AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT

[tfdsaf]

This is the best value GPU this generation! There is no GPU from Nvidia's side which comes even close in terms of value, best GPU this generation by far! That said in actual reality this is a mid tier class product and should cost no more than $450, I think the price is actually quite good either way, but realistically it should have been $450.

But to a certain level I get AMD and their pricing, their closes competitor price is $600 and they have a 5% faster product on average and $100 cheaper as well, so it would be insane for them to price this at $450 and have it compete with the 4060ti in terms of pricing but is destroying the 4070 in performance! It would be too cheap, and people would question if there is something wrong with the product, why is it priced so cheap compared to the competition, surely there must be something wrong with it, it might be defective, have short lifespan, etc....

With all of this said its Nvidia that is the actual pure evil here, they are pure evil, and they priced their RTX 4070 $600, which is essentially a GTX 1070 which used to cost $380.

Unless Nvidia lowers prices, we won't see any actual big pricing movement even from AMD! I can see the RX 770XT maybe dropping $30 to $40 over time and settling at $420 or $410, but without the RTX 4060ti dropping in price and without the RTX 4070 dropping in price I don't see any significant price drops on the horizon!

I still think this is a much better purchase over the 6800XT, depending on which review you look at its anywhere from 5% to 15% faster than the 6800XT, has better ray tracing, has AV1 support and is the newer architecture which means all optimizations in games going forward are going to be for this architecture!

 

[usiname]

Its outdated in the sense where before overclocking gave you WAY MORE than 10% performance. Also, while its good you got 10% out of the games you play, there's a good chance its not 100% stable and there is some game out there (or some game in the future) that will crash it.

I enjoy undervolting more than overclocking nowadays, but it comes with the same caveat its not 100% stable with all games. I guess I'm at a point in my life where I value stability over an extra 10% fps.

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more than 10% when? ~15% was always the best possible overclocking. Now if you mean something before 2000 then probably yes

 

[TheDeeGee]

Surprisingly good overclocking headroom for both 7700xt and 7800xt. Not like Nvidia, where you get 6-7% at best

Ever heard of silicon lottery?

I think given the RT performance in games that have decent rt Witcher 3 NG/CP2077 and DLSS I'd still just get a 4070. For those who don't care about either no current gen card comes close.

And you also get DLSS 3.5 which looks better than native in certain games (Starfield).

 

[Pumper]

That's some terrible temps and noise, especially compared to TUF at the same price. How hard is it to make a reasonable cooler?

 

[R0H1T]

And you also get DLSS 3.5 which looks better than native in certain games (Starfield).

And it's almost certain to play out the way Gsync vs Freesync did, that one also had dedicated Nvidia hardware. Proprietary doesn't work much in the consumer space because it's more expensive & AMD probably has another half a dozen or so handheld consoles launching just this year! Alongside probably some China exclusive full sized consoles as well, like this one ~

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[Colddecked]

10% is pretty good, even historically speaking, there never was "way more" than that.

Undervolting or overclocking is basically the same thing with AMD cards, in case you didn't know.

Tuning Maxwell, Pascal, Polaris, RDNA 1 all gave me higher than 10% from stock.

Anyways, back to the topic I hope these cards are all strong overclockers no reason to root against it.

 

[Deleted member 185088]

While not great with little to no improvement over RDNA2, it humiliates the pathetic RTX4050.

 

[DemonicRyzen666]

And you also get DLSS 3.5 which looks better than native in certain games (Starfield).

how can you factually prove that its better than Native?
No one has ever had base line picture quality comparison in any review for proof of this so called " better than native"
It's all opinion based conclusions.

 

[sethmatrix7]

Wow. $100 less than a 4070 for better performance.

 

[CGLBESE]

This really reminds me of the HD58XX to HD68XX generational change...

 

[Ayhamb99]

I don't really get the naming scheme of this GPU generation for AMD. Like why not call this a 7800 without the XT since its specs would align with the last generation 6800? Like naming it a 7800 XT and it having sort of equal performance to the 6800 XT would indicate little to no generational improvement between the 2 cards since the naming scheme would indicate that the 7800 XT is the successor. All this does is that it confuses the average consumer.

Otherwise for $500 this is a pretty okay looking card, maybe if i have the budget later this year or next year i can finally retire my 2060 and go with this.

 

[R0H1T]

Like why not call this a 7800 without the XT since its specs would align with the last generation 6800?

Maybe they don't want "uninformed" users buying a 7800 & hoping to fit it in the CPU socket? I hear apparently enough people do that with Intel/AMD CPU's

 

[sethmatrix7]

I don't really get the naming scheme of this GPU generation for AMD. Like why not call this a 7800 without the XT since its specs would align with the last generation 6800? Like naming it a 7800 XT and it having sort of equal performance to the 6800 XT would indicate little to no generational improvement between the 2 cards since the naming scheme would indicate that the 7800 XT is the successor. All this does is that it confuses the average consumer.

Otherwise for $500 this is a pretty okay looking card, maybe if i have the budget later this year or next year i can finally retire my 2060 and go with this.

The average consumer is already an idiot so I’m not sure how much of a difference a non-sensical naming scheme will actually make.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I don't really get the naming scheme of this GPU generation for AMD. Like why not call this a 7800 without the XT since its specs would align with the last generation 6800? Like naming it a 7800 XT and it having sort of equal performance to the 6800 XT would indicate little to no generational improvement between the 2 cards since the naming scheme would indicate that the 7800 XT is the successor. All this does is that it confuses the average consumer.

Otherwise for $500 this is a pretty okay looking card, maybe if i have the budget later this year or next year i can finally retire my 2060 and go with this.

people get way too hung up over naming..... Not hard to just look at the price compare it to others in the general price range and decide if it is worth buying.... For the uninformed buyer ignorance is bliss.


The 80 class card was the 580/480 not that long ago from AMD and before that we had the 280/380 and the 7870/7850...... The 80 name was budget tier from amd for over half a decade now it is midrange... It was really only semi high end for 1 generation over the last decade.

 

[john_]

In case anyone from AMD is reading this page.

This is what a customer sees in Greece, from one of the two retailers who participate in Starfield bundle.

Someone will have to give me a dozen hallucinatory drugs to make me pay those prices.
I expect other retailers to sell those cards at prices about 100 euros less, but WITHOUT Starfield.

 

[apoklyps3]

what's the point of selling a product that is identical (or even slower) with the product it replaces? for more money...
seems like the clowns at AMD working overtime again...
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You are comparing an overclocked card to a reference card and others are clowns?

 

[crosscountry77]

I have mixed feelings about this card.
Let's start with naming ... Why is called 7800 XT instead of 7700 XT? (and the current 7700 XT just being named 7700). This card is Navi 32, the replacement for the Navi 22 (6700XT/6750XT).
I am surprised it managed to match the performance of the Navi 21 (6800 XT) but calling it 7800 XT seems odd.
It is a shame AMD has no plan to release a true replacement for the 6800 XT. In theory they could release a gaming card with specs similar to the PRO W7800.
There is no gain in performance per dollar to talk about and performance per watts is not as good as expected, which makes this card mostly irrelevant, still better than any offering from nVidia, but not a game changer.

 

[theouto]

Well, my 6800XT purchase from a few months ago didn't age at all, would've gotten pretty much the same deal with what I bought or the 7800XT. Sad that this is about the best price to performance this generation can offer

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Well, my 6800XT purchase from a few months ago didn't age at all, would've gotten pretty much the same deal with what I bought or the 7800XT. Sad that this is about the best price to performance this generation can offer

You can thank AMD for being overly optimistic on it's RDNA2 orders if this was a normal generational transition this card would look a lot better.

 

[Why_Me]

In case anyone from AMD is reading this page.

This is what a customer sees in Greece, from one of the two retailers who participate in Starfield bundle.

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Someone will have to give me a dozen hallucinatory drugs to make me pay those prices.
I expect other retailers to sell those cards at prices about 100 euros less, but WITHOUT Starfield.

Good Greeks use this site to shop.

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[john_]

I have mixed feelings about this card.
Let's start with naming ... Why is called 7800 XT instead of 7700 XT? (and the current 7700 XT just being named 7700). This card is Navi 32, the replacement for the Navi 22 (6700XT/6750XT).
I am surprised it managed to match the performance of the Navi 21 (6800 XT) but calling it 7800 XT seems odd.
It is a shame AMD has no plan to release a true replacement for the 6800 XT. In theory they could release a gaming card with specs similar to the PRO W7800.
There is no gain in performance per dollar to talk about and performance per watts is not as good as expected, which makes this card mostly irrelevant, still better than any offering from nVidia, but not a game changer.

They should have done what they did with RX 7600, where they removed the XT from the end of the name and could advertise a nice performance increase over RX 6600, while selling at RX 6650XT price that was matching the performance of RX 7600. Naming the RX 7800XT as RX 7800, they could advertise a nice performance increase over RX 6800, while still putting the same price tag of $499. For some reason they chose to call it RX 7800XT. Maybe they thought that the lack of XT would make buyers wait for an XT version or something, don;t know. Maybe they thought that the XT will make the card somehow justify better the price. But I think they should had market this card as plain RX 7800.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

They should have done what they did with RX 7600, where they removed the XT from the end of the name and could advertise a nice performance increase over RX 6600, while selling at RX 6650XT price that was matching the performance of RX 7600. Naming the RX 7800XT as RX 7800, they could advertise a nice performance increase over RX 6800, while still putting the same price tag of $499. For some reason they chose to call it RX 7800XT. Maybe they thought that the lack of XT would make buyers wait for an XT version or something, don;t know. Maybe they thought that the XT will make the card somehow justify better the price. But I think they should had market this card as plain RX 7800.

Maybe it's a preemptive move for next generation word on the street is they will only have 7700XT and 7800XT replacements.

 

[john_]

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That is a searching tool to find lowest prices. As I said, shops there will probably come up with prices of 100 euros less, but WITHOUT Starfield and probably a waiting time that goes from 4-10 days, up to a month from the order day.
Another site like Skroutz is BestPrice.gr

Maybe it's a preemptive move for next generation word on the street is they will only have 7700XT and 7800XT replacements.

The performance difference between 7700XT and 7800XT is so narrow, that this is another reason why that XT in the 7800's case doesn't make much sense.
Now I don't think that AMD can see further than 2-3 weeks in marketing, to believe that it is a move based on what the next generation will bring. If we where talking about Nvidia, yes, but AMD it's way too short sighted in marketing to see that far.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

The performance difference between 7700XT and 7800XT is so narrow, that this is another reason why that XT in the 7800's case doesn't make much sense.
Now I don't think that AMD can see further than 2-3 weeks in marketing, to believe that it is a move based on what the next generation will bring. If we where talking about Nvidia, yes, but AMD it's way too short sighted in marketing to see that far.

This has everything to do with the 4060ti being trash if the 4060ti performed more like a 4070 these cards would be 100 cheaper but that isn't reality.

Naming is mostly irrelevant not sure why people are so hung up over it....

 

[pavle]

The RX 7800 XT has higher power consumption than expected, but good thing now is RTX 4070 will have to come down in price and that will mean it will be the best all around card, despite its lack of execution units and vRAM.