Can you change my mind??? Monitor upgrade - 1080P to 1440P high refresh or 4k high refresh??

Vayra86 · Oct 17, 2022

UW 34" 3440x1440

1440p and nearly 1440p performance requirements, but dual screen without bezel if you need it for productivity (2x full height 1440 windows). I'm really happy with this res, and display height is also extremely manageable at desktop setups. Curve or no curve btw... I would let that be a combo with the display type. IPS: no curve (required). VA: curve preferable.

Its the 'next' sweet spot up from 1440p 27" really.

4K is beyond it, and mostly due to height and (not the) ideal PPI at typical sizes.

ir_cow · Oct 17, 2022

Still waiting for DisplayPort 2.0 to come out. No point in going to 4k if you are limited to chroma 4:2:0 at higher refresh.

Vario · Oct 17, 2022

Bill_Bright said:
I voted for you missed something.

Any monitor I buy must have a stand with height adjustment.

My desk surface is at a fixed height. The keyboard/mouse tray is at a fixed height. My chair height is adjustable but set according to the length of my legs to avoid strain on my lower back.

Therefore, to ensure a proper height for my monitors, thus minimizing strain on my upper back, neck and shoulders, the monitor stands must have height adjustment. Period.

I use Ergotron LX arms with all my screens now. I have a spinal cord condition and it is extremely helpful for minimizing strain. As I am presently a research student (Chemistry), I can spend longer hours studying without strain. I also have an adjustable desk, it is the Husky adjustable height workbench that Home Depot sells. The Egotron LX (I use the 13" variant) arm clamps onto it nicely. I can vary the height of the desk and the monitor independently as needed.

A Computer Guy · Oct 17, 2022

I get by with 4K @60Hz since it's a bit cheaper, I don't play competitive shooters much anymore, and everything is larger when running 1080p/1440p for my old eyes.

Bill_Bright · Oct 17, 2022

Vario said:
I use Ergotron LX arms with all my screens now.

First came across those years ago through a friend who likes to stand at his desk. They are very pricey - but very well made too.

phill · Oct 19, 2022

Well I found this whilst doing a bit of Googling....

What does anyone think??

So, do you think this would tick all the boxes??

oxrufiioxo · Oct 19, 2022

phill said:
Well I found this whilst doing a bit of Googling....

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What does anyone think??

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So, do you think this would tick all the boxes??

It's a super solid monitor with very poor contrast some units can have terrible backlight bleed so make sure they have a good return policy.

Super Firm Tofu · Oct 19, 2022

phill said:
Well I found this whilst doing a bit of Googling....

What does anyone think??

So, do you think this would tick all the boxes??

Price seems good - better than through local retail, or direct from Dell here in the states. Add three, and hit the Buy Button! :rockout:

phill · Oct 19, 2022

oxrufiioxo said:
It's a super solid monitor with very poor contrast some units can have terrible backlight bleed so make sure they have a good return policy.

Just so that I'm clear on the contrast side of things, I'm going from 10 year old + monitors so is this something I should avoid because of it or should I buy? Backlight bleed doesn't sound so great either and I'm not 100% on what that means so to Google I go!!

Chomiq · Oct 19, 2022

phill said:
Just so that I'm clear on the contrast side of things, I'm going from 10 year old + monitors so is this something I should avoid because of it or should I buy? Backlight bleed doesn't sound so great either and I'm not 100% on what that means so to Google I go!!

Dell S2721DGF Review

The Dell S2721DGF is a 27 inch, 1440p monitor gaming monitor with a fast refresh rate and great gaming features. The IPS panel delivers wide viewing angles, and ...

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DGFA is just european variant.

phill · Oct 19, 2022

So is it a good buy or is there something else around for that price range that I should be looking at or considering? At the moment I have a couple Iiyama B2776HDS screens from a friend and my three LG Flatron IPS231 screens that I use for gaming on.. My other Iiyama screens Prolite model are E2473HDS which I know are rather old...

Anyone's thoughts??

Vayra86 · Oct 19, 2022

phill said:
Just so that I'm clear on the contrast side of things, I'm going from 10 year old + monitors so is this something I should avoid because of it or should I buy? Backlight bleed doesn't sound so great either and I'm not 100% on what that means so to Google I go!!

Every IPS is stuck to 1000:1 static contrast. Some may do 1100 or 800 but sacrificed something in that process. Only FALD can circumvent IPS contrast limitations.

Its fine for office/well lit rooms. But you will notice drawbacks when the ambient light is going darker. Even a little.

That said most TN wasnt any better, possibly even worse and much less color accurate. It just stands out more with IPS because of its high color accuracy, ironically.

phill said:
So is it a good buy or is there something else around for that price range that I should be looking at or considering? At the moment I have a couple Iiyama B2776HDS screens from a friend and my three LG Flatron IPS231 screens that I use for gaming on.. My other Iiyama screens Prolite model are E2473HDS which I know are rather old...

Anyone's thoughts??

The 4 Best 1440p Monitors - Fall 2024

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oxrufiioxo · Oct 19, 2022

phill said:
Just so that I'm clear on the contrast side of things, I'm going from 10 year old + monitors so is this something I should avoid because of it or should I buy? Backlight bleed doesn't sound so great either and I'm not 100% on what that means so to Google I go!!

It uses an LG nano ips panel that seems to sacrifice contrast for responsiveness. That specific Panel seems to be closer to 800:1 compared to 1200:1 on some of the newer rapid IPS panels like the MAG274QRF.

How much a monitor having a low contrast will bother you comes down to how much you like black to be black instead of grey in a dark room. I have the LG 27GN850-B which is very similar to the Dell you linked. I like it but I've also used the msi montior and it's quite a bit better but also has a large variance unit to unit as far as quality so I just wouldn't buy any of them unless they came with very good return policy.

ThrashZone · Oct 19, 2022

ir_cow said:
Still waiting for DisplayPort 2.0 to come out. No point in going to 4k if you are limited to chroma 4:2:0 at higher refresh.

This^^^^

Just as obvious as your non budget :laugh:

Athlonite · Oct 19, 2022

I voted 1440p 120Hz or greater the difference between 1080p and 1440p is night and day but between 1440p and 2160p is not so much and you'll atleast be assured of a decent fps on 1440p

ThrashZone · Oct 19, 2022

Hi,
I don't see 1440 as a relevant "upgrade" atm
But if you just want to spend just to have a different display to compare well there it is.

Later you can go 4k-8k and have all to do reviews with :rockout:

phill · Oct 19, 2022

Most of those screens are double the money compared to the Dell, so we'll see how we do when they turn up on Friday

Hopefully......

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
I don't see 1440 as a relevant "upgrade" atm
But if you just want to spend just to have a different display to compare well there it is.

Later you can go 4k-8k and have all to do reviews with

I think it might be a big difference from 1080P that I've been stuck with for so long but on top of that, there's the case now of monitors to be given away so I don't think I could grumble!!

lol

dgianstefani · Oct 19, 2022

I have to say - the new OLED HFR ultrawides are pretty great.

I'm holding off on a monitor upgrade until 4K OLED 165 Hz +

1440p 240Hz is a very nice compromise however.

ThrashZone · Oct 19, 2022

phill said:
Most of those screens are double the money compared to the Dell, so we'll see how we do when they turn up on Friday Hopefully......

I think it might be a big difference from 1080P that I've been stuck with for so long but on top of that, there's the case now of monitors to be given away so I don't think I could grumble!! lol

Hi,
In your case spec's say 23" diagonal with 1080 I personally have 24" you'd be spending for a total of 4" diagonal more per monitor
Sorry but me thinks this is a wasted venture x3 is a whopping 12" total diagonal screenage for how much $$

I'm sure you or someone else in your family can use these about to be extra monitors so no biggie.

dgianstefani said:
I have to say - the new OLED HFR ultrawides are pretty great.

I'm holding off on a monitor upgrade until 4K OLED 165 Hz +

This ^^^

phill · Oct 19, 2022

I don't mind the size to be honest, if I get older and my eyes go, hopefully that'll help

I'm sure I can find someone that might need some more screens... I think there's 4 or 5 here I could 'sell' on

ThrashZone · Oct 19, 2022

Hi,
What would annoy me the most on a swap like this besides the $$ is all my 1080 wallpapers are now shit for such little added screenage :laugh:

shovenose · Oct 19, 2022

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
What would annoy me the most on a swap like this besides the $$ is all my 1080 wallpapers are now shit for such little added screenage

This is the biggest complaint I had when my 4K Dell monitor showed up this week. I needed a new wallpaper

phill · Oct 19, 2022

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
What would annoy me the most on a swap like this besides the $$ is all my 1080 wallpapers are now shit for such little added screenage

shovenose said:
This is the biggest complaint I had when my 4K Dell monitor showed up this week. I needed a new wallpaper

Well I should be covered, I don't really use wall paper!!

dgianstefani · Oct 19, 2022

https://www.viewsonic.com/global/products/lcd/XG341C-2K this is looking pretty spicy. But seems like a half measure - I'll upgrade straight to OLED.

Ruru · Oct 19, 2022

4K60 is my next monitor. I play many games which are more than playable at 60fps and if the game is too demanding for 1080 Ti to run at 4K, there's no scaling issues if running at 1080p.

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Can you change my mind??? Monitor upgrade - 1080P to 1440P high refresh or 4k high refresh??

What monitor would you go for??

1440P 60Hz

4K 60Hz

1440P 120Hz or faster

4k 120Hz or faster

Something completely different?!

You what?? 1080P 60Hz is perfect!!

Did I miss something??.....

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