Windows 11 General Discussion

Klemc · Jul 12, 2023

I did it, and for Win 10 & 11, that rebooted twice after KB install, instead habitual one !!

//

DisplaySwitch EXE fixed (totally), also the Win10 version is not responsive anymore ( i used it from manother folder)

P4-630 · Jul 13, 2023

This update addresses an issue that might affect your computer when you are playing a game. Timeout Detection and Recovery (TDR) errors might occur.
This update addresses an issue that affects certain apps. In some instances, video flickering occurs.
This update addresses an issue that affects File Explorer (explorer.exe). It stops working

July 11, 2023—KB5028185 (OS Build 22621.1992) - Microsoft Support

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mechtech · Jul 14, 2023

Any word on when a W11 LTSC will be out?

eidairaman1 · Jul 15, 2023

mechtech said:
Any word on when a W11 LTSC will be out?

Mike!

How to Download Windows 11 LTSC & What to Use It for

If you've been wondering if there is a Windows 11 LTSC version to download, you've come to the right place as we will talk about its release.

windowsreport.com

erpguy53 · Jul 15, 2023

eidairaman1 said:
Mike!

How to Download Windows 11 LTSC & What to Use It for

If you've been wondering if there is a Windows 11 LTSC version to download, you've come to the right place as we will talk about its release.

windowsreport.com

NO! NO! NO! :mad:

windowsreport.com Win11 LTSC article is wrong!, eidairaman1

here's the RIGHT info about the upcoming Win11 LTSC release, direct from the horse's mouth (from MS):

Windows client roadmap update: July 2023

Get the latest lifecycle updates for Windows 11, version 23H2 and Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021.

techcommunity.microsoft.com

In our last Windows client roadmap update blog, we announced that Windows 10, version 22H2 would be the final version of Windows 10. It will reach end of support on October 14, 2025 for all editions of that version. We also announced that there would be a Windows 11-based Long- Term Servicing Channel (LTSC) release in the second half of 2024.

Windows client roadmap update: April 2023

Get the latest on Windows 10 and Long-Term Servicing Channel (LTSC) releases.

techcommunity.microsoft.com

Windows 11 LTSC

It's important for organizations to have adequate time to plan for adopting Windows 11. Today we're announcing that the next Windows LTSC releases will be available in the second half of 2024

eidairaman1 · Jul 15, 2023

erpguy53 said:
NO! NO! NO!
windowsreport Win11 LTSC article is wrong!, eidairaman1

here's the RIGHT info about the upcoming Win11 LTSC release, direct from the horse's mouth (from MS):

Windows client roadmap update: July 2023

Get the latest lifecycle updates for Windows 11, version 23H2 and Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021.

techcommunity.microsoft.com

Its an old article, till then use enterprise/pro with Windows update turned off and use powershell to install only necessary updates.

And what's wrong, your panties in a bunch?

R-T-B · Jul 15, 2023

eidairaman1 said:
And what's wrong, your panties in a bunch?

Classy.

P4-630 · Jul 15, 2023

Windows 11 update is reportedly slowing down PCs and breaking internet connections

KB5028185, the 'Moment 3' update, is proving seriously problematic for some users

www.techradar.com

I only had some copy issues sofar...

lexluthermiester · Jul 16, 2023

Klemc said:
So, i'm on 2023-2 KB5022845 update now, should i apply the 2023-7 KB5028185 ?

Windows 11 et les MAJs KB5028182 et KB5028185, quoi de neuf ? - GinjFo

Le Patch Tuesday de juillet 2023 donne naissance à deux nouvelles mises à jour cumulatives Windows 11, KB5028182 et KB5028166.

www.ginjfo.com

In French !

No! Wait a few months.

erpguy53 said:
NO! NO! NO!

Oi! Chill! There is no need for that kind of aggression with other users! Getting pissy with microsoft for something stupid they've done is ok and even encouraged in this thread. But not with other users of the forums. Please keep things civilized and cool going forward.

eidairaman1 said:
Its an old article, till then use enterprise/pro with Windows update turned off and use powershell to install only necessary updates.

True, and since that article was posted, microsoft has updated their roadmap for Win11 LTSC. It seems that late 2024 is the timeline.

R-T-B said:
Classy.

To be fair, he could have been more unpleasant. I see that as a nice way of being somewhat snarky.

theFOoL · Jul 17, 2023

OK so... I just had a thought. I now looked up but both WiN10/11 have the same DirectX Version. Question is how long until developers move on from 12 or just don't support 10/11 no more

Klemc · Jul 17, 2023

DX12 is old, Ultimate is more recent, decs apparently have hard time with DX12, uncompetant or else.

DX13 could be needed, DX11 is well on devs side and render.

R-T-B · Jul 17, 2023

Klemc said:
uncompetant or else.

Nah. Low level languages just are tough. You could say incompetent but it's more there are very few at that level. DX12/Vulkan is low level, DX11/OpenGL high level.

lexluthermiester · Jul 19, 2023

theFOoL said:
Question is how long until developers move on from 12 or just don't support 10/11 no more

It'll be a long time. DX10 is still a very useful API and it is very well understood. Same with DX11. Hell, up until recently DX9c was still actively being developed for. It's gonna be a while.

Klemc said:
DX12 is old

No, DX9c is old. DX10 is still considered usable, DX11 is very much still mainstream and DX12 is still modern.

R-T-B said:
DX12/Vulkan is low level, DX11/OpenGL high level.

This.

And by "Low-Level" RTB means the API addresses and accesses the rendering functionality of the hardware directly. By "High-Level" he means that the API addresses and accesses rendering functionality through an OS based hardware interpreter.

EDIT: spelling correction..

Count von Schwalbe · Jul 19, 2023

lexluthermiester said:
I'll be a long time. DX10 is still a very useful API and it is very well understood. Same with DX11. Hell, up until recently DX9c was still actively being developed for. It's gonna be a while.

Ya know, I hardly ever see DX10 games. It always seems to be DX9 or DX11.

Up until recently I thought they didn't have a DX10. Stranger things have happened.

Devon68 · Jul 19, 2023

So yesterday I updated to 22H2 on windows 10. Today it's giving me an option to install windows 11 22H2. Go for it or stay on Win 10 for now?

theFOoL · Jul 19, 2023

Eh I'd stay bc both have DirectX 12

Shrek · Jul 19, 2023

I'd say go for it and not worry about end of support in 2 years.

Klemc · Jul 19, 2023

Devon68 said:
So yesterday I updated to 22H2 on windows 10. Today it's giving me an option to install windows 11 22H2. Go for it or stay on Win 10 for now?

TBF, i use W11 for my gaming PC, it's : ON / lauch game, play / OFF.

But i keep W10 for the PC i use a lot explorer (web...), bc that's not that good on W11... interface, but if your tasks can take advantage on W11, go.

lexluthermiester · Jul 20, 2023

Devon68 said:
Go for it or stay on Win 10 for now?

That depends. Have you given 11 a solid run yet(on a spare drive or system)? Personal preference is a thing. Try it first before making the switch. I personally like 11 a lot and will never go back to 10 for any reason. Yet some users have expressed they liked 10 better.

Count von Schwalbe said:
Ya know, I hardly ever see DX10 games. It always seems to be DX9 or DX11.

Parts of DX10 are still used in DX9c games as the libraries were dynamically interchangeable. So some DX9c games had elements of DX10 and DX11 worked the same way.

Space Lynx · Jul 25, 2023

Hi everyone, I got a new work laptop recently, a 13th gen Intel touchscreen (was a big upgrade over my Intel 8th gen touchscreen). Both have a keyboard, touchpad, and touchscreen. Everything works great on both, however, on the 8th gen Intel Windows 11 - I was able to to touchscreen in game, like Magic the Gathering Arena to play cards and stuff, but on this new laptop also Windows 11, I am only able to use touchscreen when not in game, such as web browsing, Win 11 settings menus, etc.

Is there a setting in Windows 11 to help me fix this? I looked a lot, but can not find anything.

P4-630 · Jul 25, 2023

Since the last windows 11 updates , I have noticed startup programs are loading somewhat faster once logged on...
(haven't changed any startup things)

Space Lynx · Jul 25, 2023

EDIT: nevermind on this issue with the touchscreen, I figured it out, its a specific issue that only effects magic the gathering arena. it works just fine in other games. RIP me for only ever playing magic arena haha

lexluthermiester · Jul 26, 2023

Space Lynx said:
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EDIT: nevermind on this issue with the touchscreen, I figured it out, its a specific issue that only effects magic the gathering arena. it works just fine in other games. RIP me for only ever playing magic arena haha

Man, that sucks. I feel for you. Can you still use the old system? Will your boss let you buy it?

Space Lynx · Jul 26, 2023

lexluthermiester said:
Man, that sucks. I feel for you. Can you still use the old system? Will your boss let you buy it?

magic arena had an update that disabled touchscreen on non-phone devices, i was just so used to playing on my old 8th gen intel work laptop with touchscreen i did not realize this until now.

it's a problem many are complaining about, my new laptop touchscreen works fine in any other game i try. no worries. very happy.

lexluthermiester · Jul 26, 2023

Space Lynx said:
magic arena had an update that disabled touchscreen on non-phone devices

So contact support and tell them you want that option re-enabled!

Space Lynx said:
it's a problem many are complaining about

Join in! They can't know they've removed something people care about if no one says anything.

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