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Aha, I am running 5900X on B450! Oh, look! Intel has a new socket!
And I'm running a 5900x on a X370 Crosshair VI Extreme...going AM5 next year.
Aha, I am running 5900X on B450! Oh, look! Intel has a new socket!
How many processors did you change?And I'm running a 5900x on a X370 Crosshair VI Extreme...going AM5 next year.
System Name | The Little One |
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Processor | i5-11320H @4.4GHZ |
Motherboard | AZW SEI |
Cooling | Fan w/heat pipes + side & rear vents |
Memory | 64GB Crucial DDR4-3200 (2x 32GB) |
Video Card(s) | Iris XE |
Storage | WD Black SN850X 4TB m.2, Seagate 2TB SSD + SN850 4TB x2 in an external enclosure |
Display(s) | 2x Samsung 43" & 2x 32" |
Case | Practically identical to a mac mini, just purrtier in slate blue, & with 3x usb ports on the front ! |
Audio Device(s) | Yamaha ATS-1060 Bluetooth Soundbar & Subwoofer |
Power Supply | 65w brick |
Mouse | Logitech MX Master 2 |
Keyboard | Logitech G613 mechanical wireless |
Software | Windows 10 pro 64 bit, with all the unnecessary background shitzu turned OFF ! |
Benchmark Scores | PDQ |
How many processors did you change?
System Name | Skunkworks 3.0 |
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Processor | 5800x3d |
Motherboard | x570 unify |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U12A |
Memory | 32GB 3600 mhz |
Video Card(s) | asrock 6800xt challenger D |
Storage | Sabarent rocket 4.0 2TB, MX 500 2TB |
Display(s) | Asus 1440p144 27" |
Case | Old arse cooler master 932 |
Power Supply | Corsair 1200w platinum |
Mouse | *squeak* |
Keyboard | Some old office thing |
Software | Manjaro |
So you spent twice as much buying multiple CPUs to get comparable performance to what intel would have given you out of the box. Geneus!I got 1800x when it launched with the board, then 3950X and then 5900X. The long lasting socket was the reason i went AMD. I was tired of intel pushing new sockets every gen. It seems nothing has changed...
So you spent twice as much buying multiple CPUs to get comparable performance to what intel would have given you out of the box. Geneus!
Coulda just bought a 8700k and rocked it for 6 years.
System Name | Nebulon B |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D |
Motherboard | MSi PRO B650M-A WiFi |
Cooling | be quiet! Dark Rock 4 |
Memory | 2x 24 GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5-4800 |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB |
Storage | 2 TB Corsair MP600 GS, 2 TB Corsair MP600 R2 |
Display(s) | Dell S3422DWG, 7" Waveshare touchscreen |
Case | Kolink Citadel Mesh black |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech Z333 2.1 speakers, AKG Y50 headphones |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime GX-750 |
Mouse | Logitech MX Master 2S |
Keyboard | Logitech G413 SE |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Personally, I'm not worried about socket changes. By the time any normal person upgrades their PC, they'll need a new motherboard anyway, whether on Intel, or AMD.Personally I think it's not too bad with 3 processor ermm families? Coming to 1700 and if indeed the socket cooler compatibility remains the same and maybe also the retention plate thats not that bad imo
Processor | i5-6600K |
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Motherboard | Asus Z170A |
Cooling | some cheap Cooler Master Hyper 103 or similar |
Memory | 16GB DDR4-2400 |
Video Card(s) | IGP |
Storage | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB |
Display(s) | 2x Oldell 24" 1920x1200 |
Case | Bitfenix Nova white windowless non-mesh |
Audio Device(s) | E-mu 1212m PCI |
Power Supply | Seasonic G-360 |
Mouse | Logitech Marble trackball, never had a mouse |
Keyboard | Key Tronic KT2000, no Win key because 1994 |
Software | Oldwin |
Intel could actually make LGA1851 CPUs backwards compatible with the LGA1700 socket if they wanted.Good question. Maybe it will use the new socket even though it's still just a raptor lake.
Processor | Intel i9 9900K @5GHz w/ Corsair H150i Pro CPU AiO w/Corsair HD120 RBG fan |
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Motherboard | Asus Z390 Maximus XI Code |
Cooling | 6x120mm Corsair HD120 RBG fans |
Memory | Corsair Vengeance RBG 2x8GB 3600MHz |
Video Card(s) | Asus RTX 3080Ti STRIX OC |
Storage | Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB , 970 EVO 1TB, Samsung 850 EVO 1TB SSD, 10TB Synology DS1621+ RAID5 |
Display(s) | Corsair Xeneon 32" 32UHD144 4K |
Case | Corsair 570x RBG Tempered Glass |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard / Corsair Virtuoso XT Wireless RGB |
Power Supply | Corsair HX850w Platinum Series |
Mouse | Logitech G604s |
Keyboard | Corsair K70 Rapidfire |
Software | Windows 11 x64 Professional |
Benchmark Scores | Firestrike - 23520 Heaven - 3670 |
I played 1440p and didnt need to upgrade that much. Im rocking a 9900k @5GHz at 4K.I had a 8700k prior 1800x. I play 1440p friend. Im happy with my upgrade path. To be scammed by artificial new socket is to be a real genius...
System Name | Cyberline |
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Processor | Intel Core i7 2600k -> 12600k |
Motherboard | Asus P8P67 LE Rev 3.0 -> Gigabyte Z690 Auros Elite DDR4 |
Cooling | Tuniq Tower 120 -> Custom Watercoolingloop |
Memory | Corsair (4x2) 8gb 1600mhz -> Crucial (8x2) 16gb 3600mhz |
Video Card(s) | AMD RX480 -> RX7800XT |
Storage | Samsung 750 Evo 250gb SSD + WD 1tb x 2 + WD 2tb -> 2tb MVMe SSD |
Display(s) | Philips 32inch LPF5605H (television) -> Dell S3220DGF |
Case | antec 600 -> Thermaltake Tenor HTCP case |
Audio Device(s) | Focusrite 2i4 (USB) |
Power Supply | Seasonic 620watt 80+ Platinum |
Mouse | Elecom EX-G |
Keyboard | Rapoo V700 |
Software | Windows 10 Pro 64bit |
Personally, I'm not worried about socket changes. By the time any normal person upgrades their PC, they'll need a new motherboard anyway, whether on Intel, or AMD.
I'm just too used to seeing the usual two-generational socket changes from Intel. I used to wonder why, but by now, I've grown totally insensitive to the topic.
I played 1440p and didnt need to upgrade that much. Im rocking a 9900k @5GHz at 4K.
Imagine buying a 3600 when it launched because it was very good and cost effective workhorse. 3 or 4 years down the line you have some money in your pocket so you buy a 5800 or 5900 on sale and get a major upgrade with little cost. That's what motherboard compatibility allows. It doesn't need to happen when a new cpu launches, but a couple years down the line budget users have the option to go for an entire new performance tear without spending as much money.
System Name | Nebulon B |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D |
Motherboard | MSi PRO B650M-A WiFi |
Cooling | be quiet! Dark Rock 4 |
Memory | 2x 24 GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5-4800 |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB |
Storage | 2 TB Corsair MP600 GS, 2 TB Corsair MP600 R2 |
Display(s) | Dell S3422DWG, 7" Waveshare touchscreen |
Case | Kolink Citadel Mesh black |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech Z333 2.1 speakers, AKG Y50 headphones |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime GX-750 |
Mouse | Logitech MX Master 2S |
Keyboard | Logitech G413 SE |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
By "normal person" I mean someone who upgrades due to a need instead of a want. A non-enthusiast, if you will.Eh dont like the "any normal person" remark as to say those who dont are not normal and thus bad or something.
It's not illogical at all, but the question is, what do you gain by a CPU upgrade? Unless you're skipping at least 3-4 generations, not a lot. And by then, you'll need a motherboard on any platform.If we look at PCI-E speeds and how much it affects (read: not at all) the gpu performance, I think its not too illogical that given the option you just upgrade your cpu and leave the rest for what it is.
System Name | Main PC |
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Processor | 13700k |
Motherboard | Asrock Z690 Steel Legend D4 - Bios 13.02 |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15S |
Memory | 32 Gig 3200CL14 |
Video Card(s) | 4080 RTX SUPER FE 16G |
Storage | 1TB 980 PRO, 2TB SN850X, 2TB DC P4600, 1TB 860 EVO, 2x 3TB WD Red, 2x 4TB WD Red |
Display(s) | LG 27GL850 |
Case | Fractal Define R4 |
Audio Device(s) | Soundblaster AE-9 |
Power Supply | Antec HCG 750 Gold |
Software | Windows 10 21H2 LTSC |
But with boards half the price not necessarily worse, depends how often one upgrades their chip.Always the same song and dance with Intel, move the notches, maybe change some pins and give it a new name, god dammit!
System Name | Cyberline |
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Processor | Intel Core i7 2600k -> 12600k |
Motherboard | Asus P8P67 LE Rev 3.0 -> Gigabyte Z690 Auros Elite DDR4 |
Cooling | Tuniq Tower 120 -> Custom Watercoolingloop |
Memory | Corsair (4x2) 8gb 1600mhz -> Crucial (8x2) 16gb 3600mhz |
Video Card(s) | AMD RX480 -> RX7800XT |
Storage | Samsung 750 Evo 250gb SSD + WD 1tb x 2 + WD 2tb -> 2tb MVMe SSD |
Display(s) | Philips 32inch LPF5605H (television) -> Dell S3220DGF |
Case | antec 600 -> Thermaltake Tenor HTCP case |
Audio Device(s) | Focusrite 2i4 (USB) |
Power Supply | Seasonic 620watt 80+ Platinum |
Mouse | Elecom EX-G |
Keyboard | Rapoo V700 |
Software | Windows 10 Pro 64bit |
By "normal person" I mean someone who upgrades due to a need instead of a want. A non-enthusiast, if you will.
It's not illogical at all, but the question is, what do you gain by a CPU upgrade? Unless you're skipping at least 3-4 generations, not a lot. And by then, you'll need a motherboard on any platform.
I mean, you can measure the 10-20% difference between generations in benchmarks, but do you actually feel it?
Agreed, you have some advantages, but also some disadvantages.I got 1800x when it launched with the board, then 3950X and then 5900X. The long lasting socket was the reason i went AMD. I was tired of intel pushing new sockets every gen. It seems nothing has changed...
Yep, just fitted a 3700X to my old X370 MB. Noticeably faster than my 1700X in everything. AM5 socket will probably be used for Zen 6. Still I only upgrade every 4-5 years, so RL on Z690 would do me fine until Luna/Nova Lake come along.This is my point. The fact we can have a socket with more than 3 years maintaining compatibility is a huge plus!
System Name | PCGOD |
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Processor | AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz |
Motherboard | Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios |
Cooling | Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED |
Memory | 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V) |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X |
Storage | Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB |
Display(s) | NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter) |
Case | AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR |
Power Supply | Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3) |
Mouse | Roccat Kone XTD |
Keyboard | Roccat Ryos MK Pro |
Software | Windows 7 Pro 64 |
System Name | Nebulon B |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D |
Motherboard | MSi PRO B650M-A WiFi |
Cooling | be quiet! Dark Rock 4 |
Memory | 2x 24 GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5-4800 |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB |
Storage | 2 TB Corsair MP600 GS, 2 TB Corsair MP600 R2 |
Display(s) | Dell S3422DWG, 7" Waveshare touchscreen |
Case | Kolink Citadel Mesh black |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech Z333 2.1 speakers, AKG Y50 headphones |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime GX-750 |
Mouse | Logitech MX Master 2S |
Keyboard | Logitech G413 SE |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
That's why I specified which kind of buyer I'm talking about. PC building is definitely my hobby, and I buy loads more hardware than I need, but for that reason I don't qualify myself as a "normal" or "average" buyer. I wouldn't suggest anyone to do what I do, either, as 9 out of 10 people consider it a waste of money. There's a lot more people out there who only buy PC stuff when they need to because they don't care about hardware itself, they just want to play games with little to no fuss - they're the ones I was talking about.Well sure but again, that is a whole debate on how people spend their money, upgrading gpu's every year or bi-yearly or less, what is wise? what does the person want? is this their hobby? well then who cares etc etc.
With that example, you can also buy the 12400F now, and a used 12900K or a 13900K later, and it will be a huge jump. The difference between that and a 14900K won't be so big.But as per my example, if you buy a lower end cpu first with a decent motherboard and ram, like a 12400f or so, that is affordable and perfectly fine, upgrading later to a 2 generations newer cpu with more cores, that can be quite significant for for example games by then, RT benefits from more cores so maybe by then that would be all you need to get a solid system again.
System Name | GIGABYTE BLUE PRO |
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Processor | INTEL CORE i7-4770k |
Motherboard | GIGABYTE GA-Z87X-UD3H |
Cooling | noctua NH-D12L |
Memory | HyberX fury DDR3 32GB (4X8) |
Video Card(s) | ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 3060 AMP White Edition |
Storage | WD Blue SATA 1TB SSD, WD blue 1TB HDD, Seagate BarraCuda 4TB HDD |
Display(s) | Lenovo legion Y25-30 |
Case | GIGABYTE GZ-G1 PLUS |
Power Supply | GIGABYTE SUPERB 720 |
Mouse | Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse v2.0 |
Keyboard | Microsoft Wired Keyboard 600 |
Software | Windows 11 Pro |
That's 200$ per motherboard upgrade.Agreed, you have some advantages, but also some disadvantages.
Let me explain myself. You say that you left the 1800X, so also the 300 series motherboard. The 400 series is excluded because it was launched with the more powerful 2700X, plus the cheaper 8700K as a variant.
1. Can you get everything out of a PCIe 4.0 SSD beast?
2. Can you get everything out of an RX 6000/RTX3000 or better performance video card?
3. Do you have the features of the 500 series motherboards (IO ports, etc.)?
You changed three processors, all very expensive at launch, for what? Save a $100-150 motherboard? I can do this by reducing the consumption of soft drinks in 3-4 months.
Yeah not trying to start a fanboy war but Intel can get away with it since the CPUs are so fast for most normal applications. Look at 2017 era LGA1151 for example. Was faster than Zen, Zen+, and Zen2. Even Zen 3 (which was phased out almost 5 years after 1151 release) the i7s for that socket weren't that much slower than the $300 midrange Zen 3Personally, I'm not worried about socket changes. By the time any normal person upgrades their PC, they'll need a new motherboard anyway, whether on Intel, or AMD.
I'm just too used to seeing the usual two-generational socket changes from Intel. I used to wonder why, but by now, I've grown totally insensitive to the topic.
Exactly. People act like if your platform locked your hosed but in reality, it might be 2025-2026 by the time there's actually a CPU worthwhile of ditching LGA 1700With that example, you can also buy the 12400F now, and a used 12900K or a 13900K later, and it will be a huge jump. The difference between that and a 14900K won't be so big.
Processor | AMD Ryzen 9 5900X ||| Intel Core i7-3930K |
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Motherboard | ASUS ProArt B550-CREATOR ||| Asus P9X79 WS |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U14S ||| Be Quiet Pure Rock |
Memory | Crucial 2 x 16 GB 3200 MHz ||| Corsair 8 x 8 GB 1333 MHz |
Video Card(s) | MSI GTX 1060 3GB ||| MSI GTX 680 4GB |
Storage | Samsung 970 PRO 512 GB + 1 TB ||| Intel 545s 512 GB + 256 GB |
Display(s) | Asus ROG Swift PG278QR 27" ||| Eizo EV2416W 24" |
Case | Fractal Design Define 7 XL x 2 |
Audio Device(s) | Cambridge Audio DacMagic Plus |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus PX-850 x 2 |
Mouse | Razer Abyssus |
Keyboard | CM Storm QuickFire XT |
Software | Ubuntu |
Very few workloads scale well beyond 6 threads, except for batch-like jobs. But nearly every load scales better on faster cores vs. more cores, not to mention, makes applications much more responsive.Gamers don't need 6+ P cores. I'll trade 2 cores for DDR5-12000