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Processor | AMD Ryzen 5600X PBO |
Motherboard | Asus Prime X570-P |
Cooling | EKWB AIO 240MM Push-Pull fans |
Memory | Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 4000 32GB (4x8) @4066 CL16, Custom Timings |
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Storage | Kingston A2000 500GB + Toshiba 1TB HDD |
Display(s) | Samsung 24" S24D300 + 2x LG LED 24" |
Case | Cooler Master H500 |
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Mouse | Cooler Master Master Keys Lite |
Keyboard | Cooler Master Master Keys Lite |
Software | Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit |
Already done these A2s are no joke
It's really interesting to see how tRFC behaves in the presence of an iGPU. I can pass endless TM5 runs @ 133ns without moving VDIMM even an inch, but the GPU really doesn't like it. 130ns no POST. 133ns tests stable but crashes instantly opening a game. 135ns test stable, runs for a while until throwing a UNEXPECTED_KERNEL_MODE_TRAP. 138ns (290) works just fine though.
It was the same with the A0s, tRFC went all the way down to 140ns stable but only about 143-145ns was actually iGPU stable.
On the A0s I couldn't do tRRDL 4, tWTRL 8 or tWR 10 without needing more VDIMM, not yet sure if it's the same here. I'll probably play with tRTP next.
@FilipM that reminds me, the old GDM vs 2T debate seems to be rather interesting. 2T is *sometimes* faster in membench by half a second or so. But GDM consistently wins in AIDA read/write by about 500MB/s and copy by about 200MB/s. GDM might also be leading to better GPU performance, but I'll need to bench that.
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Processor | 7800X3D┃5800X3D |
Motherboard | B650E PG-ITX┃X570 Impact |
Cooling | NH-U12A + T30┃AXP120-x67 |
Memory | 64GB 6400CL32┃32GB 3600CL14 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 4070 Ti Eagle┃RTX A2000 |
Storage | 8TB of SSDs┃1TB SN550 |
Case | Caselabs S3┃Lazer3D HT5 |
If you have the time to do some cpu benchies and game runs, please share
Processor | 7800X3D 2x16GB CO |
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Motherboard | Asrock B650m HDV |
Cooling | Peerless Assassin SE |
Memory | 2x16GB DR A-die@6000c30 tuned |
Video Card(s) | Asus 4070 dual OC 2610@915mv |
Storage | WD blue 1TB nvme |
Display(s) | Lenovo G24-10 144Hz |
Case | Corsair D4000 Airflow |
Power Supply | EVGA GQ 650W |
Software | Windows 10 home 64 |
Benchmark Scores | Superposition 8k 5267 Aida64 58.5ns |
If I remember correctly gdm makes tCL, tCWL, tWR and tRTP even values. If one of them is odd then 2T would probably give better performance.Unfortunately it's going to be hard to bench Genshin until I can set up RTSS properly, but in the meantime Valley works well.
AIDA GDM vs 2T:
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Membench GDM vs 2T:
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Valley GDM vs 2T:
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So yeah, mostly placebo in gaming but definitely faster than the A0s at 4200 17-18-18:
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Processor | 7800X3D 2x16GB CO |
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Motherboard | Asrock B650m HDV |
Cooling | Peerless Assassin SE |
Memory | 2x16GB DR A-die@6000c30 tuned |
Video Card(s) | Asus 4070 dual OC 2610@915mv |
Storage | WD blue 1TB nvme |
Display(s) | Lenovo G24-10 144Hz |
Case | Corsair D4000 Airflow |
Power Supply | EVGA GQ 650W |
Software | Windows 10 home 64 |
Benchmark Scores | Superposition 8k 5267 Aida64 58.5ns |
Yes, single chiplets like 5600X and 5800X get half speed vs 2 chiplets. Test dram calc to tweak your scores. 10ns lower latency with just ramtuning and a bit more speed should workThat write speed i get is normal? This on an Asus X570 TUF
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System Name | ab┃ob |
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Processor | 7800X3D┃5800X3D |
Motherboard | B650E PG-ITX┃X570 Impact |
Cooling | NH-U12A + T30┃AXP120-x67 |
Memory | 64GB 6400CL32┃32GB 3600CL14 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 4070 Ti Eagle┃RTX A2000 |
Storage | 8TB of SSDs┃1TB SN550 |
Case | Caselabs S3┃Lazer3D HT5 |
Sometimes tWR 10 and tRTP 5 works, that gave me a slight boost without requiring more voltage. tRRDL 6 and tWTRL 10 or 8 might work aswell
Processor | 7800X3D 2x16GB CO |
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Motherboard | Asrock B650m HDV |
Cooling | Peerless Assassin SE |
Memory | 2x16GB DR A-die@6000c30 tuned |
Video Card(s) | Asus 4070 dual OC 2610@915mv |
Storage | WD blue 1TB nvme |
Display(s) | Lenovo G24-10 144Hz |
Case | Corsair D4000 Airflow |
Power Supply | EVGA GQ 650W |
Software | Windows 10 home 64 |
Benchmark Scores | Superposition 8k 5267 Aida64 58.5ns |
Okay, tried 12/6 or 10/5 tWR/tRTP? Those timings affect perf more.Unfortunately anything below 4/6/16 - 4/12/12 requires more VDIMM to stabilize, and it's looking like 0.02V or more at 4/4/16 - 4/8/10. 4/4/16 - 4/8/10, 4/6/16 - 4/8/10, 4/4/16 - 4/10/10, it's all the same: needs more VDIMM. It was a difference of like 300MB/s copy perf, no latency or membench improvement.
I know a lot of ppl run 4/4/16 - 4/8/10 and I remember BZ saying in a more recent video that the tighter timings shouldn't need extra voltage, but I suppose that's not the case.
My A0 B-die, 4Gb E-die and CJR also can't tighten past 4/6/16 - 4/12/12 without more voltage. Was hoping the better B-die could buck that trend somehow, but oh well.
Processor | AMD R7 5800X3D |
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Motherboard | Asus Crosshair VIII Dark Hero |
Cooling | Thermalright Frozen Edge 360, 3x TL-B12 V2, 2x TL-B12 V1 |
Memory | 2x8 G.Skill Trident Z Royal 3200C14, 2x8GB G.Skill Trident Z Black and White 3200 C14 |
Video Card(s) | Zotac 4070 Ti Trinity OC |
Storage | WD SN850 1TB, SN850X 2TB, SN770 1TB |
Display(s) | LG 50UP7100 |
Case | Fractal Torrent Compact |
Audio Device(s) | JBL Bar 700 |
Power Supply | Seasonic Vertex GX-1000, Monster HDP1800 |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Hero |
Keyboard | Logitech G213 |
VR HMD | Oculus 3 |
Software | Yes |
Benchmark Scores | Yes |
Processor | 7800X3D 2x16GB CO |
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Motherboard | Asrock B650m HDV |
Cooling | Peerless Assassin SE |
Memory | 2x16GB DR A-die@6000c30 tuned |
Video Card(s) | Asus 4070 dual OC 2610@915mv |
Storage | WD blue 1TB nvme |
Display(s) | Lenovo G24-10 144Hz |
Case | Corsair D4000 Airflow |
Power Supply | EVGA GQ 650W |
Software | Windows 10 home 64 |
Benchmark Scores | Superposition 8k 5267 Aida64 58.5ns |
Zentimings? Pbo? Safemode?
Processor | AMD R7 5800X3D |
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Motherboard | Asus Crosshair VIII Dark Hero |
Cooling | Thermalright Frozen Edge 360, 3x TL-B12 V2, 2x TL-B12 V1 |
Memory | 2x8 G.Skill Trident Z Royal 3200C14, 2x8GB G.Skill Trident Z Black and White 3200 C14 |
Video Card(s) | Zotac 4070 Ti Trinity OC |
Storage | WD SN850 1TB, SN850X 2TB, SN770 1TB |
Display(s) | LG 50UP7100 |
Case | Fractal Torrent Compact |
Audio Device(s) | JBL Bar 700 |
Power Supply | Seasonic Vertex GX-1000, Monster HDP1800 |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Hero |
Keyboard | Logitech G213 |
VR HMD | Oculus 3 |
Software | Yes |
Benchmark Scores | Yes |
Whoops sorry!Zentimings? Pbo? Safemode?
Processor | AMD R7 5800X3D |
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Motherboard | Asus Crosshair VIII Dark Hero |
Cooling | Thermalright Frozen Edge 360, 3x TL-B12 V2, 2x TL-B12 V1 |
Memory | 2x8 G.Skill Trident Z Royal 3200C14, 2x8GB G.Skill Trident Z Black and White 3200 C14 |
Video Card(s) | Zotac 4070 Ti Trinity OC |
Storage | WD SN850 1TB, SN850X 2TB, SN770 1TB |
Display(s) | LG 50UP7100 |
Case | Fractal Torrent Compact |
Audio Device(s) | JBL Bar 700 |
Power Supply | Seasonic Vertex GX-1000, Monster HDP1800 |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Hero |
Keyboard | Logitech G213 |
VR HMD | Oculus 3 |
Software | Yes |
Benchmark Scores | Yes |
Processor | AMD R7 5800X3D |
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Motherboard | Asus Crosshair VIII Dark Hero |
Cooling | Thermalright Frozen Edge 360, 3x TL-B12 V2, 2x TL-B12 V1 |
Memory | 2x8 G.Skill Trident Z Royal 3200C14, 2x8GB G.Skill Trident Z Black and White 3200 C14 |
Video Card(s) | Zotac 4070 Ti Trinity OC |
Storage | WD SN850 1TB, SN850X 2TB, SN770 1TB |
Display(s) | LG 50UP7100 |
Case | Fractal Torrent Compact |
Audio Device(s) | JBL Bar 700 |
Power Supply | Seasonic Vertex GX-1000, Monster HDP1800 |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Hero |
Keyboard | Logitech G213 |
VR HMD | Oculus 3 |
Software | Yes |
Benchmark Scores | Yes |
Processor | 7800X3D 2x16GB CO |
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Motherboard | Asrock B650m HDV |
Cooling | Peerless Assassin SE |
Memory | 2x16GB DR A-die@6000c30 tuned |
Video Card(s) | Asus 4070 dual OC 2610@915mv |
Storage | WD blue 1TB nvme |
Display(s) | Lenovo G24-10 144Hz |
Case | Corsair D4000 Airflow |
Power Supply | EVGA GQ 650W |
Software | Windows 10 home 64 |
Benchmark Scores | Superposition 8k 5267 Aida64 58.5ns |
I have done a lot of rev E tweaking on single rank that is. Post your zentimings and I can try to help you if you want?Micron E Die dual rank (32gb 3200mhz Ballistix Sport), subtimings seem to need to be pretty loose. Still getting WHEA errors at 2000mhz IF though, tried all kinds of voltages up to 1.2v SOC, no luck.
1900/3800 seems all good though at SOC 1.125v and can set 1T with GD disabled, still have some optimizing to do though.
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Set tRAS to 32, tWR to 12 or 14, tFAW to 16 or 20 and try tRFC to 282 or 329. That should speed things up very much!
Sure, I did have to loosen some timings but I was able to tighten others. I can't seem to get much lower than 600 on tRFC, it won't even post most of the time at 554. 15 on tRDCWR and tRP was causing major stability problems, as did tRAS at 32. My board makes it a pain because I have to manually reset the bios every time it fails to post and lose all my settings, it will recover maybe 1 out of 10 times.I have done a lot of rev E tweaking on single rank that is. Post your zentimings and I can try to help you if you want?
Processor | 7800X3D 2x16GB CO |
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Motherboard | Asrock B650m HDV |
Cooling | Peerless Assassin SE |
Memory | 2x16GB DR A-die@6000c30 tuned |
Video Card(s) | Asus 4070 dual OC 2610@915mv |
Storage | WD blue 1TB nvme |
Display(s) | Lenovo G24-10 144Hz |
Case | Corsair D4000 Airflow |
Power Supply | EVGA GQ 650W |
Software | Windows 10 home 64 |
Benchmark Scores | Superposition 8k 5267 Aida64 58.5ns |
Okay. Safe suggestions: Try tRAS 34 (tCL+tRCDRD) and tRFC 580 or 590, tRRDS 5, tRRDL 7, tFAW 20, tWR 12, tRTP 8 or 6, tWTRS 4, tWTRL 12.Sure, I did have to loosen some timings but I was able to tighten others. I can't seem to get much lower than 600 on tRFC, it won't even post most of the time at 554. 15 on tRDCWR and tRP was causing major stability problems, as did tRAS at 32. My board makes it a pain because I have to manually reset the bios every time it fails to post and lose all my settings, it will recover maybe 1 out of 10 times.
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Thanks, that will give me some more values to try. Currently at 1.4v on the ram.Okay. Safe suggestions: Try tRAS 34 (tCL+tRCDRD) and tRFC 580 or 590, tRRDS 5, tRRDL 7, tFAW 20, tWR 12, tRTP 8 or 6, tWTRS 4, tWTRL 12.
Fast: tRFC 570 or 560, tRRDS 4, tRRDL 6, tFAW 16, tWR 10, tRTP 5, tWTRS 4, tWTRL 8 or 10.
What ram voltage are you running? If 1.45V or above I would consider tRCDRD 20, then you can often lower tRP by 1 or 2.