Alder Lake CPUs common discussion

[The King]

Intel is going to lock this down IMHO get the BIOS if you have the Z690 Apex or Hero.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Intel is going to lock this down IMHO get the BIOS if you have the Z690 Apex or Hero.

Nice, ADL is so crappy isn't it /s

Unlinked BCLK is so awesome

 

[birdie]

Intel is going to lock this down IMHO get the BIOS if you have the Z690 Apex or Hero.

I'm sure Intel will absolutely ask ASUS and other vendors (AsRock?) to close this loophole cause it makes their products segmentation null and void.

Nice, ADL is so crappy isn't it /s

I see quite the opposite. Not sure if it's a joke, sarcasm or something else. ADL is actually great.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I'm sure Intel will absolutely ask ASUS and other vendors (AsRock?) to close this loophole cause it makes their products segmentation null and void.

Yeah, they'll get right on that!....

Not sure if it's a joke, sarcasm or something else. ADL is actually great.

It was sarcasm, thus the " /s "...

 

[Deleted member 24505]

I'm sure Intel will absolutely ask ASUS and other vendors (AsRock?) to close this loophole cause it makes their products segmentation null and void.



I see quite the opposite. Not sure if it's a joke, sarcasm or something else. ADL is actually great.

I use /s for sarcasm as there is no other way to get it across. I actually have a 12700k and luuuurve it

Yeah, they'll get right on that!....

Lots will be storing that 0811 bios for future reference i am sure.

 

[The King]

I use /s for sarcasm as there is no other way to get it across. I actually have a 12700k and luuuurve it



Lots will be storing that 0811 bios for future reference i am sure.

People who buy a 12400 and OC it to beat your 12700K will luuuurvee it even more.
j/k

 

[Deleted member 24505]

People who buy a 12400 and OC it to beat your 12700K will luuuurvee it even more.
j/k

Mine still has more cores

 

[lexluthermiester]

People who buy a 12400 and OC it to beat your 12700K will luuuurvee it even more.
j/k

Until they try to run something that needs more cores/threads.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Until they try to run something that needs more core/threads.

Which is what the video shows. No doubt the OC'd 12400 is impressive, but who is gonna buy a top end Asus board with DDR5 and put a 12400 in it........No one

There is a small chance of modded bios appearing for lower end boards though

 

[JustBenching]

These are some results on a 12900k with a u12a. Temps hit 90c Single is at 5.6-5.7, depending on the workload and multi is 5.2-5.3. Using OCTVB to downclock at 85c

 

[Jonny21]

Hi everyone, I wanted to understand something about the i7-12700k CPU. Using CPU-Z on my CPU, the cache is described as in this image [https://ibb.co/kc22fvK]. But looking on the net I found it described like this [https://ibb.co/R0ntLqH].
Is there an explanation for this? Are there perhaps 2 different variants? Or is mine a faulty model?
I also ask because I am having some small problem with this CPU, for example when I start a video (using MPC-HC, MPC-BE, VLC or even the one integrated in Win11), I always have a little stutter when starting the video (and even in the middle if I zap) problems I didn't have with the previous CPU (i7-3770).

 

[The King]

Hi everyone, I wanted to understand something about the i7-12700k CPU. Using CPU-Z on my CPU, the cache is described as in this image [https://ibb.co/kc22fvK]. But looking on the net I found it described like this [https://ibb.co/R0ntLqH].
Is there an explanation for this? Are there perhaps 2 different variants? Or is mine a faulty model?
I also ask because I am having some small problem with this CPU, for example when I start a video (using MPC-HC, MPC-BE, VLC or even the one integrated in Win11), I always have a little stutter when starting the video (and even in the middle if I zap) problems I didn't have with the previous CPU (i7-3770).

One CPU-Z screenshot version is 1.98 the other is 1.99. There are changes between the two versions.

Try with version 1.98 and see if it shows the same.

 

[Jonny21]

One CPU-Z screenshot version is 1.98 the other is 1.99. There are changes between the two versions.

Try with version 1.98 and see if it shows the same.

I had already tried, no difference.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Here is mine on 1.99.0 i think it's correct. 8x2+4=12 cores/20 threads

Tried vieos with VLC and no stutter when starting up or skipping around, it is instant.

 

[Jonny21]

Here is mine on 1.99.0 i think it's correct. 8x2+4=12 cores/20 threads

Tried vieos with VLC and no stutter when starting up or skipping around, it is instant.
View attachment 232803

In the windows task manager how is the cache reported? For me is:

 

[Deleted member 24505]

In the windows task manager how is the cache reported? For me is:

 

[Jonny21]

View attachment 232806

Thanks for the screenshot, at this point I am wondering is it really possible that it has a faulty CPU ???

 

[The King]

Thanks for the screenshot, at this point I am wondering is it really possible that it has a faulty CPU ???

Maybe the issue it with your motherboard. Are you running the latest BIOS?

 

[Jonny21]

Maybe the issue it with your motherboard. Are you running the latest BIOS?

The motherboard is the ROG STRIX Z690-G GAMING WIFI, I have already updated the BIOS to the latest version, 0811.

 

[The King]

Intel Core i7 12700 @ 4688.53 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

[s0ida0] Validated Dump by Anonymous (2022-01-15 02:06:15) - MB: MSI MAG B660M MORTAR WIFI DDR4 (MS-7D42) - RAM: 32768 MB

valid.x86.fr

Intel Core i5 12500 @ 4389.26 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

[93qy2b] Validated Dump by Anonymous (2022-01-14 03:09:32) - MB: MSI MAG B660M MORTAR WIFI DDR4 (MS-7D42) - RAM: 16384 MB

valid.x86.fr

 

[Jonny21]

I tinkered with the BIOS a bit, if I disable the virtualization the cache becomes correct (but I have anyway the stutters in the videos ...). Curiously both CPU-Z and Intel Processor Identification Utility say my CPU doesn't support VT-x if I keep it on, but they say it supports it if I turn it off. I'm not understanding anything anymore.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Mine does not support hyper threading

 

[The King]

Intel Celeron Overclocked by 57% and new 4-Core Records - non-K OC

 

[arabus]

Asrock PG Velocita also with BCLK oc.

 

[thelawnet]

Intel is going to lock this down IMHO get the BIOS if you have the Z690 Apex or Hero.

Meh.

12400f = $175 (4.4GHz)
12400 = $200
12500 = $210 (4.6GHz)
12600kf = $270 (4.9GHz)
12600k = $295

So if they take a $700 motherboard, then they can get the 12400f or 12400 to 5.1 GHz, which will lose to a 12600k, which is barely slower but has more cores. And they only needed to spend $500 more on the board.