens - and if it matters - if you connect the first PCIe connection of the PCIe cable to the GPU (now the last PCIe)

Same thing happens :banghead:

Deleted member 197986 · Jun 14, 2020

Maybe try the following (again, imagining Ram A and Ram B):
1. plug only Ram A in slot 1 - test
2. plug only Ram A in slot 2 - test
3. plug only Ram B in slot 1 - test
4. plug only Ram B in slot 2 - test
5. plug Ram A in slot 1, Ram B in slot 2 - test
6. plug Ram B in slot 1, Ram A in slot 2 - test

bettz · Jun 14, 2020

StarExplorer said:
Maybe try the following (again, imagining Ram A and Ram B):
1. plug only Ram A in slot 1 - test
2. plug only Ram A in slot 2 - test
3. plug only Ram B in slot 1 - test
4. plug only Ram B in slot 2 - test
5. plug Ram A in slot 1, Ram B in slot 2 - test
6. plug Ram B in slot 1, Ram A in slot 2 - test

Ive only got 1 ram stick the others at her house, I've tried it in the other slot still the same do you think it's the motherboard?

I've got 4 sticks of DDR3 ram in my PC is it worth trying 1 of them? Would it be compatible

Deleted member 197986 · Jun 14, 2020

bettz said:
Ive only got 1 ram stick the others at her house, I've tried it in the other slot still the same do you think it's the motherboard?

I've got 4 sticks of DDR3 ram in my PC is it worth trying 1 of them? Would it be compatible

Not compatible. If I'm right yours is DDR3 and from your sister DDR4.

ereko · Jun 14, 2020

This might sound idiot but does the motherboard have the isolation with screws? My friend build a computer and he had same problem. When he drive it to me I spent to much time seeking the problem

bettz · Jun 14, 2020

ereko said:
This might sound idiot but does the motherboard have the isolation with screws? My friend build a computer and he had same problem. When he drive it to me I spent to much time seeking the problem

It's not the best pic but is this what you mean? I've installed the motherboard on the matx holes then used 4 the screws (top left) I've got here

The other pic is an attachment

ereko · Jun 14, 2020

bettz said:
It's not the best pic but is this what you mean? I've installed the motherboard on the matx holes then used 4 the screws (top left) I've got here

The other pic is an attachment

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There has to be something betweem motherboard and the bottom of the case. Can you took a photo from the bottom of the motherboard?

Deleted member 197986 · Jun 14, 2020

Did you try to connect to the PSU of your own system? Might be a hassle though with unplugging, plugging et cetera.

harm9963 · Jun 14, 2020

AIO, AMD CPU back plate with isolation pad , can you take a pic, my AMD back plate was backward, did cause issues on my new build.

bettz · Jun 14, 2020

StarExplorer said:
Did you try to connect to the PSU of your own system? Might be a hassle though with unplugging, plugging et cetera.

No I didn't try that as I took a look inside my case and thought no chance lol did remind me that I was supposed to buy a modular psu.

She sent the psu back as she originally thought that was the problem and they sent her a new one surely can't have had 2 bad psu's?

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System Name	Bella
Processor	AMD Ryzen 5 5600x
Motherboard	MSI MAG B550M
Cooling	SCYTHE SCMG-5100 Mugen
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB DDR4
Video Card(s)	Nvidia Geforce GTX1060
Storage	Western DIgital Caviar 250GB SATA & Crucial 256GB SSD
Display(s)	Asus VE247H
Case	Bitfenix Prodigy M
Power Supply	Be quiet 530w
Mouse	Logitech G502
Keyboard	Corsair STRAFE
Software	Windows 10

System Name	Bella
Processor	AMD Ryzen 5 5600x
Motherboard	MSI MAG B550M
Cooling	SCYTHE SCMG-5100 Mugen
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB DDR4
Video Card(s)	Nvidia Geforce GTX1060
Storage	Western DIgital Caviar 250GB SATA & Crucial 256GB SSD
Display(s)	Asus VE247H
Case	Bitfenix Prodigy M
Power Supply	Be quiet 530w
Mouse	Logitech G502
Keyboard	Corsair STRAFE
Software	Windows 10

Processor	Ryzen 2600
Motherboard	X470 Tachi Ultimate
Cooling	AM3+ Wraith CPU cooler
Memory	C.R.S.
Video Card(s)	GTX 970
Software	Linux Peppermint 10
Benchmark Scores	Never high enough

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