How much over MSRP are you willing to spend on your graphics card?

[dirtyferret]

Your entire argument is basically "people who only upgrade every 5-6+ years don't care about playing modern games"

If you can't see how absurd that logic is, there's no point discussing further. Some people will and some won't. For those that will, paying >MSRP is not an unreasonable possibility.

Not really surprising you failed to understand my point (it's not an argument) which is;

"people who only upgrade every 5-6+ years

are more likely than not already fine with

1080p medium settings 30fps

especially if they are only two years into that cycle and getting much better results than what you mentioned above. As well as the absurdity of anyone stating to anyone else that their gaming enjoyment

doesn't count.

because it doesn't meet your specific desire of performance.

 

[Sithaer]

Not really surprising you failed to understand my point (it's not an argument) which is;



are more likely than not already fine with



especially if they are only two years into that cycle and getting much better results than what you mentioned above. As well as the absurdity of anyone stating to anyone else that their gaming enjoyment


because it doesn't meet your specific desire of performance.

Yeah I've seen this being thrown around a few times and it still boggles my mind especially since I am a budget gamer in general. 'never spent more than ~250$ on a GPU so far'

Never had issues enjoying my gametime as long as the gameplay itself is fun, give me ~45 FPS/medium ish settings with no big stutters and I will play anything pretty much. 'Except for competitive games cause I'm not interested in those'
Like others gonna tell me how I should enjoy my games and if its not how they do then I can't possibly have fun, right?

For what its worth there is like 1 game I'm interested in but unable to play on my RX 570 and that is Horizon Zero Dawn cause it has some weird texture issues on some 4GB AMD cards, FPS wise I would be fine but I can't stand texture issues in any game. 'coming from someone who mods older games with texture mods if possible'
Already put houndreds of hours into Borderlands 3 with my current rig since it was relased and I woulnd't call that a too old game.

 

[lemoncarbonate]

Americans may never understand this, but paying over MSRP is like the normal thing in Asian countries, especially for high end graphic cards.
I mean, even before this price inflation happened, >US$900 and $1700 is the normal price for the cheapest Zotac 3080 and 3090.

What's MSRP? We know no MSRP.

 

[Chrispy_]

Up until about six months ago, all independent reviews evaluated products as good or bad based on performance/$.

The old proverb "there are no bad products, only bad prices" is relevant to GPUs; As long as a GPU works, it produces a fixed amount of performance/noise/heat and how good or bad a GPU is therefore depends almost entirely on its price.

Current pricing madness means that despite reviewers claiming that Ampere and RDNA2 cards are good at MSRP, they are poor at realistic prices. Performance/$ is rock-bottom, and for this generation they have the prerequisite of a high-end PSU which is another overpriced/scalped/supply-constrained part.

Getting an Ampere or RDNA2 card right now is a gauntlet of challenges, all at a premium cost, to end up with a product that will still be leveraged by only a tiny fraction of current games. With the exception of Cyberpunk's total coding mess, there are almost no titles available now that are running exclusively on next-gen game engines. Your 2018-era GPU can handle today's games as they are largely the same generation of tech that games released 3+ years ago were using. You can thank the consoles for being in the "wait for next-gen" holding pattern during that period, as well as next-gen PC graphics features being ignored by AMD entirely and priced outside of the mass-market, and therefore outside the concern for most game developers with Turing.

 

[Trompochi]

MSRP, nada over that. I only hope my current gpu stays in working condition for at least 3+ years, I have never mined on it and never will.

 

[trog100]

MSRP prices are based on supply meeting demand.. when supply dosnt meet demand MSRP prices are utterly meaningless..

trog

 

[64K]

Gamers are stuck between a rock and a hard place. The miners will dwindle away eventually but there is a more pressing issue. Scalpers. There are crazy profits to be made by them. They are not going away until/unless they are forced to. They have boosted prices to ridiculous levels to leach off of the miners gambles for now but when cryptocurrency takes it's next dive they will still be here.

The next generation from Nvidia and AMD will be the same. If you want to upgrade ever then plan to pay the scalper's price.

 

[trog100]

Gamers are stuck between a rock and a hard place. The miners will dwindle away eventually but there is a more pressing issue. Scalpers. There are crazy profits to be made by them. They are not going away until/unless they are forced to. They have boosted prices to ridiculous levels to leach off of the miners gambles for now but when cryptocurrency takes it's next dive they will still be here.

The next generation from Nvidia and AMD will be the same. If you want to upgrade ever then plan to pay the scalper's price.

prices are forced up by supply not meeting demand.. Ebay is a true free market price discovery mechanism.. in simple terms this means that anybody who for whatever reasons manages to get their hands on the under supplied product bungs it on ebay where it finds its true free market price.. this situation will continue as long as the product remains under supplied..

a true price is what enough people are prepared to pay to absorb whatever supply there is at any given time..

i am a miner and a gamer.. the price i am prepared to pay is definitely influenced more by the money i can make mining with a card than it is the fun i can get gaming with the same card..

the bottom line here is a simple one.. the average miner for obvious reasons will pay more for a high end graphics card than the average gamer will.. but the real problem is under supply.. not enough cards are being made..

trog

ps.. i have a couple of 3080 cards.. one i had to pay higher than the recommended price for and the other i had to buy a complete pre-built gaming machine to get.. the pre-build cost less than the ebay price just for the graphics card.. they are both mining and producing around $10 dollars each per day.. in about six months whatever i spent will more than come back..

 

[Unter_Dog]

Depends on what you mean by MSRP, NVIDIAs or the AIBs? I bought a FTW 3 from EVGA at their MSRP

 

[birdie]

Sorry, I really dislike this poll.

For me and millions of people it's not about how much of MSRP or above MSRP we're willing to spend - it's about how much we can afford.

I will probably never buy a GPU which costs more than $300 because it's too effing expensive and also I hate GPUs which have a high TBP (above 150W) because I cannot afford water cooling. Of course my PoV is unlikely to find a lot of support on a website dedicated to enthusiasts but I just want people to understand that the world doesn't revolve around your purchasing power - just open Steam HW survey and you'll see how many people can afford GPUs which cost above $300. Hint: less than 10%.

This whole RTX 3000 series and RX 6000 series situation is not a concern for absolute most GPU buyers out there. They simply don't care and they are waiting for more affordable GPUs which no company has released yet. The RTX 3060 for $330? Give me a break! It's not a midrange GPU! It's $80 more expensive than a midrange GPU.

Both NVIDIA and AMD have gone overboard with their pricing. The economical crisis we've found ourselves in means people are even more unlikely to buy more expensive GPUs however the GPU companies have a different opinion: they just do not release more affordable GPUs.

NVIDIA's last affordable midrange GPU? The GTX 1660 Super released 1.5 years ago.
AMD's last affordable midrange GPU? The RX 5600 XT released over a year ago.

 

[Yttersta]

The concept of MSRP being an absolute price has never existed in my life as I always lived in or around Europe. If I pick a card and want to buy, I obviously won't buy it as long as it is doubly priced but to get something at MSRP after currency exchanges and taxes this side of the pond is a dream really. It's always, at least +10% USD to USD priced.

 

[_UV_]

Well, considering that MSRP means nothing these days and haven't for a couple of generations, the question of the poll is a bit flawed.
MSRP only means something if you live in the US and can get your hands of whatever reference design that Nvidia or AMD sells.
If memory serves, the board makers said they can't make any money if they had to sell current gen cards from either company at MSRP, so the board maker MSRP pricing jumped up a good 20% for starters, including AMD reference boards.
Then the custom designs arrived that were at least 25% more expensive than the MSRP and then shortage really took off and now most cards are double the MSRP.
One of the shops here that have had stock for quite some time, just added 50% to all their cards today, I mean
I have never seen anything like this and it's getting to the point of insanity and for what? So people can waste a ton of electricity on crunching numbers on their GPU's for some fake currency?

I've paid more than MSRP my entire life for computer parts, taxes not included, but this, this is some new kind of BS.

MSRP includes marketing, logistics, profit for distributors and retail. That's why they can easy make up to 50% sales on winter holidays or near EOL before releasing new generation of hardware or year after that. So statement about "board makers said they can't make any money" total BS.

 

[TheLostSwede]

MSRP includes marketing, logistics, profit for distributors and retail. That's why they can easy make up to 50% sales on winter holidays or near EOL before releasing new generation of hardware or year after that. So statement about "board makers said they can't make any money" total BS.

Nvidia and AMD MSRP, as the board makers said that it was way too low this time around. Not the board makers own MSRP which is much higher this time around.

 

[trog100]

a 3080 gpu will generate $10 per day mining with nicehash.. $70 per week.. $280 per month or $3640 per year..

not every person will do this but the sensible ones will..

now taking all this into account what is the real value or what is a 3080 gpu worth.. all i am gonna say is.. a f-ck site more than any theoretical MSRP price..

trog

 

[Yukikaze]

The comment about the MSRP itself not being entirely relevant here is on the money: People will pay what they can/want to pay. For me, that's about 400-450$ for a video card. The last time I did this I bought a used GTX1080Ti a few years ago. It will keep serving me until I can get twice the performance for about the same 450-500$. Between having 1080p, 1600p and 2160p as my resolution options, I can play all I want to play.

The inflated prices can go and make love to themselves.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

MSRP, found my 3070 at MSRP, wouldn't have bought it otherwise.

 

[WholesomeGuy69]

I used to shoplift mine from Fry's....I don't know what I'm going to do now

 

[wolf]

In Australia, we tend to get screwed no matter what, but assuming MSRP meant I could get the likes of a founders/reference model, I'd happily pay up to 25% (max, 10-20% would be preferable) more for one with a greatly improved cooler/extra features.

This with the caveat that I usually buy in the upper midrange/high end, so the next cards up are generally 50%++ more expensive for ~5-20% more performance.

Going off that clause, if I had a theoretical choice between a top-of-the-range 3070 for $600-650 or the founders 3080 @$699, I'd take the 3080, for instance. And on the same token, a top of the range (air cooled) 3080 for $800-850 or 3090 @$1499 MSRP... the top range 3080.

Typing out that pipedream filled me with sadness.

 

[Melvis]

None as I bought second hand which murdered the Price performance over the new GPU's.

 

[RandAlThor]

I play 1440p on a 960 4GB. World of warships, frostpunk, No mans sky, etc.

"Modern games" ? You mean the bugfest that is cyberpunk or something else? There are no good modern games that would excuse buying an overpriced GPU.

 

[maxfly]

My vote was for nothing above msrp. That is only for my main rig. The rest of my gpu purchases are always used so well below that.
I never leave myself in a position of not having at least two fully functional graphics cards on hand at all times. I despise having to rush out to find a part because my rig is out of commission. Much like psus you can never have enough gpus but you can always find yourself up the creek if you dont have a solid back up.

 

[trog100]

UK ebay which is the only true free market price discovery mechanism at the moment says a 3080 gpu is worth £1750.. they are actually selling for this.. at this price supply meets demand..

this price is set by people who will mine the cards.. the high purchase price will come back within six months..

trog

 

[Chrispy_]

UK ebay which is the only true free market price discovery mechanism at the moment says a 3080 gpu is worth £1750.. they are actually selling for this.. at this price supply meets demand..

this price is set by people who will mine the cards.. the high purchase price will come back within six months..

trog

I just sold a couple of vanilla 5700 cards for £800 each.
It's so stupid that I'm tempted to sell my 5700XT too, because I can get away with using an old GTX980 I have lying around on that machine.
I even have a vega56 kicking around at the moment that I pre-ordered at launch and paid £379 for. I can probably turn a profit on that even though it's been gathering dust for years....

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Yep good time to sell old cards glad I picked up a 980ti for 150.us 6.. months ago pissed I didn't get two... lol

 

[SuperTweaker]

I am new here. Hello everyone.

This discussion appeared in a search when I was looking at GPU prices. My vote on purchasing a video card is based on 20 years of building computers for myself and family. Today's (out of stock) and high prices on video cards is worse than ever. I am using a GTX 1070 Ti which I bought in 2017 for $530.00 from Amazon (new). That card new today is double the price, if you can find it. I don't blame the manufacturers for this crazy market; I blame it on scalpers and bitcoin miners. Such a waste of money IMHO for people to persue this notion that crypto-currency is going to make them rich. Gamers and other types of PC users who need powerful video cards really get the wind knocked out of us when we see these prices. It's just sad. I am glad I do not need a new video card ATM and even more fortunate that I have a used GTX 1080 X for a backup. Glad I am not in the market for a new card; I feel badly for those who really need one.

My system plays all my games and does all my work fast and reliably. I doubt I will build a new computer for several more years.

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