Cooling Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Air v Water

[mtcn77]

I think 80°C is definitely biofouling territory. Whoever runs water coolers at that temperature is asking for it.

my 5800X for example loses almost 200Mhz in Cinebench when going from an NH U12S to a 360mm AIO.

You know, ryzens have an ihs concavity problem that resolves only with high tension pressure.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

I think 80°C is definitely biofouling territory. Whoever runs water coolers at that temperature is asking for it.


You know, ryzens have an ihs concavity problem that resolves only with high tension pressure.

You may have misquoted me, my comment has nothing to do with running at 80c or water temp

 

[mtcn77]

You may have misquoted me, my comment has nothing to do with running at 80c or water temp

Yeah, sorry about that. Should have quoted your source.

I have a custom loop, and run my CPU around 80°C. Why not? The CPU has absolutely zero problems delivering peak performance at that temperature.

That is how you get a dead system long term.

 

[ThrashZone]

Sometimes it's matter of luck.
Building custom loop for many years and i've never done a leaking test
That's luck or madness

Hi,
Well technically just filling with fluid is leak testing
No leaks is not luck it's just making sure all fittings/... are installed/ assembled well a not getting in a hurry
Speed kills in loop assembly we should save that for benchmarks lol

To the op
GPU's benefit the most temp wise on water blocks
You go from a loud 60c++ gpu to a quiet 40++ gpu just with a water block, that's a big difference lol

QDC's are sweet

 

[GerKNG]

I think 80°C is definitely biofouling territory. Whoever runs water coolers at that temperature is asking for it.


You know, ryzens have an ihs concavity problem that resolves only with high tension pressure.

i know.
that's why i don't use Asetek AIOs.
but a Noctua Cooler works perfectly fine on ryzen. it's just that even my NH D15 at 100% RPM (1500RPM) is around 10-15% warmer than my AIO at 1200 RPM Fan Speed and balanced pump speed (inaudible even with an open case)

 

[Outback Bronze]

Yeah, I love Water Cooling but Air Cooling is way more practical.

 

[FireFox]

I had one for a few hours.

Arrived, installed, tested it and sent back the same day

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Yeah I just keep a little 212 evo for emergency use
I was looking to get a new one but just threw that to a back burner because the be-quiet I was interested in had a shit mounting system new model was supposed to be better.

 

[FireFox]

One thing i have to admit about the Noctua NH D15, that cooler is damn Sexy.

I paid €100 for the Noctua, when i sent it back and got the refund i bought an Alphacool Eisbaer LT360 for €100+, that said, for an Air cooler was expensive

 

[ThrashZone]

One thing i have to admit about the Noctua NH D15, that cooler is damn Sexy.

I paid €100 for the Noctua, when i sent it back and got the refund i bought an Alphacool Eisbaer LT360 for €100+, that said, for an Air cooler was expensive

Hi,
Yeah about time they went black but yes they are prowd their old color scheme is nasty.

 

[FireFox]

Well technically just filling with fluid is leak testing

Right.
I remember a funny fact that happened to a friend of mine, he built a custom loop and filled it up with the pump speed at 3000rpm, everything seemed ok, no leaks, but when he increased the pump speed at 5000rpm due to the air bubbles the loop started to leak in 2 different points

 

[ThrashZone]

Right.
I remember a funny fact that happened to a friend of mine, he built a custom loop and filled it up with the pump speed at 3000rpm, everything seemed ok, no leaks, but when he increased the pump speed at 5000rpm due to the air bubbles the loop started to leak in 2 different points

Hi,
Yep just leak testing in real time I do it too

Most consider leak testing using air pressure not water but it's not as much fun that way lol

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Yeah, sorry about that. Should have quoted your source.


That is how you get a dead system long term.

Systems die long-term anyway, might as well use the shit.
I'm with him but at 70°C all the time, oh and my last pc exceeded it's usefulness way before I killed it and it was a cooker FX at high temperatures for life.

We do have cooler's attached and it's thermal cutoff would save it if it's frequency drop control didn't?!.

Or you could leave it on standby all its life bar gaming ,I imagine it would last age's.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
20c under tj max should be fine for 24/7 365

But I have a system from 2009 acer q9550 still working but can't oc it so definitely increases life span not being able to play with it as much as my other systems not near as old x99 being the oldest after that one which hopefully it will last 12+ years to on a custom loop

 

[freeagent]

I aim for the 70s but am ok in the low 80s. Though I have seen a hundred + a few times. All core clocks will getcha every time..

 

[dirtyferret]

This thread can only end up in "my preference is better, so STFU"

You can apply that to 90% of all threads posted.

 

[AusWolf]

My notification dropped me to page 5, where the topic was the Noctua NH-D15. I can't be asked to read back so much, so I jumped to page 8. The topic is still the D15. It looks like I didn't miss a thing.

 

[mtcn77]

Systems die long-term anyway, might as well use the shit.
I'm with him but at 70°C all the time, oh and my last pc exceeded it's usefulness way before I killed it and it was a cooker FX at high temperatures for life.

We do have cooler's attached and it's thermal cutoff would save it if it's frequency drop control didn't?!.

Or you could leave it on standby all its life bar gaming ,I imagine it would last age's.

This was a reply to that. You need to dissociate between cpu life and loop life which is heavily compromised by temperature.

I think 80°C is definitely biofouling territory. Whoever runs water coolers at that temperature is asking for it.

 

[FireFox]

I aim for the 70s but am ok in the low 80s

Spikes?
Sorry for asking the same question 2 times but the first one wasn't answered.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

This was a reply to that. You need to dissociate between cpu life and loop life which is heavily compromised by temperature.

Yeah but CPU at 80 isn't watercooling at 80.
And he said his CPU is at 80 not his loop.
Beyond 60 on the loop is as you say.

 

[FireFox]

Yeah but CPU at 80 isn't watercooling at 80.

That is why i have been asking the same question over and over again

 

[ThrashZone]

Yeah but CPU at 80 isn't watercooling at 80.

Beyond 60 on the loop is as you say.

Hi,
Depends on system and clocks used
80c is pretty easy to achieve not really that dangerous either

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Hi,
Depends on system and clocks used
80c is pretty easy to achieve not really that dangerous either

60°C water temperature and above kills pumps.
Well pc watercooling ones.

I aim for 50 max on water and achieve with relative ease.

Plus if you're water is 80°c it's not going to cool a CPU at 80 is it you need a temperature differential.

 

[ThrashZone]

60°C water temperature and above kills pumps.
Well pc watercooling ones.

I aim for 50 max on water and achieve with relative ease.

Plus if you're water is 80°c it's not going to cool a CPU at 80 is it you need a temperature differential.

Hi,
You just said 80c water cooling not 80c water temperature though lol

 

[FireFox]

I would like to see that one with 60/80c water temp

Maybe they are planning to boil a chicken