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System Name | "Icy Resurrection" |
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Processor | 13th Gen Intel Core i9-13900KS Special Edition |
Motherboard | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 APEX ENCORE |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15S upgraded with 2x NF-F12 iPPC-3000 fans and Honeywell PTM7950 TIM |
Memory | 32 GB G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB F5-6800J3445G16GX2-TZ5RK @ 7600 MT/s 36-44-44-52-96 1.4V |
Video Card(s) | ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX™ 4080 16GB GDDR6X White OC Edition |
Storage | 500 GB WD Black SN750 SE NVMe SSD + 4 TB WD Red Plus WD40EFPX HDD |
Display(s) | 55-inch LG G3 OLED |
Case | Pichau Mancer CV500 White Edition |
Power Supply | EVGA 1300 G2 1.3kW 80+ Gold |
Mouse | Microsoft Classic Intellimouse |
Keyboard | Generic PS/2 |
Software | Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC 24H2 |
Benchmark Scores | I pulled a Qiqi~ |
Money no object it would definately be 7950X3D vs 13900K, maybe not KS given the shown £/gain ratio.
On a budget; 13700K vs. 7800X3D.
Reviews don't seem to show the whole picture unfortunately. W1zz gives performance numbers I feel I can trust, but there is sooo much more to the story (for me at least) which I'm not sure belongs in or can even be quantified in a HW review. Namely (from, maybe excessive, forum research or just news articles) in no particular order:
AMD+: power consumption, auto OC, gaming performance/£, slight AMD fanboy problem in that I dont like Nvidia sharp practices and have been bitten by past HW bugs, socket longevity, more PCIE lanes
AMD-: USB issues, BIOS issues - many AGESA updates sort of indicate this, needing to know what -30 PBO is, my perception MS W10/11 just not favouring them, limited DDR5 b/w, X3D core affinity
Intel+: single core performance, superficially seems fit and forget, MS seems(?) to favour Intel, better DDR5 b/w, P + E cores seem to be handled better by MS.
Intel-: power consumption - although this is controversial (apparently??), Spectre/meltdown type issues, socket EOL, less PCIE lanes.
As much as I want a 7800X3D I have this nagging doubt.
I'm still rocking a 6700K and am out of the modern loop, but the 6700K was very differnt from the preceeding C2D E8600, my next CPU will be the same.
Given the marketing (E) cores on a 13700K are 2x (ish) a 6700K, plus 8 P cores @ +1GHz and +20% (ish???) IPC of a 6700K, I think the upgrade experience for me might be similar to a NASA Apollo moon scientist going from the computing power of a Casio smartwatch to a modern workstation. It's my cash and I'm apparently still worrying about this. I think I need a life and spend more time with my kids! But at least this hobby is cheaper than my dream 993.
The latest Spectre type exploits primarily targeted the Zen architecture and patches to fix them were also issued. AGESA v2 1.2.0.8 for AM4 was specifically targeted to fix a high-severity CVE. Side-channel speculative execution exploits are pretty much here to stay, on both manufacturers' hardware.
Raptor Cove is *way* faster than just 20% over Skylake. It's closer to 20% over Alder Lake's Golden Cove as it is, simple benchmarks such as CPU-Z's rate the 13900KS single-thread 50% above the 5950X(!). It's around 1000 points. Here, quick n dirty one with all my stuff open (including Fallout 76 on the background):
Realistically of course, there is more to the picture to that, but this CPU managed to deeply impress me and it's not like the 5950X is even close to a slouch, quite the opposite, it's still as powerful a processor as it ever was. This chip is a monster, it's the only way to describe it.
Yes i am a where that they are more efficient. But it dosent change that amd and intel are pushing these cpu´s way out of there eficient range, compared to zen 3. The temperature and power consumption shows that. Just to put some numbers. 5950X tdp is 105 watt but more like 141 watt in real life however 7950X is 170 while its 230 watt in real life. Intel 13900K is more like around 300 watt and 13900KS is 355 watt is seems. Intel amd just let there cpus sipping more and more power and opperate out of where they most efficient. Just to get that last piece of performance that comes with high temperatures and power consumption. Even with PBO my 5950X max out at 200 watt. stil less than 7950X do stock.
Have not seen mine go above 300 W yet, including in stress test scenarios. But it's temperature limited at 100, below what W1zz has set his sample to.