WCG-TPU Cruncher's Hardware/Tech Support Discussion Thread

[thebluebumblebee]

I'm noticing something with WCG. I have 62 threads running, but I'm only getting <45 days runtime credit on WCG and the points credited is low. The points seem to be there on FreeDC however. I wonder if this is because of the "missing device" problem?

 

[phill]

Could well be @thebluebumblebee ?? I mentioned a little while ago that the points I had seemed low for what I thought I'd returned, but maybe some of the points haven't updated or some of the work units are pending validation still??

 

[thebluebumblebee]

Could well be @thebluebumblebee ?? I mentioned a little while ago that the points I had seemed low for what I thought I'd returned, but maybe some of the points haven't updated or some of the work units are pending validation still??

Notice the consistent shortages.

I might be observing this because I am not doing OPNG with its correlating up and down PPD.

 

[mstenholm]

Notice the consistent shortages.

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I might be observing this because I am not doing OPNG with its correlating up and down PPD.

I didn’t notice any discrepancy between BOINC Manager and Free-DC but WCG homepage is off by 2M. I assume that the BOINC Points in your table is taken from the WCG homepage. They still have some work cut out for them fixing various issues for sure.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

I assume that the BOINC Points in your table is taken from the WCG homepage.

WCG points/7, rounded to the nearest whole number.

I've posted this issue, with the chart, over at WCG's missing devices thread.

 

[phill]

WCG points/7, rounded to the nearest whole number.

I've posted this issue, with the chart, over at WCG's missing devices thread.

Please let us know if you get any feed back from the thread there Be interesting to see what they have to say....

 

[TRWOV]

Guys, has anyone any experience running mining GPUs for WCG? Is there a downside to it, other than the GPU might be on it's last legs and not last a lot more? (depending on previous usage, maintenance, cooling, etc.)

I just got an Asus 470 Mining for pretty cheap. I've seen a couple of guides to turn it into a 570 but I don't really have any need to game on it so I was wondering if I could just use it for boinc as is. Is there anything in the mining bios that would prevent it from working on GPU WUs?

I've tested it with a couple of benchmarks and seems to run fine, even going to the full memory/core speeds. I plan to give it a cleaning, re-paste and get new thermal pads for it before crunching on it. I've also seen a nVidia P106 going for like $30 locally and I'm wondering about picking it up too.

 

[mstenholm]

Guys, has anyone any experience running mining GPUs for WCG? Is there a downside to it, other than the GPU might be on it's last legs and not last a lot more? (depending on previous usage, maintenance, cooling, etc.)

I just got an Asus 470 Mining for pretty cheap. I've seen a couple of guides to turn it into a 570 but I don't really have any need to game on it so I was wondering if I could just use it for boinc as is. Is there anything in the mining bios that would prevent it from working on GPU WUs?

I've tested it with a couple of benchmarks and seems to run fine, even going to the full memory/core speeds. I plan to give it a cleaning, re-paste and get new thermal pads for it before crunching on it. I've also seen a nVidia P106 going for like $30 locally and I'm wondering about picking it up too.

According to TPU GPU database the normal version is OpenCL 2.1 and that’s enough as far as I remember. Activate AMD GPU in the WEB setup, restart the client and have a look at the top 10 lines or so of the log. If Bonic Manager thinks it will work the 2.1 will be there along with a predicted compute performance.

Remember there’s only one GPU project, OPN1 (OPNG), and it’s not active ATM, but it will be….soon

 

[phill]

I'd like us to try and do a bit of a giveaway with FAH and WCG + Rosetta, I'm curious though, what could we do for a give away that would be of use to people?? Anyone have any ideas?? I'd love to get some GPUs but I think for the moment that might be a bit of a stretch for me, but I'd love to do something.... Maybe a CPU, RAM and motherboard combo for WCG?? Anyone's thoughts??

 

[KLiKzg]

I'd like us to try and do a bit of a giveaway with FAH and WCG + Rosetta, I'm curious though, what could we do for a give away that would be of use to people?? Anyone have any ideas?? I'd love to get some GPUs but I think for the moment that might be a bit of a stretch for me, but I'd love to do something.... Maybe a CPU, RAM and motherboard combo for WCG?? Anyone's thoughts??

From my experiences, mostly on configurations SSD / HDD goes off. So that would be nice to add.

Here is a top list of needed items, that I was mostly changing:
1. SSD / HDD
2. CPU fans
3. PSU (those die more often then not)
4. CPU (mostly changing for better ones, top of the line ones for MBO)
5. RAM (mostly to upgrade or to go with fastest available for MBO)
6. MBO (most durable, but I have been burning my configurations mostly on Inter MBOs)
Hope this helps.

 

[phill]

I've a few bits and pieces I could get in the give away, a Ryzen 2600X and some basic but working (I believe) 16GB RAM kit. I'd love to do something more with a GPU or something, something from a 20 or even 30 series if we had some interest... I did wonder about possibly doing something like a raffle where you can throw in say $5 a ticket or something and the number of people entering get a chance to win the cash or a GPU or CPU or something with the winnings.. I'm not sure but just wondered what people think/thought??

 

[80-watt Hamster]

Anyone folding on Polaris getting terrible PPD atm? I brought my 470 out of retirement, which was (if memory serves) pulling 300K+ before. The LAR database has Polaris in the mid-200s on Windows, so before I spend too much time, is anyone else having issues? Or is this just what life is now? I suspect something on my end, since HWINFO only reports 25W on the GPU core.

 

[Quigly]

Ok - here's something i definitely didn't expect. I have a little old Dell Wyse thin client that has a AMD GX-415GA quad core 1.5ghz cpu. Exotic hardware but fun to tinker with. So this thing took about 8 hours to crunch a task in linux (vanilla install of ubuntu 23) but only takes 7 hours in windows 11 pro.

I definitely didn't see this coming! I would have sworn that linux would have been more efficient, especially since it was running headless without an X windows client.

I wonder what is causing the difference - it's not small!

 

[thebluebumblebee]

Ok - here's something i definitely didn't expect. I have a little old Dell Wyse thin client that has a AMD GX-415GA quad core 1.5ghz cpu. Exotic hardware but fun to tinker with. So this thing took about 8 hours to crunch a task in linux (vanilla install of ubuntu 23) but only takes 7 hours in windows 11 pro.

I definitely didn't see this coming! I would have sworn that linux would have been more efficient, especially since it was running headless without an X windows client.

I wonder what is causing the difference - it's not small!

It's always been this way, that projects process at different rates on different hardware and OSs. IIRC, MCM runs better on Windows, while SCC prefers Linux.

 

[Quigly]

I wonder what causes the difference?