What the hell is going on with game devs? (Gollum rant)

[LabRat 891]

I don't know about DLAA but I'm pretty sure all the rest of the AA approaches are just Blur Filters. It blurs out the jaggies so you don't notice them as much but it also blurs the textures to a degree.

FSAA ?

I thinked it was llike interlacing, a reconstruct work

I believe you two are referring to Morphological Anti-Aliasing (AKA MLAA/SMAA) and its related-descendants.

Morphological antialiasing - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Many 'methods' of Anti-Aliasing (such as MultiSample Anti-Aliasing: MSAA) have depreciated in use due to incompatibility w/ deferred rendering (and some post-processes). Which, have become common-use since 2007-2011->

So, @64K isn't entirely wrong in his very broad statement. Most AA methods available today are 'some kinda blur filter' or use proprietary technologies.
Hence, the menagerie of ATi/AMD- and nVidia-branded 'xx(x)AA' options, through the years. Some are descendants of MLAA, others are algorithmic or AI/MI post-processing (of a 'lesser degree' or more 'for-purpose' than FSR and DLSS.)

 

[DemonicRyzen666]

The issue isn't really RT, or any other detail, it's the same issue that's resulted in many of the recent AAA games being trash code pushed out the door.

These publishers are bought and become corporate mentality hellholes, where the objective is to finish projects as quickly and cheaply as possible so they can move on to the next profitable venture.

There is only one solution to this. Never preorder, and don't pay any amount of money, and yes, that includes discounted versions a year later, to support this attitude.

Reward games that are a labour of love, and don't support anything else - this is how you shape the industry.


There's lots

Spoiler: Full List

• A Plague Tale: Requiem
• Amid Evil
• Battlefield V
• Battlefield 2042
• Bright Memory
• Bright Memory: Infinite
• Call Of Duty: Black Ops Cold War
• Call of Duty: Modern Warfare (2019)
• Chernobylite
• Chorus
• Control
• Crysis Remastered
• Crysis Remastered Trilogy
• Cyberpunk 2077
• Dead Space (2023)
• Deathloop
• Deliver Us The Moon
• Dirt 5
• Doom Eternal
• Dying Light 2
• Elden Ring
• Everspace 2
• F1 2021
• F1 22
• Far Cry 6
• FIST: Forged In Shadow Torch
• Five Nights At Freddy's: Security Breach
• Forspoken
• Fortnite
• Forza Horizon 5
• Ghostrunner
• Ghostwire: Tokyo
• Gotham Knights
• Godfall
• Gripper
• Halo Infinite
• Hell Pie
• Hello Neighbor 2
• Hitman: World of Assassination
• Industria
• Icarus
• Jurassic World Evolution 2
• Justice
• JX Online 3
• Lego: Builder's Journey
• Loopmancer
• Martha is Dead
• Marvel’s Guardians of the Galaxy
• Marvel's Midnight Suns
• Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered
• Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales
• Mechwarrior V: Mercenaries
• Metro Exodus / Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition
• Minecraft (Bedrock Edition)
• Moonlight Blade
• Mortal Shell
• Myst
• Observer: System Redux
• Paradise Killer
• Portal with RTX
• Pumpkin Jack
• Quake II RTX
• Resident Evil 2
• Resident Evil 3
• Resident Evil 4
• Resident Evil 7
• Resident Evil Village
• Returnal
• Raji: An Ancient Epic
• Ring Of Elysium
• Sackboy: A Big Adventure
• Saints Row
• Severed Steel
• Shadow of the Tomb Raider
• Star Wars Jedi: Survivor
• Stay in the Light
• Steelrising
• Sword and Fairy 7
• The Ascent
• The Fabled Woods
• The Medium
• The Persistence
• The Riftbreaker
• The Witcher III: Wild Hunt - Game of the Year Edition
• Turbo Sloths
• Watch Dogs Legion
• Warhammer 40,000: Darktide
• Wolfenstein: Youngblood
• World Of Warcraft: Shadowlands
• Wrench
• Xuan-Yuan Sword VII
• Voidtrain

, Cyberpunk being the obvious one, you'll need a $1.5k GPU to turn everything on, but it's the best example. Other games involve RT at a much lower level, but examples such as Dying Light 2, even Elden ring pushed an RT update with a recent patch that makes buildings and dungeons look a lot better.

that list is short The actual list on wikipidia has 169 games with Raytracing. See here List of games that support ray tracing - PCGamingWiki PCGW - bugs, fixes, crashes, mods, guides and improvements for every PC game

Then the DX12 list is actually bigger with 322 games currently. See here >List of Direct3D 12 games - PCGamingWiki PCGW - bugs, fixes, crashes, mods, guides and improvements for every PC game

 

[Klemc]

Is there something noted in RTX papers in verry tiny about effect looking like an hallogen light added to full scene, i thin k inever liked the render.

 

[JustBenching]

How have I not tried this before... this is sick. We need a sticky of this somewhere.

Yeah, that's where DLSS shows it's real teeth

 

[R-T-B]

Only after you finished Goolum full gameplay and all achievements...

no u.

 

[Deleted member 57642]

Supposedly most of their budget was spent on the LOTR license and whatever was left was spent on the game development and advertisement.

 

[sepheronx]

It's not a coincidence all the crappy releases have been "AAA" games.

And yes, you need to send the publishers a memo this is not ok, by not buying.

I have had far more fun with non AAA games. I guess over inflated budgets make games AAA or not but anyway, I have been playing Darkest Dungeon far more than most Triple A titles for crying out loud.

 

[AusWolf]

I have had far more fun with non AAA games. I guess over inflated budgets make games AAA or not but anyway, I have been playing Darkest Dungeon far more than most Triple A titles for crying out loud.

Agreed. Stray is my '22 game of the year by far.

 

[forman313]

Oh dear... looks like its running on a Sega.

Its probably just an old Sega game with new textures. Sega emulator explains the performance.


Not even Gandalf would be able to fix this game. "One fail to rule them all"

 

[64K]

Oh dear... looks like its running on a Sega.

Its probably just an old Sega game with new textures. Sega emulator explains the performance.


Not even Gandalf would be able to fix this game. "One fail to rule them all"

Really the game is a fail-turd. Yet another game pushed out by a Publisher before it was ready who counted on The Lord of the Rings fans to make it a success anyway.

 

[Totally]

The game looks like garbage as well both visually and from a gameplay standpoint.


People give TLOU, Hogwarts, Jedi survivor crap for not running the best but all three look miles better than this.

To me it seemed the opposite, yeah people were giving those games crap but they were drowned out by neverending praise to the point where any negative criticism drew condemnation in certain spheres. Hogwarts, was on side shooting themselves in the foot, forcing a mediocre game that would have otherwise come and gone unnoticed into the spotlight.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

It's not too often that a game comes out that fails on every single level. Game design, graphics, story, playability, the game devs dropping the ball HARD, the publisher dropping the ball HARD, ditto for marketing. Everybody involved with this project must have had some GOOD stuff, and I want some.

To me it seemed the opposite, yeah people were giving those games crap but they were drowned out by neverending praise to the point where any negative criticism drew condemnation in certain spheres. Hogwarts, was on side shooting themselves in the foot, forcing a mediocre game that would have otherwise come and gone unnoticed into the spotlight.

Those games all had soem major poasitive attribute that could outweigh the negative performance. Hogwarts was a genuinely fun romp throught he world of magic, not weighed down by the harry/voldemort story that we've already heard before. Jedi Survivor has and engaging story and characters, and feels like the developers actually appreciate the universe they were given, a major breath of fresh air in a world of stale characters and fan hatred. And TLOU has twitter wrapped around its finger I guess.

This game has nothing. The LOTR fanbase is in the middle of their Last Jedi moment where they are coming to terms with the IP owners hating the fans, the source material, and themselves. The game itself is not vile. It's not notable at all. Its a snoozefest that cant decide what it wants to be, its something nobody wanted, and it is barely playable. A truly fascinating artifact of gaming, up there with Big Rigs.

 

[Klemc]

It's not too often that a game comes out that fails on every single level. Game design, graphics, story, playability...

Gollum Vs. System Shock

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

Gollum Vs. System Shock

Wait, did system shock screw up too? I havent been following the re release.....

 

[Klemc]

Wait, did system shock screw up too? I havent been following the re release.....

No, it's all perfect infact

 

[Laurijan]

We need a Jason Schreier article that clears why so much broken games have come out lately. Would definitely be an interesting read

 

[Totally]

We need a Jason Schreier article that clears why so much broken games have come out lately. Would definitely be an interesting read

Gaming went mainstream and Investors don't like to risk more than necessary. So back in the earlier days to get a gamer to open their wallet, a certain standard had to be met. Now the audience base is far more reaching, even the barest of effort brings significant amounts of money, and putting effort to please the relative few is now a money losing proposition in their eyes.

 

[dgianstefani]

Well, it's a race to the bottom don't ya know

 

[64K]

Well, it's a race to the bottom don't ya know
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And the scary part is that we aren't even halfway through this year yet. What new turd-games await us?

 

[sepheronx]

And the scary part is that we aren't even halfway through this year yet. What new turd-games await us?

Doesnt Starfield come out this year?

 

[Vayra86]

Doesnt Starfield come out this year?

Yep, we all know that's going to take the cake... Creation Engine v857105.91210 overloaded with crippling graphics effects we already had in DX9.

At least we won't have sub 30 FPS in the city center due to draw call issues, because there are no cities!
And it might actually run on 8GB!

Well, it's a race to the bottom don't ya know
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He's also stealing 'Worst pic quality of 2023' it seems, what made this, chatgpt?

 

[Chomiq]

The best part about Gollum:

The Lord of the Rings: Gollum Makes Its Way Onto Sales Chart

Despite a very rough launch, The Lord of the Rings: Gollum manages to become one of the top-selling games of its release week.

gamerant.com

People are dumb.

 

[R-T-B]

The best part about Gollum:

The Lord of the Rings: Gollum Makes Its Way Onto Sales Chart

Despite a very rough launch, The Lord of the Rings: Gollum manages to become one of the top-selling games of its release week.

gamerant.com

People are dumb.

We have very different definitions of "best."

 

[Laurijan]

Well, it's a race to the bottom don't ya know
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Me wantz it, me needz it (worst game title)

 

[AusWolf]

I guess game basing based on graphics and technical issues is quite popular these days, but what about actual gameplay? Is it any good?