Windows 12

ARF · Nov 6, 2022

I think is time now for Windows 12.

What features would you want to see?
DirectX 13 with unlimited detail technology?
Improved DirectStorage, so fast PCIe SSDs are properly utilised?
Fixed scaling with high-DPI monitors like 8K?

windows 12 release date - Google Search

Minxie · Nov 6, 2022

Lmao it's not launching until at least 2027, if at all, and if it will even be called Windows 12.

qubit · Nov 6, 2022

ARF said:
unlimited detail technology?

What do you mean by that?

l’m looking forward to Windows 13 as 13 is one of my favourite numbers.

TheoneandonlyMrK · Nov 6, 2022

ARF said:
I think is time now for Windows 12.

What features would you want to see?
DirectX 13 with unlimited detail technology?
Improved DirectStorage, so fast PCIe SSDs are properly utilised?
Fixed scaling with high-DPI monitors like 8K?

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windows 12 release date - Google Search

3 control panels because 2 are passe, oh and a edgier browser , plus direct Gaming turbo, a new initiative that allows you to game at 9000+ FPS on any display or GPU.

Plus UI updates to make it harder to find anything and at least four clicks instead of the usual three to start any App.

Easy Rhino · Nov 6, 2022

TheoneandonlyMrK said:
3 control panels because 2 are passe, oh and a edgier browser , plus direct Gaming turbo, a new initiative that allows you to game at 9000+ FPS on any display or GPU.

Plus UI updates to make it harder to find anything and at least four clicks instead of the usual three to start any App.

Don't forget the required advertisement view before you can launch any app :laugh:

ARF · Nov 6, 2022

qubit said:
What do you mean by that?

Unreal 5 has Nanite which is maybe the beginning in this direction.
Nanite Virtualized Geometry in Unreal Engine | Unreal Engine 5.0 Documentation

Multiple orders of magnitude increase in geometry complexity, higher triangle and objects counts than has been possible before in real-time
Frame budgets are no longer constrained by polycounts, draw calls, and mesh memory usage
Now possible to directly import film-quality source arts, such as ZBrush sculpts and photogrammetry scans
Use high-poly detailing rather than baking detail into normal map textures
Level of Detail (LOD) is automatically handled and no longer requires manual setup for individual mesh's LODs
Loss of quality is rare or non-existent, especially with LOD transitions

Unlimited Detail:

ThrashZone · Nov 6, 2022

Hi,
MS has the uncanny ability to make older os's look better with new releases :laugh:

ARF · Nov 6, 2022

Minxie said:
Lmao it's not launching until at least 2027, if at all, and if it will even be called Windows 12.

I don't think Windows 11 will receive a warm welcome, so it will be a transition OS similar to Vista and 8.

We need a new OS like Windows 7 which is probably the greatest Windows of all time.

And maybe every year a new release, like Android and iOS.

r9 · Nov 6, 2022

qubit said:
What do you mean by that?

l’m looking forward to Windows 13 as 13 is one of my favourite numbers.

It's 69 for me.

Minxie · Nov 6, 2022

Easy Rhino said:
Don't forget the required advertisement view before you can launch any app

what advertisements?

>linux advocate

oh ok bye

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
MS has the uncanny ability to make older os's look better with new releases

Disagree, 7 looks like garbage. Vista SP2 was Windows UI design at its peak. 11 is second best.

TheoneandonlyMrK said:
3 control panels because 2 are passe, oh and a edgier browser , plus direct Gaming turbo, a new initiative that allows you to game at 9000+ FPS on any display or GPU.

Plus UI updates to make it harder to find anything and at least four clicks instead of the usual three to start any App.

am i supposed to laugh? if so, my laugh will be delivered in 3 business neptunian years

P4-630 · Nov 6, 2022

Windows 12 requirements: TPM 3.0 .... :banghead:

Minxie · Nov 6, 2022

P4-630 said:
Windows 12 requirements: TPM 3.0 ....

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AMD and Intel have done what MS have been asking them to do since 2012, which is include hardware support for VBS, in their 8th gen Core and 2nd gen Ryzen generations. 11 exists just to finally push those requirements. Doubt future versions would require anything special, at worst they would support them (such as Pluton). Or again, if there even will be any future versions for the foreseeable future...

and before any of you go 'well they can just make Pluton a requirement!' - cutting off some old CPUs out of your supported processors list is one thing, but denying 99% of people access to your OS because their CPUs don't have Pluton is extremely idiotic and, despite popular consensus stating the otherwise, Microsoft is not dumb to do that.

ThrashZone · Nov 6, 2022

Minxie said:
Disagree, 7 looks like garbage. Vista SP2 was Windows UI design at its peak. 11 is second best.

Hi,
There was very little difference in the two os's there
I liked vista to but 7 only added libraries and aero effects so they aren't all that different but you went to far back :laugh:

qubit · Nov 6, 2022

@ARF l thought you meant that. Unlimited Detail was debunked years ago as they were literally claiming an infinity of detail which is impossible. There was a thread on TPU that went on for miles until the mods couldn't take it anymore lol.

Nanite is something else entirely and not connected with UD.

ARF · Nov 6, 2022

qubit said:
infinity of detail which is impossible

Unlimited detail is possible and very easy and simple. Use Direct Storage to feed with TBs of textures, and AI to render frames (FSR for example). Bingo

R-T-B · Nov 6, 2022

ARF said:
Unlimited detail is possible and very easy and simple. Use Direct Storage to feed with TBs of textures, and AI to render frames (FSR for example). Bingo

That's not unlimited. I guess you could procedural generate from some data sets to get true unlimited, but it'd be pretty pointless. Diminishing returns and all.

Shihab · Nov 6, 2022

ARF said:
Unlimited detail is possible and very easy and simple. Use Direct Storage to feed with TBs of textures, and AI to render frames (FSR for example).

Or implement any procedural gen algorithm...
Wonder if someone ever made a wonky, fractal-based, abstract art game.

R-T-B · Nov 6, 2022

Minxie said:
what advertisements?

SIGN INTO XBOX NOW!

Shihab said:
Or implement any procedural gen algorithm...
Wonder if someone ever made a wonky, fractal-based, abstract art game.

With AI, soon games will be as boring as life!

Shihab · Nov 6, 2022

R-T-B said:
With AI, soon games will be as boring as life!

Hey! At least instead of crashes and ugly graphical corruptions, bugs will manifest as the computer equivalent of an acid trip...

Reject determinism, embrace undefined behaviour!

Wasaki · Nov 6, 2022

I really don't care about any new stuff just looking for very stable OS called Windows XO.

qubit · Nov 6, 2022

ARF said:
Unlimited detail is possible and very easy and simple. Use Direct Storage to feed with TBs of textures, and AI to render frames (FSR for example). Bingo

Not quite so easy and simple as you make it sound. Anyway, unlimited detail according to that company literally meant infinite detail, even on a smartphone. This is impossible on any hardware. That video you linked to is one of the snake oil ones made at the time.

freeagent · Nov 6, 2022

Were they still planning to use a subscription windows service with 12 or was that going to wait for a future release?

If not a sub service I bet it will be more “secure” than 11, offer more advertising, and be a little prettier.

I actually liked Vista and thought it was quite pretty. The thing with Vista64 was you pretty much needed the best hardware available at the time I think. 7 was easier to run, but maybe not quite as pretty iirc. I could be mistaken though as it has been eons since I have used Vista.. pretty much didn’t look back after 7 :laugh:

68Olds · Nov 6, 2022

I haven't even tried Win11 yet, so I'm certainly not ready for Win12.

Vista's biggest problem was MS's unrealistic minimum required RAM (512MB). I ran Vista 32bit with 2GB of RAM for a while without issue. It was even better after I put 4GB in the system.

(Favorite number is 42).

qubit · Nov 6, 2022

freeagent said:
I actually liked Vista and thought it was quite pretty.

I think it had the best looking interface of all the Windows versions to date. Shame it was so much maligned. It was quite stable after the patches, but it was always on the slow side. W7 was Vista v2.

ARF · Nov 6, 2022

R-T-B said:
That's not unlimited. I guess you could procedural generate from some data sets to get true unlimited, but it'd be pretty pointless. Diminishing returns and all.

I'd say it is not needed because in a game you won't walk and stare with infinite zoom at the small pebbles on the ground.

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Windows 12

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Yes

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I will decide after first reviews

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