WCG-TPU Cruncher's Hardware/Tech Support Discussion Thread

PaulieG · Jun 24, 2021

So, currently I'm running the following the following cpu's to crunch: Three 5950x's, a 5600g a 10850k and an old 3rd gen i7 mobile cpu, but I can't remember which specific chip. Not really doing any gpu work units. I'm averaging 108k points. Does this sound right or does it seem a bit on the low side for the cpu's I'm running?

mstenholm · Jun 24, 2021

PaulieG said:
So, currently I'm running the following the following cpu's to crunch: Three 5950x's, a 5600g a 10850k and an old 3rd gen i7 mobile cpu, but I can't remember which specific chip. Not really doing any gpu work units. I'm averaging 108k points. Does this sound right or does it seem a bit on the low side for the cpu's I'm running?

If you get 1000 points/day per thread then all is good, GPU work excluded but as you say you don’t get any

PaulieG · Jun 24, 2021

mstenholm said:
If you get 1000 points/day per thread then all is good, GPU work excluded but as you say you don’t get any

At 1000 points per day, I should be averaging 128k per day. So I'm underperforming. Troubleshooting tips?

mstenholm · Jun 24, 2021

PaulieG said:
At 1000 points per day, I should be averaging 128k per day. So I'm underperforming. Troubleshooting tips?

If you go for points then make four different profiles and run OPN in one, MCM in a second and a mix of the rest in the last two. Assign the four profiles the your rigs, let them run for 2 weeks and calculate points/hour for the different projects/OS/CPU and the go for the best. OR look at your points and avoid the worst projects.

Edit: @PaulieG did you make the calculation?
This is mine for the past two (three) days

06/25/2021 is just one OPN on my 3900X, stock, Linux, the others a mix of 2700X and 3900X and a tiny bit of a Intel 1.70 GHz Pentium, Win10.
Pure OPN is 1240 points/thread, the two other a more respectable 3421 and 2781 points. I'm sure that you are doing better than 1000/thread with your arsenal of CPUs.

Disclaimer: I'm on oxycodone after a bicycle crash and a broken femur so the head is working less than 100% and the results could be off.

phill · Jul 12, 2021

mstenholm said:
If you go for points then make four different profiles and run OPN in one, MCM in a second and a mix of the rest in the last two. Assign the four profiles the your rigs, let them run for 2 weeks and calculate points/hour for the different projects/OS/CPU and the go for the best. OR look at your points and avoid the worst projects.

Edit: @PaulieG did you make the calculation?
This is mine for the past two (three) days
View attachment 205353
06/25/2021 is just one OPN on my 3900X, stock, Linux, the others a mix of 2700X and 3900X and a tiny bit of a Intel 1.70 GHz Pentium, Win10.
Pure OPN is 1240 points/thread, the two other a more respectable 3421 and 2781 points. I'm sure that you are doing better than 1000/thread with your arsenal of CPUs.

Disclaimer: I'm on oxycodone after a bicycle crash and a broken femur so the head is working less than 100% and the results could be off.

I hope that you are alright @mstenholm!! So annoyed with myself I never came in sooner and caught up with the later posts

PolRoger · Jul 16, 2021

I used to always run WCG with service installation... So no GPU work.

I recently decided to test the waters with a GPU cruncher on a single rig. I've been trying to configure my setup. I've modified my WCG Web preferences to allow for Nvidia GPU work and Beta work for OPNG. I also created a config file for 8 concurrent jobs (8 max /.125 gpu /1 cpu) in the C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\www.worldcommunitygrid.org folder.

I have only seen just a few (~2/3) GPU work units come through?? They ran quickly, completed and dropped off. I'm not sure if some of my settings may be off but I like to try and get more GPU work running on this setup (see System Specs) for testing purposes and to build up my knowledge base regarding GPU crunching.

thebluebumblebee · Jul 16, 2021

@PolRoger , GPU units are hit and miss, and judging by the numbers that people are getting, it's more miss than hit lately.

mstenholm · Jul 16, 2021

@PolRoger since you already got a few OPNG units we know that your setup is correct. The problem that we all have is that there are limited supply. I tried three days in a row not to receive a single one in the 4-6 hours that particular PC was on. The other two got around 50-60/day in the same periode. So just leave it at current setting and check again tomorrow.

yotano211 · Jul 17, 2021

I get a few gpu work units every 2-4 days, I usually get about 4-6.

phill · Jul 17, 2021

Looking at my stats for the day, I've had a total of 5, not massively high scorers either, about 600 to no more than 700 points each

TRWOV · Jul 23, 2021

Anyone knows if an HD7850 is still good for GPU units? I think it has OpenCL1.2 support but I don't know what the GPU work units require.

mstenholm · Jul 23, 2021

TRWOV said:
Anyone knows if an HD7850 is still good for GPU units? I think it has OpenCL1.2 support but I don't know what the GPU work units require.

If it has 1.2 support it should be good. Try to re-start WCG and read the top 5-15 lines here (Shift+Ctrl+E). If it has 1.2 it will tell and show some GFlops numbers for your GPU. Be aware that there are only a very limited number around.

thebluebumblebee · Jul 23, 2021

TRWOV said:
Anyone knows if an HD7850 is still good for GPU units? I think it has OpenCL1.2 support but I don't know what the GPU work units require.

It should work, my 7770 did.

Jacky_BEL · Aug 2, 2021

How do "points generated" on the WCG website translate to the points on the Free-DC website?
I have seen for some days now that Free-DC shows a fair amount less points than my WCG stats.
I have 4 PC's running. Do I need to somehow manually assign additional PC's to the TPU team.

mstenholm · Aug 2, 2021

@Jacky_BEL
Your four CPUs:

User Stats for in World Community Grid

There is a factor seven between the WCG points and the “normal” points.

Lorec · Aug 2, 2021

TRWOV said:
Anyone knows if an HD7850 is still good for GPU units? I think it has OpenCL1.2 support but I don't know what the GPU work units require.

my hd 7970 is trucking away!

mstenholm · Aug 2, 2021

Lorec said:
my hd 7970 is trucking away!

This is racing then :eek:

World Community Grid Project Stats

Nortons 7800 series maxed out at 264K the other day.

phill · Aug 11, 2021

Hey guys and gals, I was just wondering.... Does anyone have/use an Asus Strix B450-F Gaming board at all for their crunchers or main rig?? I've had a few looks into these and they seem to be pretty decent boards from what I understand... Just wondering if anyone is having a good/bad/meh experience with one

Reason for asking is simple, I'm looking to grab one to put in the giveaway for the team.... I'd like it to be something decent, don't want to give away any sort of crap regardless

KLiKzg · Sep 5, 2021

Jacky_BEL said:
How do "points generated" on the WCG website translate to the points on the Free-DC website?
I have seen for some days now that Free-DC shows a fair amount less points than my WCG stats.
I have 4 PC's running. Do I need to somehow manually assign additional PC's to the TPU team.

Free-DC evaluate stats based on BOINC points system (or RAC).
WCG has its own system, as the "UD grid device agent" had different points system.

But it all comes down to 1 BOINC point = 7 WGC points. :cool:

thebluebumblebee · Oct 20, 2021

Setting up a new dedicated system for WCG/maybe F@H. For what we do, W10 Home or Pro? I'm expecting to use remote access eventually.

TheoneandonlyMrK · Oct 20, 2021

thebluebumblebee said:
Setting up a new dedicated system for WCG/maybe F@H. For what we do, W10 Home or Pro? I'm expecting to use remote access eventually.

I always use Google Chrome remote access now, it's good for a pop in , you may prefer your way though I think home supports remoting in though, for user help purposes.

HammerON · Oct 20, 2021

thebluebumblebee said:
Setting up a new dedicated system for WCG/maybe F@H. For what we do, W10 Home or Pro? I'm expecting to use remote access eventually.

I use Pro. Don't know if it really matters though. What will the new system contain (components)?

thebluebumblebee · Oct 20, 2021

HammerON said:
I use Pro. Don't know if it really matters though. What will the new system contain (components)?

Total CL parts including a 3700X

80-watt Hamster · Oct 20, 2021

thebluebumblebee said:
Setting up a new dedicated system for WCG/maybe F@H. For what we do, W10 Home or Pro? I'm expecting to use remote access eventually.

If you're willing to ride the learning curve, maybe try Linux? Otherwise W10 Pro for RDP.

KLiKzg · Oct 20, 2021

On Win you can always use FREEware program to prevent overheating, like Tthrottle.

On Linux, you would have to program it.

Processor	5800x(2)/5700g/5600x/5600g/2700x/1700x/1700
Motherboard	MSI B550 Carbon (2)/ MSI z490 Unify/Asus Strix B550-F/MSI B450 Tomahawk (3)
Cooling	EK AIO 360 (2)/EK AIO 240, Arctic Cooling Freezer II 280/EVGA CLC 280/Noctua D15/Cryorig M9(2)
Memory	32 GB Ballistix Elite/32 GB TridentZ/16GB Mushkin Redline Black/16 GB Dominator
Video Card(s)	Asus Strix RTX3060/EVGA 970(2)/Asus 750 ti/Old Quadros
Storage	Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe 500GB/WD Black M.2 NVMe 500GB/Adata 500gb NVMe
Display(s)	Acer 1080p 22"/ (3) Samsung 22" 1080p
Case	(2) Lian Li Lancool II Mesh/Corsair 4000D /Phanteks Eclipse 500a/Be Quiet Pure Base 500/Bones of HAF
Power Supply	EVGA Supernova 850G(2)/EVGA Supernova GT 650w/Phantek Amps 750w/Seasonic Focus 750w
Mouse	Generic Black wireless (5)
Keyboard	Generic Black wireless (5)
Software	Win 10/Ubuntu

System Name	The work PC /2700x/5950x
Processor	3900X stock/ 2700x stock/ 5950x 4200 MHz fixed @ 1,056-1,08V
Motherboard	Gigabyte AORUS Master X570/2xMSI X470 M7 AC
Cooling	Custom WC XSPC RX480, Laing DDC, XSPC Laing DDC Top V3 and EK Velocity/NH15/NH-U12S SE
Memory	32 GB Viper 3600/14 /16 GB Trident Z F4-4000C18D-16GTZSW 3600 /32 GB G Skill Flare CL14 3400
Video Card(s)	2070 Super X MSI/GTX 970 MSI/ GTX 970 MSI
Storage	1 TB SSD+500 GB NVMe / 500 GB SSD/ 2 TB 990 Pro
Display(s)	Dell UltraSharp U2518D/2408WFP
Case	Corsair 800D / Lian test bench/NZXT 500
Power Supply	AX 850 Titanium/AX 860i/AX 760
Software	Dual boot/Win 10 / Linux / Win 10+Linux

Processor	5800x(2)/5700g/5600x/5600g/2700x/1700x/1700
Motherboard	MSI B550 Carbon (2)/ MSI z490 Unify/Asus Strix B550-F/MSI B450 Tomahawk (3)
Cooling	EK AIO 360 (2)/EK AIO 240, Arctic Cooling Freezer II 280/EVGA CLC 280/Noctua D15/Cryorig M9(2)
Memory	32 GB Ballistix Elite/32 GB TridentZ/16GB Mushkin Redline Black/16 GB Dominator
Video Card(s)	Asus Strix RTX3060/EVGA 970(2)/Asus 750 ti/Old Quadros
Storage	Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe 500GB/WD Black M.2 NVMe 500GB/Adata 500gb NVMe
Display(s)	Acer 1080p 22"/ (3) Samsung 22" 1080p
Case	(2) Lian Li Lancool II Mesh/Corsair 4000D /Phanteks Eclipse 500a/Be Quiet Pure Base 500/Bones of HAF
Power Supply	EVGA Supernova 850G(2)/EVGA Supernova GT 650w/Phantek Amps 750w/Seasonic Focus 750w
Mouse	Generic Black wireless (5)
Keyboard	Generic Black wireless (5)
Software	Win 10/Ubuntu

System Name	The work PC /2700x/5950x
Processor	3900X stock/ 2700x stock/ 5950x 4200 MHz fixed @ 1,056-1,08V
Motherboard	Gigabyte AORUS Master X570/2xMSI X470 M7 AC
Cooling	Custom WC XSPC RX480, Laing DDC, XSPC Laing DDC Top V3 and EK Velocity/NH15/NH-U12S SE
Memory	32 GB Viper 3600/14 /16 GB Trident Z F4-4000C18D-16GTZSW 3600 /32 GB G Skill Flare CL14 3400
Video Card(s)	2070 Super X MSI/GTX 970 MSI/ GTX 970 MSI
Storage	1 TB SSD+500 GB NVMe / 500 GB SSD/ 2 TB 990 Pro
Display(s)	Dell UltraSharp U2518D/2408WFP
Case	Corsair 800D / Lian test bench/NZXT 500
Power Supply	AX 850 Titanium/AX 860i/AX 760
Software	Dual boot/Win 10 / Linux / Win 10+Linux

System Name	Not so complete or overkill - There are others!! Just no room to put! :D
Processor	Ryzen Threadripper 3970X
Motherboard	Asus Zenith 2 Extreme Alpha
Cooling	Lots!! Dual GTX 560 rads with D5 pumps for each rad. One rad for each component
Memory	Viper Steel 4 x 16GB DDR4 3600MHz not sure on the timings... Probably still at 2667!! :(
Video Card(s)	Asus Strix 3090 with front and rear active full cover water blocks
Storage	I'm bound to forget something here - 250GB OS, 2 x 1TB NVME, 2 x 1TB SSD, 4TB SSD, 2 x 8TB HD etc...
Display(s)	3 x Dell 27" S2721DGFA @ 7680 x 1440P @ 144Hz or 165Hz - working on it!!
Case	The big Thermaltake that looks like a Case Mods
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	EVGA 1600W T2
Mouse	Corsair thingy
Keyboard	Razer something or other....
VR HMD	No headset yet
Software	Windows 11 OS... Not a fan!!
Benchmark Scores	I've actually never benched it!! Too busy with WCG and FAH and not gaming! :( :( Not OC'd it!! :(

WCG-TPU Cruncher's Hardware/Tech Support Discussion Thread

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PolRoger

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mstenholm

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phill

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TRWOV

mstenholm

thebluebumblebee

Jacky_BEL

mstenholm

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mstenholm

phill

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KLiKzg

thebluebumblebee

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HammerON

The Watchful Moderator

thebluebumblebee

80-watt Hamster

KLiKzg

System Name	Daily/SFF
Processor	Ryzen 5900X in ECO-mode.
Motherboard	ASUS ROG Strix X570-I Gaming
Cooling	Noctua NH-U9B SE2
Memory	GSKILL Flare X F4-3200C14D-16GFX
Video Card(s)	ZOTAC 1660Ti AMP
Storage	WD Black SN750 500GB NVMe SSD
Display(s)	SAMSUNG 24" SD590 Series
Case	NCASE M1
Audio Device(s)	On-board
Power Supply	CORSAIR SF750
Mouse	Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0
Keyboard	KB Paradise V80 Olivette TKL
Software	W10

System Name	Main/DC
Processor	i7-3770K/i7-2600K
Motherboard	MSI Z77A-GD55/GA-P67A-UD4-B3
Cooling	Phanteks PH-TC14CS/H80
Memory	Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) LP /4GB Kingston DDR3 1600
Video Card(s)	Asus GTX 660 Ti/MSI HD7770
Storage	Crucial MX100 256GB/120GB Samsung 830 & Seagate 2TB(died)
Display(s)	Asus 24' LED/Samsung SyncMaster B1940
Case	P100/Antec P280 It's huge!
Audio Device(s)	on board
Power Supply	SeaSonic SS-660XP2/Seasonic SS-760XP2
Software	Win 7 Home Premiun 64 Bit

System Name	MSI GP76
Processor	intel i7 11800h
Cooling	2 laptop fans
Memory	32gb of 3000mhz DDR4
Video Card(s)	Nvidia 3070
Storage	x2 PNY 8tb cs2130 m.2 SSD--16tb of space
Display(s)	17.3" IPS 1920x1080 240Hz
Power Supply	280w laptop power supply
Mouse	Logitech m705
Keyboard	laptop keyboard
Software	lots of movies and Windows 10 with win 7 shell
Benchmark Scores	Good enough for me

System Name	Dell-y Driver
Processor	Core i5-10400
Motherboard	Asrock H410M-HVS
Cooling	Intel 95w stock cooler
Memory	2x8 A-DATA 2999Mhz DDR4
Video Card(s)	UHD 630
Storage	1TB WD Green M.2 - 4TB Seagate Barracuda
Display(s)	Asus PA248 1920x1200 IPS
Case	Dell Vostro 270S case
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	Dell 220w
Software	Windows 10 64bit

System Name	MSi Coffee Lake
Processor	i7-8700k
Motherboard	MSI Z370 GAMING PRO CARBON AC
Cooling	NZXT something AIO loop
Memory	16GB Kingston HyperX 2133 C14 Fury Black
Video Card(s)	TITAN Xp Jedi Order Edition
Storage	Samsung 960 Evo NVMe
Display(s)	Medion 23'
Case	Cooler Master Stryker
Audio Device(s)	onboard
Power Supply	BeQuiet 600W
Mouse	Logitech Trackman T-BB18
Keyboard	Generic hp
Software	Windows 10

System Name	Nilin
Processor	Ryzen 9 5800x
Motherboard	Asus Rog Crosshair VIII Hero Wifi
Cooling	Lian Li Galahad AIO 360
Memory	G. Skill TridentZ Neo 32gb 3600Mhz CL16-16-16-36
Video Card(s)	Asus TUF RTX 3080
Storage	Samsung Evo 960 250gb (System), Samsung Evo 860 500gb (Misc), ADATA SX8200PNP (Games)
Display(s)	LG 27" UHD IPS, LG Ultragear 27" WQHD Nano IPS
Case	InWin 303 (7x Fractal Prisma 120mm)
Power Supply	Tt Toughpower Grand RGB 850W
Mouse	Razer Viper Ultimate
Keyboard	SteelSeries Apex 3
Benchmark Scores	https://www.3dmark.com/fs/21022952 (old system)

System Name	RyzenGtEvo/ Asus strix scar II
Processor	Amd R5 5900X/ Intel 8750H
Motherboard	Crosshair hero8 impact/Asus
Cooling	360EK extreme rad+ 360$EK slim all push, cpu ek suprim Gpu full cover all EK
Memory	Corsair Vengeance Rgb pro 3600cas14 16Gb in four sticks./16Gb/16GB
Video Card(s)	Powercolour RX7900XT Reference/Rtx 2060
Storage	Silicon power 2TB nvme/8Tb external/1Tb samsung Evo nvme 2Tb sata ssd/1Tb nvme
Display(s)	Samsung UAE28"850R 4k freesync.dell shiter
Case	Lianli 011 dynamic/strix scar2
Audio Device(s)	Xfi creative 7.1 on board ,Yamaha dts av setup, corsair void pro headset
Power Supply	corsair 1200Hxi/Asus stock
Mouse	Roccat Kova/ Logitech G wireless
Keyboard	Roccat Aimo 120
VR HMD	Oculus rift
Software	Win 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores	8726 vega 3dmark timespy/ laptop Timespy 6506

System Name	Aki
Processor	AMD 7800X3D
Motherboard	ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-A
Cooling	MSI MAG CoreLiquid E360
Memory	Patriot Viper Elite 5 32GB 6200
Video Card(s)	PNY RTX 4090 XLR8
Storage	Samsung 960 Pro 512 GB + WD Black SN850 1TB
Display(s)	Dell 32" Curved Gaming Monitor (S3220DGF)
Case	Corsair 5000D Airflow
Audio Device(s)	On-board
Power Supply	EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G5
Mouse	Roccat Kone Pure
Keyboard	ASUS ROG Strix Scope II Wireless
Software	Win 11 Pro
Benchmark Scores	Always changing~

System Name	Office
Processor	Ryzen 5600G
Motherboard	ASUS B450M-A II
Cooling	be quiet! Shadow Rock LP
Memory	16GB Patriot Viper Steel DDR4-3200
Video Card(s)	Gigabyte RX 5600 XT
Storage	PNY CS1030 250GB, Crucial MX500 2TB
Display(s)	Dell S2719DGF
Case	Fractal Define 7 Compact
Power Supply	EVGA 550 G3
Mouse	Logitech M705 Marthon
Keyboard	Logitech G410
Software	Windows 10 Pro 22H2