NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Founders Edition

[DemonicRyzen666]

What do you mean it isn't energy efficient? If it draws the identical power to the 3080 but also being around 30% or so faster, it means it consumes less watts per frame compared to the 3080 which shows an improvement in efficiency.

because of the lower node of the 4nm, which is "tuned 5nm really"
When taken the lower node into account from the power difference from the two.
It's power effinicy is worse than RTX 3,000 series.

 

[Valantar]

because of the lower node of the 4nm, which is "tuned 5nm really"
When taken the lower node into account from the power difference from the two.
It's power effinicy is worse than RTX 3,000 series.

... "when you ignore one of the core characteristics of the new product, it's similar to the old product." Like, what? Where, exactly, can I go buy a 4nm Ampere card then? 'Cause unless those exist, what you're saying here makes no sense whatsoever. Nobody has said that the architecture is more efficient. What's been said is that the product is more efficient. And the product is produced on a specific node, and must be compared to other products on their respective nodes.

I am seeing a number of "4090 is great value", "glad I bought 4090" comments.

So maybe that was the intent, make products below halo so terrible, that not so great halo price is suddenly a bargain and people will jump a tier...

That's been the strategy for at least three generations now, yeah - keep hiking prices and launching weirly placed SKUs so that the stupidly priced top-tier ones look slightly less bad.

Well, see there’s this thing called hyperinflation. It’s what happens when every government on earth thinks printing over 50% of all their currency in 18 months is a good idea.

If you think what we're seeing now is anything even remotely related to hyperinflation, you really need to read up on that concept.

Combine them together with corporate greed and ever more expensive process modes and…..

I would q it up to corps wanting to keep their over inflated covid pricing and profits.

This is exactly it. What is this "inflation" that people are talking about? It's corporations raising prices. Not because costs have risen - though they have somewhat, they haven't to anywhere near the level of consumer price increases - but because they want more profits. Heck, corporate profits have risen more over the past few years than ever before. It really doesn't take a genius to see that that's the source of the problem.

 

[BNSoul]

So set this beast at 1440p 120 fps V-sync / G-sync and it will run at 50-60º and half the power draw of a 3090 Ti, impressive, pricing could be better but you just can't deny Nvidia craftmanship.

 

[EatingDirt]

Is +30% not huge? Then on top of that the 13900K is even faster than the 5800X3D.. don't really see the point of linking your own article that shows over 30% gains in multiple titles at 1440p then mocking a user's adjective describing your own article.

Publishing GPU reviews with a clear CPU bottleneck tells me much less about ALL these GPUs than it should.

Instead of complaining about a realistic gaming PC setup, you can simply ignore the 1440p results and look at the 4k results.

The games with +30% in the 4k results aren't included in this review. At the most you'd see an overall score of ~5% lower than it would've been with a 13900k or 5800X3D with the 4090. With the 4080, the subject of this review, the difference will be closer to 0-1%, so negligible.

 

[N3M3515]

If this card came in right at $799, I could see it being a worthwhile purchase.

My exact thoughts.

 

[Dirt Chip]

With that efficiency, 4060\ti will be awesome!
Give it to me with 12GB at 170-180w and price it whatever you want. I'll buy.

 

[W1zzard]

@W1zzard
Another small typo on the conclusion page.

"NVIDIA is betting big with on ray tracing with GeForce RTX 4080." An extra "with"?!

oh wow .. i had to read that part 3 times trying to find the mistake, and i've read the conclusion several times, and our proofreader, and most of our team members, too. fixing ..

 

[N3M3515]

pricing could be better

Really, like $50 less right? OMG.....

.....still waiting for a fast card at 700$ range.

It doesn't look that the 4000 700$ card (if they create one) will be any different to the existing 3000 gpus.

Wait for it, the 4060 Ti looks like

 

[cool_recep]

TSMC 4N is actually 5 nanometer or I'm wrong.

 

[skates]

Allow me to sum up the 4080 - "Special financing for 36 months with approved credit - see store for details"

 

[Upgrayedd]

Instead of complaining about a realistic gaming PC setup, you can simply ignore the 1440p results and look at the 4k results.

The games with +30% in the 4k results aren't included in this review. At the most you'd see an overall score of ~5% lower than it would've been with a 13900k or 5800X3D with the 4090. With the 4080, the subject of this review, the difference will be closer to 0-1%, so negligible.

Borderlands 3 has a 3fps difference between 1080p and 4K with a 4080 and 5800X. Less than 1 fps with a 4090.
Hitman 3 and Halo Infinite are nearly 20% faster with X3D at 4K. Which are both showing clear bottlenecks. It's not negligible

 

[N3M3515]

Well, see there’s this thing called hyperinflation. It’s what happens when every government on earth thinks printing over 50% of all their currency in 18 months is a good idea.
There’s also this thing called debt, your average gaming consoomer is a total idiot who will take out debt for almost anything, go look at the sheer amount of credit debt and buy now pay later debt has been racked up in the last year.
Combine them together with corporate greed and ever more expensive process modes and…..

Taking all of that into account this gpu would be max $900

 

[Garrus]

What do you mean it isn't energy efficient? If it draws the identical power to the 3080 but also being around 30% or so faster, it means it consumes less watts per frame compared to the 3080 which shows an improvement in efficiency.

Then that would be a pro for every video card release ever. Cross generational comparisons to determine efficiency don't make sense. You compare with the other cards in the gen. The GTX 1070 was 60-70 percent faster than the GTX 970, I didn't see people saying "most efficient ever".

 

[regs]

TSMC 4N

It's called N4, not 4N. And yes, it is a member of N5 process family. But none of them are 5 nm process. It's 28 nm process.

 

[Dr. Dro]

It isn't energy efficient. At full usage, it draws identical power to the 3080. Nothing has changed. Ridiculous point of view imo.

The 4080 is a '70 class die in size, and not expensive to make either. It's total greed. Sorry NVidia, mining is over. Wake up.

A $600 product for $1200 is a sad joke. We might have been ok with $800, but nothing more.

I agree with the pricing stance and the true positioning of this hardware, but the energy efficiency one is something I have to disagree with. Ada is exceptionally power efficient once you account for its performance per watt figures. The way to see it is; how much power does this hardware need to match its predecessor's performance? At 4K, W1zz's review places the RTX 3080-10G at 67% relative to this card, which means that it will need roughly 200W to do the same work that a 3080-10G will at 320. Very loose and bad maths (I'm terrible at it)

 

[trog100]

So set this beast at 1440p 120 fps V-sync / G-sync and it will run at 50-60º and half the power draw of a 3090 Ti, impressive, pricing could be better but you just can't deny Nvidia craftmanship.

that is exactly what i have done with my 4090.. 1440p 120 max fps and 80% max power.. it performs about the same as a 3090 but on far less power..

interestingly running 3dmark timespy on those settings it scores about the same as a 3090..

i bought it cos i fancied buying it not because i needed it..

trog

 

[gmn17]

4080 TI $1399 yes please

 

[wheresmycar]

• PERFORMANCE: better than expected
  
  
• EFFICIENCY: I guess its fantastic by "current standards" and beats last Gen!
  
  
• RT: Looks great. Usually i don't like going below 90fps in any gaming title hence I haven't bothered with RT at all. With the 4080's RT performance, definitely a key factor adding to the 4080 appeal
  
  
• NOISE/TEMPS: Looks great for an FE. I wouldn't have it any other way
  
  
• PRICE: What a joke! Puts all these nice perks to shame! Wouldn't touch it with a 10-foot telescopic ~25ft extended pole. Not even with rubber insulated gloves and the palm and fingers coated with a GPU-pandemic hand sanitizer

Maybe i'm just an uninformed/ignorant optimist... prior to actual availability I was hoping NVIDIA would come to it's senses and slash the 4080-16s MSRP to fill the sacked 4080-12s initial ask of $900. Yep an unsound expectation but its hardly completely irrational. Not that i'd buy it - I'm not going to budge from honouring my predetermined $800 gpu-upgrade.... not a dollar/cent more! Even $800 is a HUGE charitable sum of cash to throw at these famished beneficiaries and not long ago this sort of price tag was touching on flagship territory. Now it seems we'd be lucky to see a mid-ranged XX7X card for this sort of budget ceiling. Even AMD's second to the top 7900XT @ $900 is a middle finger to the price-2-performance conscientious buyer... what a terrible year for upgrades and the ~2022 upgrade hype/fervour remains shot and crippled in the knees.

 

[N3M3515]

AMD's second to the top 7900XT @ $900 is a middle finger to the price-2-performance conscientious buyer

That was on my mind, 7900xt seems more like a 6800XT replacement in terms of performance(estimated, we'll see), don't know why amd opted for the xtx branding since it would not even be on par with the 4090. The real naming should have been 7900xt & 7800xt.
Because now the 7800xt will seat behind the 7900xt that most probably will lose to the 4080. Then this gen x80 amd gpu will compete with x70 nvidia gpu.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

I'm happy to adjust 4090 pricing if someone sends me a USA in-stock link with a better price

edit: any 4090, not FE

I think should be noted what MSRP is for reviews along with the
Etailer price of more than one etailer because it was reported(front page news) that the 4090 MSRP is $1600 and the 4080 at $1200 and we all know newegg is all about the price gouging so its not surprising they inflated the price. What did Nvidia claim the
FEs msrp is at? (not the newegg price!)

 

[neatfeatguy]

I think should be noted what MSRP is for reviews along with the
Etailer price of more than one etailer because it was reported(front page news) that the 4090 MSRP is $1600 and the 4080 at $1200 and we all know newegg is all about the price gouging so its not surprising they inflated the price. What did Nvidia claim the
FEs msrp is at? (not the newegg price!)

Remember that Newegg themselves are not asking over MSRP or retail listed pricing for AIBs, only third party/scalpers are. I think listing a scalper's price is disingenuous by claiming it's a newegg price...even trying to suggest a lower ebay price isn't appropriate, if you ask me.

I think there should be a MSRP price column and a scalper's price column.

 

[EatingDirt]

Borderlands 3 has a 3fps difference between 1080p and 4K with a 4080 and 5800X. Less than 1 fps with a 4090.
Hitman 3 and Halo Infinite are nearly 20% faster with X3D at 4K. Which are both showing clear bottlenecks. It's not negligible

3 out of 25 will make a small impact if you understand how percentages work.

Average of 23% in those 3 games, that of which are 12% of the reviewed games in the 4k would give the 4090's score an increase of around 3%. That's it. So you'll end up with a 4090 at 125% of the performance of the 4080 to 128%.

The 4080's score will basically not change, because Borderlands 3 was the only game in which it was still limited by the 5800x (4% of games), and it likely wasn't limited by much (~5%) according to looking where it fell in the aggregate score.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Remember that Newegg themselves are not asking over MSRP or retail listed pricing for AIBs, only third party/scalpers are. I think listing a scalper's price is disingenuous by claiming it's a newegg price...even trying to suggest a lower ebay price isn't appropriate, if you ask me.

I think there should be a MSRP price column and a scalper's price column.

scalper prices seemed to have jumped to $3500. The rest of ask what the MSRP is...

 

[Zareek]

Great card, horrible/shameful pricing!

 

[@man_daddio]

@W1zzard Great review as always!

The card's performance and efficiency gains over the 3080 would be impressive but that becomes irrelevant when the next generation 80 card also come with around a 70% increase in price... I am really hoping that AMD's 7900 XTX and 7900 XT and Intel's future GPU cards really bring it and kick Nvidia's butt because at this point this is ridiculous with the insane prices.

You have a good point but it's kind of irrelevant if you would like to upgrade a GPU that has RT and other features the RTX cards have.

People either want the RTX features or they don't. At least that's a logical way to look at it.

But AMD has not had a great history in the drivers department. Nor having the greatest software implementation.

The next step down is going to be the 4070 TI or people can wait for the 4080 TI but who knows when that's going to be out?

Therefore right now obviously there's only the 4090 the 4080 and the 7900 XTX.

As much as I don't like the prices of the 4080/4090 they would still be the card I would be looking at if I needed an upgrade right now.

I just don't have any desire to go AMD at this time. Maybe the next generation they will be able to match Nvidia on everything and then I might consider.

scalper prices seemed to have jumped to $3500. The rest of ask what the MSRP is...

If I was to buy a RTX 4090 I would just buy a pre-built system. Here in the states you can get one with great hardware for under $4,000.

Then that would be a pro for every video card release ever. Cross generational comparisons to determine efficiency don't make sense. You compare with the other cards in the gen. The GTX 1070 was 60-70 percent faster than the GTX 970, I didn't see people saying "most efficient ever".

I don't care about power but that is much more of a concern today than it was when the 1070 came out.
Worrying about power is basically a EU thing. And other authoritarian areas that nanny everything and text people to death.