AMD Ryzen 7 5700X

[cvaldes]

It's a really really good CPU for gaming, applications, low power scenarios, weak cooler scenarios, works on a gazillion existing motherboards, uses dirt cheap DDR4 memory .. sure it could be cheaper like everything else on the planet, but the pricing is definitely not totally insane

Isn't that what you wrote in your review in a nutshell?



Maybe that should have been your concluding remarks.

 

[PanicLake]

Oh right, let me run it today, will update the review in the evening

@W1zzard Hello there, did you forget? Didn't have time? I mentioned the missing 3700X comparison because I was really interested in it... (I have one). I have looked at the 3700X review to see if I can compare the data from there, but it has different benchmarks and hardware.

 

[bug]

Why is it hard for so many people to consider, that for 12th generation Intel you will always need a new, more expensive motherboard,
when even for Ryzen 5000 there has been an AM4-platform for several years, which obviously saves you money, if you want more performance.

Probably because I got my Alder Lake mobo for cheap. Also, how many users out there do you think run their Zen1 and Zen2 CPUs on AM4 motherboards? And even if you are, the 5800X is still the better pick in most cases.

 

[Icon Charlie]

Thank you for the article. Yea this looks like a solid CPU.

 

[Ayhamb99]

This is a solid CPU for people who are already on the AM4 platform and are looking for an upgrade from an older Ryzen generation. It is a little too late though and I would say they should have released this CPU along with the 5600 when Ryzen 5000s first came out. Right now for people who are looking to build a completely new system I would say the 12600k is a better pick because it outperform the 5700x in basically everything while being cheaper. The 5700X's only advantage is better energy efficiency and lower power consumption.

 

[aktpu]

Also, how many users out there do you think run their Zen1 and Zen2 CPUs on AM4 motherboards? And even if you are, the 5800X is still the better pick in most cases.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that all of them?

 

[Bomby569]

Clearly a chip that makes absolutely no sense at this price point, no one should buy this. And you don't even have to go team blue vs team red, just compare to other AMD chips.
This is a AMD classic this days, releasing pointless, expensive silicon, that comes out to late.

 

[bug]

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that all of them?

Oops, brain fart. Yes, everyone's on AM4. (Sorry, posted before coffee.)

 

[W1zzard]

@W1zzard Hello there, did you forget? Didn't have time? I mentioned the missing 3700X comparison because I was really interested in it... (I have one). I have locked at the 3700X review to see if I can compare the data from there, but it has different benchmarks and hardware.

Not yet, trying to work less on the weekend since we have a baby.

 

[bug]

Not yet, trying to work less on the weekend since we have a baby.

Wth, the baby is not into hardware yet?

 

[Pepamami]

Apparently, this needs to be clarified
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You can still use 5700X as brand new PC, as an alternative to 12400F, since it has better multitask score (with extra payment) with same TDP

 

[Bomby569]

You can still use 5700X as brand new PC, as an alternative to 12400F, since it has better multitask score (with extra payment) with same TDP

from the review itself:

• Ryzen 7 5800X offers better price/performance for $10 more
• Intel Core i5-12600K (6+4 cores) is cheaper and faster

and if you're going for cheap it doesn't even include a cooler. Hard to see how anyone can recommend this.

 

[Pepamami]

Clearly a chip that makes absolutely no sense at this price point, no one should buy this. And you don't even have to go team blue vs team red, just compare to other AMD chips.
This is a AMD classic this days, releasing pointless, expensive silicon, that comes out to late.

what should I buy instead of 5700X? 12600 and 12400F has lower multithread score, 12600k and 5800X has higher power draw. Its not Zen2 or Zen2+, Zen3 still good for 2022

from the review itself:

• Ryzen 7 5800X offers better price/performance for $10 more
• Intel Core i5-12600K (6+4 cores) is cheaper and faster

and if you're going for cheap it doesn't even include a cooler. Hard to see how anyone can recommend this.

65W Cpus are more popular nowdays, and its not only cooler, u also need a normal/good motherboard, not some cheapo with open vrm

 

[Bomby569]

65W Cpus are more popular nowdays, and its not only cooler, u also need a normal/good motherboard, not some cheapo with open vrm

i doubt anyone is shopping for TDP or W.
You should not use a cheapo open vrm with the 5700x either, i really don't get your point.
Is this a cpu for someone with a trash mobo with a trash cooler but somehow does productivity and needs 8 cores?
Just buy any of the alternatives mentioned, they are better value even when one day you resale it to someone else. If heat is the problem, then cap it's W, undervolt it, etc.... There is no reason to buy this, NONE. Sorry mate.

The price is just AMD greed, and the reason it exists it's probably silicon that didn't made the cut for some higher sku.

 

[Pepamami]

The price is just AMD greed, and the reason it exists it's probably silicon that didn't made the cut for some higher sku.

5800X and 5700X has same price coz its the same CPU with different max TDP set. I bet 5800X gonna be dead soon, and we will have only 5700X and 5800X3D left.

If heat is the problem, then cap it's W, undervolt it, etc....

or maybe just buy 5700X, if u only want to snap cpu into socket and press power button. I spent 1 week tweaking my own 5800X.

Is this a cpu for someone with a trash mobo with a trash cooler but somehow does productivity and needs 8 cores?

U will not believe, but some people would actually plug this CPU into some cheap A320 mobo, place some basic "Alpine AM4" from Acrtic Cooling, and have 0 issues running 5700X in stock.
(I did this myself with 3600 and A320M-K from Asus)

 

[ratirt]

You should not use a cheapo open vrm with the 5700x either, i really don't get your point.

Any given motherboard can run 5700X without a problem. Literally any. from A320 to x570 range. Obviously you need one that supports it with the proper BIOS.

 

[Bomby569]

5800X and 5700X has same price coz its the same CPU with different max TDP set. I bet 5800X gonna be dead soon, and we will have only 5700X and 5800X3D left.

or maybe just buy 5700X, if u only want to snap cpu into socket and press power button. I spent 1 week to tweaking my own 5800X.

U will not believe, but some people would actually plug this CPU into some cheap A320 mobo, place some basic "Alpine AM4" from Acrtic Cooling, and have 0 issues running 5700X in stock.

It's a must buy for someone holding a cheap A320, and a cheap cooler, and don't want to do anything to it, because they buy everything cheaply cheap and are somewhat lazy and i assume not very well informed or tech savvy, but somehow need 8 core for productivity and have a big budget for a CPU (this is not exactly the cheapest CPU). Oh and this cheap bastard, that only goes crazy with it's money on cpu's, somehow don't care about value, or resale value, because nothing makes sense with this person

 

[bug]

5800X and 5700X has same price coz its the same CPU with different max TDP set. I bet 5800X gonna be dead soon, and we will have only 5700X and 5800X3D left.

or maybe just buy 5700X, if u only want to snap cpu into socket and press power button. I spent 1 week tweaking my own 5800X.

U will not believe, but some people would actually plug this CPU into some cheap A320 mobo, place some basic "Alpine AM4" from Acrtic Cooling, and have 0 issues running 5700X in stock.
(I did this myself with 3600 and A320M-K from Asus)

Wake up and smell the roses: AMD is nickel and diming you now that they have competitive products, just like Intel did before.
For the performance offered, this is priced too high. It will make sense in select scenarios, but this is not "highly recommended" all things considered.

 

[ratirt]

It's a must buy for someone holding a cheap A320, and a cheap cooler, and don't want to do anything to it, because they buy everything cheaply cheap and are somewhat lazy and i assume not very well informed or tech savvy, but somehow need 8 core for productivity and have a big budget for a CPU (this is not exactly the cheapest CPU). Oh and this cheap bastard, that only goes crazy with it's money on cpu's, somehow don't care about value, or resale value, because nothing makes sense with this person

Here.

5950x running on the cheap A320M board
Still there is no problem with that. Obviously there will be a limitation with the features this motherboard has.

 

[Chomiq]

I was facing the same dilemma as some users here. I had 3700X and my option was to buy 5700X for 1300 PLN or 5800X for something like 1500 PLN. I went with 5800X for 1330 PLN on a promo, which is roughly €278, lowest price for 5700X is €279 right now, and that's in Germany which has lower VAT than PL.

 

[Bomby569]

Here.

5950x running on the cheap A320M board
Still there is no problem with that. Obviously there will be a limitation with the features this motherboard has.

that really doesn't help the other users claims, if you can run that one, you can run a 5800x3d, like i said there is no point to this silicon at this price

 

[ratirt]

that really doesn't help the other users claims, if you can run that one, you can run a 5800x3d, like i said there is no point to this silicon at this price

There is since it is cheaper than a 5800x3d. Maybe they dont need 3D processor due to their graphics card not requiring it. Just because you don't see a reason to get it since you are a gamer, it doesn't mean others wont find that particular CPU valuable for them in one way or the other. I'm 100% sure that the price for 5700X will drop soon. It has just been released so no wonder it is at that level. It will drop though. It would seem that the 5700X runs cooler than a 5800X so that may be a factor in purchasing 5700X instead.

 

[Bomby569]

There is since it is cheaper than a 5800x3d.

from the review itself:

• Ryzen 7 5800X offers better price/performance for $10 more
• Intel Core i5-12600K (6+4 cores) is cheaper and faster

don't go crazy with all that money from the savings. A coffee maybe

 

[bug]

from the review itself:

• Ryzen 7 5800X offers better price/performance for $10 more
• Intel Core i5-12600K (6+4 cores) is cheaper and faster

don't go crazy with all that money from the savings. A coffee maybe

You kinda mixed 5800X and 5800X3D before
I also think the number of users that wouldn't spend $10 for the extra HP (even if they underclock/undervolt to keep TDP in check) has to be rather small.
Fwiw 5800X3D is also a tough proposition. 5900X is cheaper and almost always faster.

 

[Pepamami]

Wake up and smell the roses: AMD is nickel and diming you now that they have competitive products, just like Intel did before.
For the performance offered, this is priced too high. It will make sense in select scenarios, but this is not "highly recommended" all things considered.

Coz 1700 socket and 12get CPU are not too shinny too? 1700 socket has bad cover, 12gen have E-cores and Higher power draw?
I already told here, I had to drop 12600K and pick 5800X myself, coz of badly made 1700 socket brackets (I dont want to buy special Cover from ThermalRight or thermal grizzly to fix it)

Ofc 5700X gonna be "highly recommended", since it has affordable motherboards, and low TDP, that suits most people.

It's a must buy for someone holding a cheap A320, and a cheap cooler, and don't want to do anything to it, because they buy everything cheaply cheap and are somewhat lazy and i assume not very well informed or tech savvy, but somehow need 8 core for productivity and have a big budget for a CPU (this is not exactly the cheapest CPU). Oh and this cheap bastard, that only goes crazy with it's money on cpu's, somehow don't care about value, or resale value, because nothing makes sense with this person

I am not asking to place 5950X on a cheap A320.
I have 3600 and its running on A320M-K totally fine, and cheap Alpine AM4 cooler has decent/ok quality.
Why I cant place 5700X on it? It fits with 3600 TDP perfectly. And fits with A320M-K perfectly too.
But I am not sure, that A320M-K will handle 5800X.
Most people wont even notice difference between 5800X and 5700X in performance, but I am sure they will notice difference in temperatures.