More powerful, more expensive Playstation 5 speculation

[Vayra86]

Because you stated the problem with the APIs. Claiming that DX12 is wrong. I claim that Nvidia is wrong and causes the issues.

I never claimed DX12 is wrong. You need to learn to read instead. The whole post is about developers using APIs and what they're forced to deal with in doing so, when products are going to have to get supported on multiple of them.

That's entirely not up to Microsoft, or Nvidia, or AMD. Its up to publishers of said software and their target market(s).

 

[ARF]

One MAJOR complaint everyone has is how DX12 games would run shittier than their DX11 counterparts...

The word "shittier" is enough. Now you get a life

I never claimed DX12 is wrong.

Ok

 

[Vayra86]

The word "shittier" is enough. Now you get a life


Ok

You really have the attention span of a fly don't you? There's a thing called context and/or reading comprehension. Try it sometime. You can start practicing by reading the whole post.

 

[Ferrum Master]

That is why I proposed a more expensive (700+$), more powerful variant. Something similar to what Series X is for Series S.

Just saying that like in the PC market we have the choice of a 6700XT for most people or 6900XT for madmen, I would like if there was a madmen choice for consoles as well.

Sony is a very conservative Japanese company also. Nothing indicates that beyond us few enthusiasts need it. The heck most even haven't had their hands on the stock PS5 yet.

 

[sepheronx]

Sony is a very conservative Japanese company also. Nothing indicates that beyond us few enthusiasts need it. The heck most even haven't had their hands on the stock PS5 yet.

Except gaming division is US now so the US has a rather good history at throwing money at something regardless how bad it can get.

Now I don't know if the PS5 is still Japanese per se. Maybe still will be made and future consoles, by Japanese teams.

 

[WhoDecidedThat]

Nothing indicates that beyond us few enthusiasts need it

Nvidia's Titan cards, xx80Ti / xx90 cards selling well would say different. iPhones have continued to get more expensive and they still sell quite well. After all, gaming isn't really a need is it? It's a matter of wants and I am sure there will be people willing to fork money for extra performance.

The whole point of this discussion was that I looked at 400$ PS5's visual prowess and wondered what more they could do if they had the budget of 700$ per unit.

heck most even haven't had their hands on the stock PS5 yet

I agree. A PS5 Pro makes little sense in the current market with chip shortages.

 

[cvaldes]

A PS5 Pro's likely appearance would be about 4 years after the original console debut, thus late 2024 or early 2025.

As for people wondering how the increased performance would be handled in terms of thermals, most likely it would be produced on a more advanced process node and thus be able to provide extra performance with similar TDP to the current ASIC.

There is pretty much zero chance we will see a PS5 Pro in 2022. Nintendo, Sony, Xbox all makes their profits from software sales, not console hardware. This is nothing new, it was the same in the 1990s.

Look at Nintendo. They released the Switch OLED with no additional performance improvements apart from handheld screen image quality. The mid-generation hardware upgrades have not been revolutionary.

 

[Mussels]

They'll release a PS5 PRO with 8K 60Hz 2D support and better 4K60 gaming performance
Then they'll release a PS6 with backward compatibility a few years later, with 8K gaming support (at 30FPS/virtual res stuff)

 

[Solid State Soul ( SSS )]

I love how the OP think this is hyperbolical when it actually happened with the ps4 pro and Xbox one x, and it will happen again no doubt with current gen consoles.

As for price it would be about 100$ more than standard console just like ps4 pro is 100$ more than the ps4 slim

They'll release a PS5 PRO with 8K 60Hz 2D support and better 4K60 gaming performance
Then they'll release a PS6 with backward compatibility a few years later, with 8K gaming support (at 30FPS/virtual res stuff)

I'd love to get a Crystal ball like the one your using, must be nice to know what the future unfolds

But we already have the slim, PS5 digital

We do ????????!!

 

[cvaldes]

They'll release a PS5 PRO with 8K 60Hz 2D support and better 4K60 gaming performance
Then they'll release a PS6 with backward compatibility a few years later, with 8K gaming support (at 30FPS/virtual res stuff)

The consumer world should have glimpsed 8K/60Hz video playback in July 2020 at kiosks at various Tokyo Summer Olympics venues, probably including a few displays at Narita, Haneda, and Kansai International Airports as a demonstration of Japanese high tech superiority.

Sadly, COVID-19 took all of this away. The tech was ready to go.

I'm guessing that Sony would have had concealed PS5 late prototype demo units at strategic locations as well demonstrating 4K/120Hz gaming for visitors to play around with.

I doubt if a mid-generation videogame console upgrade will offer a substantial resolution bump.

Realistically 8K gaming won't come until about 2028.

Hell, I game at 4K/120Hz and I'm not sure what percentage of gamers would benefit from that. OK, I'm gaming on a 55" OLED with 120Hz VRR and Nvidia G-Sync but your typical gamer isn't rocking this display. Frankly I could be happy with 1080p gaming sitting on my living room couch but I won a GeForce RTX 3080 from the Newegg Shuffle which is why I upgraded my TV from FHD to UHD. I never planned this for 2021.

 

[Vayra86]

I'd love to get a Crystal ball like the one your using, must be nice to know what the future unfolds

You do know that Mussels contain pearls, right? Not entirely crystal, but close enough

I stole one of those pearls too some years ago. It works quite well!

 

[chrcoluk]

So the current PlayStation 5 has 400$ MSRP. I was wondering, what if Sony had another version (say PlayStation 5X) which had a 70% more powerful GPU. To put it in context, PS5's GPU is about as good as a RX 6600 XT. The 5X GPU I am suggesting would be on par with RX 6800 non-XT. The advantage of the 5x would be that it would allow for higher fps. A game that manages 30fps locked on PS5 ( for example Spider Man Miles Morales with RT ) would be able to reach 60fps locked on 5x (with some quality reductions).

So, how would this hypothetical PS5x do in the market? Would it sell well? What price do you think would be appropriate?

Are you sure its $400 MSRP?

Its 450GBP in UK which is close to 550USD.

Dont think is a PS5 pro any time soon. They dont have the capacity to cool it and would be too expensive as well as too early in life.

 

[Solid State Soul ( SSS )]

Are you sure its $400 MSRP?

Its 450GBP in UK which is close to 550USD.

Dont think is a PS5 pro any time soon. They dont have the capacity to cool it and would be too expensive as well as too early in life.

Digital version is 100$ cheaper than disk version

 

[Bomby569]

the only thing going for them was remaining in an older arquitechture to end the shortages, if they go for the new stuff expect scalping, shortages and the likes

 

[skizzo]

I speculate that speculators will be speculating about this spectacle for a while