Silicon shortage is so bad, that Pentium 4, Core 2 Duo and Pentium Dual made a comeback

[eidairaman1]

I feel your pain brotha.

I lost a new Zotac AMP! GTX285 due to my stupidity. I still hold myself responsible

She was such a good clocker, I only had it for a work week. It sparked when I shorted the backside.

I poured a little iced tea into my mouth for our fallen hardware.. rip.

I remember my MR 9800 256 In my XPS Gen 1/Inspiron 9100 Laptop being a heavy clocker.

Its why i dont look at notebooks but desktop replacement laptops from Sager, Eurocom et.

And why i laugh at people complaining about thermals on a notebook, trying to game on the pos

 

[The red spirit]

Good news, now first gen i5 is on sale again:

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Good news, all Pentium 4s now outsell Ryzen 5 2600. Not even that, but also Celeron 420 does so too. So I guess, this venture had some success, but I almost feel bad for that Ryzen, it is the least popular chip on their store right now.

What a beast, what a competitor to lame ass Ryzen 5 2600. XD

 

[qubit]

Id like to get a Legit 3200 again to replace my AXP-M

I have a 2500+ that overclocks to a 3200+ with complete stability.

 

[Mussels]

I have a 2500+ that overclocks to a 3200+ with complete stability.

pretty sure every single one did, 333 FSB to 400 and away you went

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

I have a 2500+ that overclocks to a 3200+ with complete stability.

Now the question is, can it do at least 2.3 Ghz? (PR rating higher than 3200+) (3200+ is only 2.2 Ghz, easy-peasy for a later Athlon XP!) Many later Athlon XPs can, I bet.

 

[zenlaserman]

Heh, I remember back when the Pentium D 805 dropped to $95 on NewEgg, it was the first dual-core I ever saw under $100. When OC'd to 4GHz or more, it could match and even beat AMD's top of the line FX at the time, which was near $1K. I lived in North Dakota at the time, built a PD805 machine for a buddy that doubled as a room heater in the winter. He still has that beast, still keeps toes toasty.

Miss my old Shuttle XPC with Barton-core XP-M. Lots of good times in Oblivion.

 

[Ruru]

Heh, I remember back when the Pentium D 805 dropped to $95 on NewEgg, it was the first dual-core I ever saw under $100. When OC'd to 4GHz or more, it could match and even beat AMD's top of the line FX at the time, which was near $1K. I lived in North Dakota at the time, built a PD805 machine for a buddy that doubled as a room heater in the winter. He still has that beast, still keeps toes toasty.

Miss my old Shuttle XPC with Barton-core XP-M. Lots of good times in Oblivion.

D 805 was also my first dualcore. Unfortunately though it OC'd only to about 3.5GHz, maybe because of the board (Asus P5P800 SE, LGA775 and AGP, 865PE).

 

[freeagent]

That 2500+ should do at least 2600 or so. Going over 2v is ok

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

That 2500+ should do at least 2600 or so. Going over 2v is ok

I had a Barton 3000+ AQZFA 033x that needed no more than 1.80V for 2.4, so it looked like 2.5 would be fairly easy! (Don't remember the last digit, but I think it was a late-enough revision for the multi to be locked.)

 

[qubit]

pretty sure every single one did, 333 FSB to 400 and away you went

My one did! Such a bargain. That P4 Northwood 2.8GHz was faster at gaming though, especially when overclocked to 3.5GHz.

I noticed less random system glitches with it, too.

Now the question is, can it do at least 2.3 Ghz? (PR rating higher than 3200+) (3200+ is only 2.2 Ghz, easy-peasy for a later Athlon XP!) Many later Athlon XPs can, I bet.

It’s so long ago now that I can’t remember the maximum clock speed I could get out of it. I don’t think it went much above 2.2GHz though.

I’m glad AMD no longer base their model numbers on some supposed extrapolated performance figure of an Intel CPU. So embarrassing.

 

[lexluthermiester]

pretty sure every single one did, 333 FSB to 400 and away you went

Some need a bit of a voltage bump, but yeah, this was a thing! They also needed a beefy heatsink!

 

[freeagent]

Good ol Jet 7+ and its whistle That cooler allowed me to kill me NF7-S. Pretty sure it was in the 2700MHz range on the 2500m. 2.1v give or take a dash of heat.

Edit:
It could have been the x46 range, I did drink a lot in those days.

 

[AlwaysHope]

Wonder if this trend will continue...
I have boxes of old Pentium IIs & numerous P4s in storage, heck even got a 486 platform sitting on a shelf with CRT monitors. Glad I still hung on to my LGA775 boards too!
Last count I had over 100 old cpus.

 

[eidairaman1]

I have a 2500+ that overclocks to a 3200+ with complete stability.

Mine did as well 200x11

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

I don’t think it went much above 2.2GHz though.

I know that the poor-clocking early-revision 2400+s won't do much more than that, if at all! I tried a 0310? (or around there) 2400+ AIUHB and it OC'ed like poop! I regularly saw Prime95 give me an error in probably within 15 minutes! I would be lucky to get 2.27 Ghz at 1.85V or something like that! LOL! Wasn't good like that 04xx KIXJB! The only thing better, was an unlocked multi, LOL!

 

[The red spirit]

Wonder if this trend will continue...
I have boxes of old Pentium IIs & numerous P4s in storage, heck even got a 486 platform sitting on a shelf with CRT monitors. Glad I still hung on to my LGA775 boards too!
Last count I had over 100 old cpus.

I would say it's unlikely that it would continue for long, but I have never seen such a quantity of those chips, so they likely have some decent stock. And if there's demand and that store has a legal means to acquire new chips, it might last for a while. A month or two is my guess.

Fun fact: now Pentium 4 is on discount.

 

[freeagent]

Fun fact: now Pentium 4 is on discount

It only took like 15 years

 

[The red spirit]

It only took like 15 years

You tell me that they didn't have to discount it at launch, when Athlon XP and Athlon 64 kicked its butt?

 

[freeagent]

You tell me that they didn't have to discount it at launch, when Athlon XP and Athlon 64 kicked its butt?

I can see when A64 did, but not AXP.

 

[The red spirit]

I can see when A64 did, but not AXP.

Athlon XP realistically competed with Willamette, basically Pentium 4, but quite lowly clocked. They topped out at just 2GHz or maybe 2.2GHz. Those chips were responsible for all that "Pentium III is faster than Pentium 4" drama initially and I can't imagine Athlon XP not beating it. Phil did benches and Athlon XP could go against 3GHz Pentium 4.

Not to mention that Athlon XPs overclocked really well and Athlon XP had mods like this (please turn down your volume):

 

[freeagent]

My buddy's 3GHz Northwood destroyed my AXP 2600 Tbred and 2500M. Tables turned pretty quick when A64 dropped, that was the day he quit bragging.

 

[QuietBob]

Now the question is, can it do at least 2.3 Ghz? (PR rating higher than 3200+) (3200+ is only 2.2 Ghz, easy-peasy for a later Athlon XP!) Many later Athlon XPs can, I bet.

My XP-M did 2.5 on air at 1.8v. I was happy with the round number, so I never pushed it further.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

My XP-M did 2.5 on air at 1.8v. I was happy with the round number, so I never pushed it further.

I might have been able to do that on the non-"M" Athlon XP 3000+ that I had, but wouldn't be a big deal if I needed 1.85V or 1.825V. Those were from the days when 2.6 Ghz was a record-smashing number for AMD!

I might have been able to do that on the non-"M" Athlon XP 3000+ that I had, but wouldn't be a big deal if I needed 1.85V or 1.825V. Those were from the days when 2.6 Ghz was a record-smashing number for AMD!

And the 2004 Asus A7N8X-X, where I did the Barton 3000+ OC'ing, had caps that suddenly were found to be bulging and leaking like Mount Vesuvius one day in 2015! (or 2014)

Because Chemi-con, a well known high quality capacitor manufacturer, unfortunately has an extremely high defect rate with their KZG series. Ones manufactured in 2004, (likely 2005 as well) were possibly the worst batch! They seem most likely to bulge and leak on motherboards made in 2004 and 2005!

All that old-school Athlon-related stuff, unfortunately is gone! Back in 2012, I didn't recall the caps being visibly bad!

 

[Remeca]

All this talk about Athlon XP brings back repressed memories, of my first PC build. The best new CPU I could get was an Athlon XP 1600+, and I didn't know about thermal paste, and as soon as I turned it on it went poof in a cloud of green smoke. Then it was back to my P3 eMachines until I eventually built an Athlon 2 X2 system.

 

[phanbuey]

All this talk about Athlon XP brings back repressed memories, of my first PC build. The best new CPU I could get was an Athlon XP 1600+, and I didn't know about thermal paste, and as soon as I turned it on it went poof in a cloud of green smoke. Then it was back to my P3 eMachines until I eventually built an Athlon 2 X2 system.

omg man... that sucks!

P3 was a good chip tho. That was during my "Gaming Laptop" phase.

EDIT:

Intel Core 2 Duo E4400 E4500 E4600 E4700 E6300 E6320 E6420 LGA/775 CPU Processor | eBay

these are dirt cheap too... much better than the p4s