Based on Microsoft's "We continue to streamline the Windows experience by removing the Start Menu and Taskbar altogether plus further dumbing down Explorer", perhaps I'm actually already using it?...
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| Motherboard | Gigabyte Z370M D3H rev. 1.0 |
| Cooling | be quite! Dark Rock Slim 180W TDP (The Silent Wings 3 120mm Fan) |
| Memory | Corsair Red Line 8x2 16GB 3000MHz (NoOC) DDR4-3000 15-17-17-35 (CMK16GX4M2B3000C15R) V1.35 ver 4.24 |
| Video Card(s) | NVIDIA GeForce MSI 980 Ti Golden Edition (NoOC)| Spare: GTX 650 Ti 1 GB |
| Storage | Samsung 870 EVO 4 TB | Samsung 860 EVO 1 TB | Cold Backup: WDC Black 930 GiB WD1003FZEX |
| Display(s) | Asus VG248QZ 1920x1080 144hz 24" (Current: 60hz) |
| Case | Corsair Air 540 |
| Audio Device(s) | Realtek ALC892 |
| Power Supply | Corsair 850W RMi |
| Mouse | Logitech M187 wireless (First day of use 30-9-2021) |
| Keyboard | Logitech K270 wireless |
| Software | Windows 10 21H2 LTSC 2021 / Linux: Candidates: Bazzite - Linux MX - Tuxedo - Kubuntu |
Imagine they call "Windows 1 Remake" like they do with games?
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| Motherboard | Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master |
| Cooling | Noctua NH-U12A 2 fans + Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme + 5 case fans |
| Memory | 32GB DDR5 Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 6000MT/s CL36 |
| Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio |
| Storage | Samsung 980 Pro 1TB + 970 Evo 500GB + 850 Pro 512GB + 860 Evo 1TB x2 |
| Display(s) | 23.8" Dell S2417DG 165Hz G-Sync 1440p |
| Case | Be quiet! Silent Base 600 - Window |
| Audio Device(s) | Panasonic SA-PMX94 / Realtek onboard + B&O speaker system / Harman Kardon Go + Play / Logitech G533 |
| Power Supply | Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750W |
| Mouse | Logitech MX Anywhere 2 Laser wireless |
| Keyboard | RAPOO E9270P Black 5GHz wireless |
| Software | Windows 11 |
| Benchmark Scores | Cinebench R23 (Single Core) 1936 @ stock Cinebench R23 (Multi Core) 23006 @ stock |
I won't be upgrading right away, I'll wait at least 6 months or even longer if there's not much difference with gaming vs windows 11.
If my hardware officially supports it!
TPM 3.0? nohave...
If my hardware officially supports it!
TPM 3.0? nohave...
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| Motherboard | x570 unify |
| Cooling | Noctua NH-U12A |
| Memory | 32GB 3600 mhz |
| Video Card(s) | asrock 6800xt challenger D |
| Storage | Sabarent rocket 4.0 2TB, MX 500 2TB |
| Display(s) | Asus 1440p144 27" |
| Case | Old arse cooler master 932 |
| Power Supply | Corsair 1200w platinum |
| Mouse | *squeak* |
| Keyboard | Some old office thing |
| Software | Manjaro |
Disagree, the biggest issue with vista was MS's new driver requirements and the lack of enforcement allowing manufacturers to repackage XP drivers that caused instability.I haven't even tried Win11 yet, so I'm certainly not ready for Win12.
Vista's biggest problem was MS's unrealistic minimum required RAM (512MB). I ran Vista 32bit with 2GB of RAM for a while without issue. It was even better after I put 4GB in the system.
(Favorite number is 42).
Vista was very pretty, and by sp1 it was fine, but launch vista suffered from the same issue as windows ME, with similar results.
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Nothing better than the number of change, got such a rap over the years haha.
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| Cooling | αcool 560 rad - 2xPhanteks F140XP |
| Memory | Micron 32gb 3200mhz ddr4 |
| Video Card(s) | Colorful 3090 ADOC active backplate cooling |
| Storage | WD SN850 2tb ,HP EX950 1tb, WD UltraStar Helioseal 18tb+18tb |
| Display(s) | 24“ HUION pro 4k 10bit |
| Case | aluminium extrusions copper panels, 60 deliveries for every piece down to screws |
| Audio Device(s) | sony stereo mic, logitech c930, Gulikit pro 2 + xbox Series S controller, moded bt headphone 1200mAh |
| Power Supply | Corsair RM1000x |
| Mouse | pen display, no mouse no click |
| Keyboard | Microsoft aio media embedded touchpad (moded lithium battery 1000mAh) |
| Software | Win 11 23h2 build 22631 |
| Benchmark Scores | cine23 20000 |
I'd rather call it Windows 24 if it's being released on 2024.
I want grey theme in addition to dark and light. with file explorer background being greyish.
like this color:
I want grey theme in addition to dark and light. with file explorer background being greyish.
like this color:
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| System Name | 1.FortySe7en VR rig 2. intel teliscope rig 3.MSI GP72MVR Leopard Pro .E-52699, Xeon play thing |
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| Processor | 1.3900x @stock 2. 3700x . 3. i7 7700hq |
| Motherboard | 1.aorus x570 ultra 2. Rog b450 f,4 MR9A PRO ATX X99 |
| Cooling | 1.Hard tube loop, cpu and gpu 2. Hard loop cpu and gpu 4 360 AIO |
| Memory | 1.Gskill neo @3600 32gb 2.corsair ven 32gb @3200 3. 16gb hyperx @2400 4 64GB 2133 in quad channel |
| Video Card(s) | 1.GIGABYTE RTX 3080 WaterForce WB 2. Aorus RTX2080 3. 1060 3gb. 4 Arc 770LE 16 gb |
| Storage | 1 M.2 500gb , 2 3tb HDs 2. 256gb ssd, 3tbHD 3. 256 m.2. 1tb ssd 4. 2gb ssd |
| Display(s) | 1.LG 50" UHD , 2 MSI Optix MAG342C UWHD. 3.17" 120 hz display 4. Acer Preditor 144hz 32inch.z |
| Case | 1. Thermaltake P5 2. Thermaltake P3 4. some cheapo case that should not be named. |
| Audio Device(s) | 1 Onboard 2 Onboard 3 Onboard 4. onboard. |
| Power Supply | 1.seasonic gx 850w 2. seasonic gx 750w. 4 RM850w |
| Mouse | 1 ROG Gladius 2 Corsair m65 pro |
| Keyboard | 1. ROG Strix Flare 2. Corsair F75 RBG 3. steelseries RBG |
| VR HMD | rift and rift S and Quest 2. |
| Software | 1. win11 pro 2. win11 pro 3, win11 home 4 win11 pro |
| Benchmark Scores | 1.7821 cb20 ,cb15 3442 1c 204 cpu-z 1c 539 12c 8847 |
Oh No not again I've only just got use't to W10, I've W11 on my lappy and intel rigg and I'm like a chicken on crack who's lost its head, it took me 3 days just to find the NVidia control Pannel and delete.
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| Motherboard | ASUS ROG STRIX B550-I GAMING - ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero X570 |
| Cooling | Noctua NH-L9x65 SE-AM4a - NH-D15 chromax.black with IPPC Industrial 3000 RPM 120/140 MM fans. |
| Memory | G.SKILL TRIDENT Z ROYAL GOLD/SILVER 32 GB (2 x 16 GB and 4 x 8 GB) 3600 MHz CL14-15-15-35 1.45 volts |
| Video Card(s) | GIGABYTE RTX 4060 OC LOW PROFILE - GIGABYTE RTX 4090 GAMING OC |
| Storage | Samsung 980 PRO 1 TB + 2 TB - Samsung 870 EVO 4 TB - 2 x WD RED PRO 16 GB + WD ULTRASTAR 22 TB |
| Display(s) | Asus 27" TUF VG27AQL1A and a Dell 24" for dual setup |
| Case | Phanteks Enthoo 719/LUXE 2 BLACK |
| Audio Device(s) | Onboard on both boards |
| Power Supply | Phanteks Revolt X 1200W |
| Mouse | Logitech G903 Lightspeed Wireless Gaming Mouse |
| Keyboard | Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum |
| Software | WINDOWS 10 PRO 64 BITS on both systems |
| Benchmark Scores | Se more about my 2 in 1 system here: kortlink.dk/2ca4x |
Guys haven't you been reading about this news. Next will be called macdows. Mac and Microsoft has been in a collaborative efforts to make it all better. They call it macdows as said before.
Well more seriously. I just wish for a upgraded windows 7. Windows 7 still stands as the best windows in my opinion. It's was deffently the windows I liked the most. So I don't know about windows 12. I haven't even tried windows 11 yet.
Well more seriously. I just wish for a upgraded windows 7. Windows 7 still stands as the best windows in my opinion. It's was deffently the windows I liked the most. So I don't know about windows 12. I haven't even tried windows 11 yet.
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| Cooling | αcool 560 rad - 2xPhanteks F140XP |
| Memory | Micron 32gb 3200mhz ddr4 |
| Video Card(s) | Colorful 3090 ADOC active backplate cooling |
| Storage | WD SN850 2tb ,HP EX950 1tb, WD UltraStar Helioseal 18tb+18tb |
| Display(s) | 24“ HUION pro 4k 10bit |
| Case | aluminium extrusions copper panels, 60 deliveries for every piece down to screws |
| Audio Device(s) | sony stereo mic, logitech c930, Gulikit pro 2 + xbox Series S controller, moded bt headphone 1200mAh |
| Power Supply | Corsair RM1000x |
| Mouse | pen display, no mouse no click |
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| Motherboard | Gigabyte X570 Aurus Pro Wifi |
| Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black |
| Memory | 32GB(2x16GB) Patriot Viper DDR4-3200C16 |
| Video Card(s) | EVGA RTX 3060 Ti |
| Storage | Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB (Boot/OS)|Hynix Platinum P41 2TB (Games) |
| Display(s) | Gigabyte G27F |
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| Audio Device(s) | Logitech Z625 2.1 | cheapo gaming headset when mic is needed |
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| Keyboard | Redragon K512 Shiva replaced a Corsair K70 Lux - Blue on Black |
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Windows 12 should be a decent release according to the typical M$ cadence going back to at least Windows 95. Every other major release is not so good for at least the first year and gradually gets better until boom a new major release comes out that fixes everything or nearly everything.
IMO, both the RAM requirements and the driver issues made Vista a train wreck initially. It certainly got a LOT better with SP1. The 64bit version was pretty darn good if you threw at least 4 GB of RAM at it. At that time, 4 GB was a lot of RAM!
I have zero nostalgia for Windows ME. To me, it was horrible any way you sliced it. I remember Windows 98SE being the breath of life Windows 98 needed because 98 was so BAD. Microsoft then went backwards with ME, maybe not 98 initial release bad, but terrible anyway. I spent many hours downgrading ME users to 98SE, right up until Windows XP launched. XP changed everything. I can remember the first BETA release, it was already 10 times better than any consumer Windows OS before that time.
IMO, both the RAM requirements and the driver issues made Vista a train wreck initially. It certainly got a LOT better with SP1. The 64bit version was pretty darn good if you threw at least 4 GB of RAM at it. At that time, 4 GB was a lot of RAM!
I have zero nostalgia for Windows ME. To me, it was horrible any way you sliced it. I remember Windows 98SE being the breath of life Windows 98 needed because 98 was so BAD. Microsoft then went backwards with ME, maybe not 98 initial release bad, but terrible anyway. I spent many hours downgrading ME users to 98SE, right up until Windows XP launched. XP changed everything. I can remember the first BETA release, it was already 10 times better than any consumer Windows OS before that time.
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Windows 11 is such a crap. Maybe the worst Windows since Vista and 8 which both had disappointing performance. One was with heavy system requirements, while the other lacked key features like the Start.
Windows 11 is no different - it doesn't run officially on most CPUs that are currently in the world, and lacks features - small icons in the Taskbar, clock with seconds in the time/date window in bottom right corner... and many more.
It is a shitshow. Windows 11 is a shitshow.
Windows 11 is no different - it doesn't run officially on most CPUs that are currently in the world, and lacks features - small icons in the Taskbar, clock with seconds in the time/date window in bottom right corner... and many more.
It is a shitshow. Windows 11 is a shitshow.
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| Cooling | Noctua NH-U12A 2 fans + Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme + 5 case fans |
| Memory | 32GB DDR5 Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 6000MT/s CL36 |
| Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio |
| Storage | Samsung 980 Pro 1TB + 970 Evo 500GB + 850 Pro 512GB + 860 Evo 1TB x2 |
| Display(s) | 23.8" Dell S2417DG 165Hz G-Sync 1440p |
| Case | Be quiet! Silent Base 600 - Window |
| Audio Device(s) | Panasonic SA-PMX94 / Realtek onboard + B&O speaker system / Harman Kardon Go + Play / Logitech G533 |
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| Software | Windows 11 |
| Benchmark Scores | Cinebench R23 (Single Core) 1936 @ stock Cinebench R23 (Multi Core) 23006 @ stock |
Whining over a new windows version will never end......
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But with every next version it becomes ever more unpleasant and difficult for use. Windows 11 is like a passive genocide over the users.
I will be rolling back to Windows 10 on my main system.
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True, but increasingly the user is the product, not the OS.
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| Video Card(s) | Gigabyte 3060 ti gaming oc pro |
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DX versions or Direct Storage are not dependent on a new OS, they will come to W11 for sure
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| Memory | Crucial Ballistix 32Gb (8gb x 4) 3200 MHz DDR 4 |
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If Windows 12 is 'Endgame'
Then Windows Vista must have been 'Age Of Ultron'....nearly destroyed by their own creation
Then Windows Vista must have been 'Age Of Ultron'....nearly destroyed by their own creation
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Not it isn't. It's actually kick-ass. I will never go back to Windows 10. I'd sooner(and eagerly) go back to Windows 7. People claiming that Windows 11 is "crap" haven't taken the time to try it out to any great degree. And just an FYI, Vista was great after SP1 and perfect after SP2. You're right about 8/8.1 though, hot steamy moose muffins.
No, it isn't. Widely popular? No. But a "shitshow" it is not. Of course, I'm talking about my highly customized version of 11. I never run Windows in it's default config(and never will), but that is the same as Windows 10 and even 7. I actively(and forcefully) remove all of microsoft's bloatware/fluff/garbage they add in.
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| Motherboard | Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master |
| Cooling | Noctua NH-U12A 2 fans + Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme + 5 case fans |
| Memory | 32GB DDR5 Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 6000MT/s CL36 |
| Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio |
| Storage | Samsung 980 Pro 1TB + 970 Evo 500GB + 850 Pro 512GB + 860 Evo 1TB x2 |
| Display(s) | 23.8" Dell S2417DG 165Hz G-Sync 1440p |
| Case | Be quiet! Silent Base 600 - Window |
| Audio Device(s) | Panasonic SA-PMX94 / Realtek onboard + B&O speaker system / Harman Kardon Go + Play / Logitech G533 |
| Power Supply | Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750W |
| Mouse | Logitech MX Anywhere 2 Laser wireless |
| Keyboard | RAPOO E9270P Black 5GHz wireless |
| Software | Windows 11 |
| Benchmark Scores | Cinebench R23 (Single Core) 1936 @ stock Cinebench R23 (Multi Core) 23006 @ stock |
DirectStorage 1.1 Now Available - DirectX Developer Blog
The DirectStorage team is pleased to share that GPU decompression with DirectStorage 1.1 is available now. This new version of DirectStorage contains everything a developer needs to get started with GPU decompression. For more information on this feature and how it benefits gamers, check out our...
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DirectStorage 1.1 Coming Soon - DirectX Developer Blog
When we shared our first public release of DirectStorage on Windows to reduce CPU overhead and increase IO throughput, we also shared that GPU decompression was next on our roadmap. We are now in the final stretch of development and plan to release DirectStorage 1.1 with GPU Decompression to...
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| Memory | 32GB DDR5 Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 6000MT/s CL36 |
| Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio |
| Storage | Samsung 980 Pro 1TB + 970 Evo 500GB + 850 Pro 512GB + 860 Evo 1TB x2 |
| Display(s) | 23.8" Dell S2417DG 165Hz G-Sync 1440p |
| Case | Be quiet! Silent Base 600 - Window |
| Audio Device(s) | Panasonic SA-PMX94 / Realtek onboard + B&O speaker system / Harman Kardon Go + Play / Logitech G533 |
| Power Supply | Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750W |
| Mouse | Logitech MX Anywhere 2 Laser wireless |
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| Software | Windows 11 |
| Benchmark Scores | Cinebench R23 (Single Core) 1936 @ stock Cinebench R23 (Multi Core) 23006 @ stock |
This is why we need M$ to sit on their a$$es and write a proper OS.
What type of $hit $how is this?
How do you read it?
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I am sorry to see that M$ puts more efforts in trolling us than in making something good. It's a really sad world that we live in. Nightmare, absolute hell.
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| Motherboard | B450 AORUS M | Z390 UD |
| Cooling | EK AIO 360 - 6 fan action | AIO |
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I'll check it out.
Lately I've been playing with stripped down custom builds. It will be interesting to see what comes out.
Lately I've been playing with stripped down custom builds. It will be interesting to see what comes out.