The TPU UK Clubhouse

[Marcus L]

Not allowed to talk about it here mate.

My bad, just thought UK clubhouse, major UK event?

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Somebody just tried to set fire to the back of my house. Had to get the fire brigade involved.

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

Somebody just tried to set fire to the back of my house. Had to get the fire brigade involved.

I beg your pardon?

 

[FreedomEclipse]

I beg your pardon?

Some arsonist set fire to the fence at the back of my house. Had to dial 9 9 9

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

Is this....common?

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Is this....common?

No. But we think its the same guy who set fire to the rubbish In someone elses front yard in the middle of the night a few weeks ago

 

[kurosagi01]

Need to invest in some CCTV surveillance around your house dude, at least its caught on camera even if it couldn't catch the face of the muppet.
There is a possibility it could have or the muppet would think twice.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

At first I thought it was my neighbour burning their pile of garden waste. They have two big piles of wood logs, branches and other trimmings from bushes they wanted to get rid of and did tell us they would be burning it eventually if they couldnt find someone to take the wood logs off them.

what made me curious was:

1. it didnt smell like a wood fire.

2. flames were way too high. At least 10-20 feet tall. I could see the flames through the privacy glass of my bathroom.

3. flames were way too close to our shed.

I stuck my head out the window expecting to see my neighbour in the garden and give them a telling off, but they weren't there and the fence and neighbouring tree was completely on fire and burning so hard I could see all the embers on the OTHER SIDE of the fence through the gaps in it as it was burning.


It was also 1 or 1.30am when i smelt something burning. I didnt know how long it was burning for before i reported it but fire moves pretty fast. While having a bonfire at 1am is a little suspicious to me. It is illegal to burn garden waste because it adds to the pollution in the atmosphere. So I thought the neighbour was trying to dodge the the law by burning it at night.

- illegal to burn garden waste because pollution. It can also annoy the neighbours (as the government/local council says) - Although its OK if the neighbours know about it and its ONLY a small pile. Big piles need to be dumped in the street taken to your local refuse/recycling centre.


Anyway, I live 10mins away from a fire station and they got out here pretty quick and spent 20mins putting out the fire.

Had I been asleep around that time. the fire would have most definitely taken our shed with it.

 

[kurosagi01]

At first I thought it was my neighbour burning their pile of garden waste. They have two big piles of wood logs, branches and other trimmings from bushes they wanted to get rid of and did tell us they would be burning it eventually if they couldnt find someone to take the wood logs off them.

what made me curious was:

1. it didnt smell like a wood fire.

2. flames were way too high. At least 10-20 feet tall. I could see the flames through the privacy glass of my bathroom.

3. flames were way too close to our shed.

I stuck my head out the window expecting to see my neighbour in the garden and give them a telling off, but they weren't there and the fence and neighbouring tree was completely on fire and burning so hard I could see all the embers on the OTHER SIDE of the fence through the gaps in it as it was burning.


It was also 1 or 1.30am when i smelt something burning. I didnt know how long it was burning for before i reported it but fire moves pretty fast. While having a bonfire at 1am is a little suspicious to me. It is illegal to burn garden waste because it adds to the pollution in the atmosphere. So I thought the neighbour was trying to dodge the the law by burning it at night.

- illegal to burn garden waste because pollution. It can also annoy the neighbours (as the government/local council says) - Although its OK if the neighbours know about it and its ONLY a small pile. Big piles need to be dumped in the street taken to your local refuse/recycling centre.


Anyway, I live 10mins away from a fire station and they got out here pretty quick and spent 20mins putting out the fire.

Had I been asleep around that time. the fire would have most definitely taken our shed with it.

Yeah they shouldn't be burning any waste in general to be fair.

 

[Marcus L]

Yeah they shouldn't be burning any waste in general to be fair.

Yup better to recycle have it sent to the 3rd world to be burnt #netzero

 

[AMF]

Somebody just tried to set fire to the back of my house. Had to get the fire brigade involved.

Disgruntled immigrant?

 

[the54thvoid]

Disgruntled immigrant?

More likely local bum. We have our own home-grown idiots here.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

More likely local bum. We have our own home-grown idiots here.

I mean one the things that was set fire to was an old mattress that a local hobo did used to sleep on but he's been long gone. On the other side of the fence where the fire was started belongs to BT. They have a massive gate that they normally keep closed but even if you close it theres still a way for someone to walk into the car park without having to climb the gate and its how the hobo used to get in there before.

The gate wasnt closed last night and while that does occasionally happen. Nobody has ever walked in and started setting fire to stuff.

Im seeing a fair few BT vans parked in front of the fence that was burning last night. I dont think the engineers there even care but BT will have to replace the fence at some point.

My mum was talking to one of the engineers there and apparently they might be closing this exchange soon or relocating it elsewhere but I dont know if this is true. This exchange has existed here since well before I was even born and it would be strange for them to suddenly uproot themselves and go elsewhere or shut down with so much infrastructure already being routed through to this building.

 

[kurosagi01]

Yup better to recycle have it sent to the 3rd world to be burnt #netzero

Imagine recycling isn't actually recycling and us humans don't actually give a crap about the planet.
Look at our ocean with micro plastics and as you say..sent to 3rd world to be piled up or burnt.
How dare we not build a solar powered or eco powered station to turn our recycling goods back to materials that can be re-used.

Disgruntled immigrant?

More likely local bum. We have our own home-grown idiots here.

We do indeed have our own home-grown idiots.

 

[AusWolf]

Imagine recycling isn't actually recycling and us humans don't actually give a crap about the planet.
Look at our ocean with micro plastics and as you say..sent to 3rd world to be piled up or burnt.
How dare we not build a solar powered or eco powered station to turn our recycling goods back to materials that can be re-used.

I'm currently in Hungary on a holiday. It's big news here that all plastic bottles and aluminium cans became exchangeable at your supermarket's recycling centre for prices like 10p per bottle and such. Bottles also come with permanently attached caps so that you can't lose them and throw them away on the street.

What do we have in the UK? Green and blue bins that no one knows how to use properly and sometimes even get dumped on the same landfill as your black one? It's a joke.

 

[kurosagi01]

I'm currently in Hungary on a holiday. It's big news here that all plastic bottles and aluminium cans became exchangeable at your supermarket's recycling centre for prices like 10p per bottle and such. Bottles also come with permanently attached caps so that you can't lose them and throw them away on the street.

What do we have in the UK? Green and blue bins that no one knows how to use properly and sometimes even get dumped on the same landfill as your black one? It's a joke.

Ironically some manufacturers have started selling bottles with caps attached now.
But yeah no supermarkets or any places have incentives to offer us back for recycling.

Again people just don't a crap about what to do with waste, they see a bin they just chuck it in either of them.
Noone in my area apart from 2 others use the food caddy bin to dispose food waste.

I would like to think I am trying to do my part in throwing things away in the correct bins but really, maybe the just stop oil have the right thing about trying to push the higher ups/large organisations to do more but the way they are going about it isn't benefiting anyone.
Ultimately these big organisations + government bodies have the funds and resources to do something better but they choose to not to or they are doing it in a slow manner.

 

[the54thvoid]

I'm currently in Hungary on a holiday. It's big news here that all plastic bottles and aluminium cans became exchangeable at your supermarket's recycling centre for prices like 10p per bottle and such. Bottles also come with permanently attached caps so that you can't lose them and throw them away on the street.

What do we have in the UK? Green and blue bins that no one knows how to use properly and sometimes even get dumped on the same landfill as your black one? It's a joke.

I've noticed more and more juice cartons with screw top lids that don't come off. Possibly an EU mandate. As far as recycling goes, we recycle all that we can in our house. Green bin (general waste), Blue bin (carboard/plastic), Brown bin* (garden & food waste), Purple (glass bottles). In the UK, each location decides its own refuse/recycle scheme.

As @kurosagi01 says, it's left up to us at the moment to do our thing. Do what you can in the place you live. As far as bottle returns - we used to have them, maybe before your time, but they vanished as larger and larger supermarkets appeared. Guess what - big business makes the calls unless governments intervene. Choose your poison - (without getting political) - interventionism or free-market.

*Council recently added an annual charge (£50) for garden waste to be collected.

 

[FoulOnWhite]

Was good for kids when you could get 5 or 10p for returned bottles.

And i also noticed, the bottles of ribena my partner likes have the same captive screw on caps

 

[AusWolf]

Ironically some manufacturers have started selling bottles with caps attached now.
But yeah no supermarkets or any places have incentives to offer us back for recycling.

Again people just don't a crap about what to do with waste, they see a bin they just chuck it in either of them.
Noone in my area apart from 2 others use the food caddy bin to dispose food waste.

That's because they're not incentivised to do so. If I get 10p per bottle at my recycling centre, of course I'll use it. If I only get a healthy dose of apathy from the government, then why should I care? I'm not saying that recycling is bad, but I'm pretty sure this is how the masses think.

As @kurosagi01 says, it's left up to us at the moment to do our thing.

I know, but that's wrong. Why am I expected to care if people with way more power don't?

It reminds me of the letter a lorry driver friend of mine got from the government last year. It said "please consider settling in your profession". Yeah, but where's the pay? Where's the benefits? Why would anyone even think of becoming a lorry driver, or any other highly skilled worker if it only comes with a ton of stress and no benefit whatsoever? Just to "do our part?" Fuck that.

Edit: I think this is the main problem of the UK right now. Nothing is incentivised, everybody is expected to act purely on stupid slogans, there are no benefits of wanting more or trying to do the right thing. Every entry-level job is paid the same, you only get a pat on your back for your efforts. A nurse gets less money than me, working night shifts in a warehouse. It's ridiculous. Recently, I've become quite passionate about cooking, and part of me wants to become a chef, but for a start, I'd work more and earn less than now. No one is encouraged to do anything, there's no professionalism anywhere, because whatever you do, you're just a trained worker, nothing more. It makes everything feel cheap, as no service or product has any value. Doing the right thing needs to be incentivised, wanting a better life needs to be incentivised, and people who put the extra effort in educating themselves and doing more should be rewarded. Stupid slogans must disappear, taking people as idiots must also disappear.

Choose your poison - (without getting political) - interventionism or free-market.

I think the answer is, as always, a good balance of both. If either (the government or corporations) get too much power, things spin out of control and the regular person gets screwed over. There's no such thing as free market, only corporate power.

 

[the54thvoid]

Was good for kids when you could get 5 or 10p for returned bottles.

And i also noticed, the bottles of ribena my partner likes have the same captive screw on caps

Makes me hark back to the old days when ring pulls on cans could be split apart, and you'd 'ping' the circle section with the teardrop shaped part. That was the 70's & 80's. They changed the design some time in the 90's, I think, to stop such littering fun. Probaby for the best, otherwise, we'd all be knee deep in rusting ring pulls.

 

[FoulOnWhite]

Makes me hark back to the old days when ring pulls on cans could be split apart, and you'd 'ping' the circle section with the teardrop shaped part. That was the 70's & 80's. They changed the design some time in the 90's, I think, to stop such littering fun. Probaby for the best, otherwise, we'd all be knee deep in rusting ring pulls.

I remember doing that.

 

[Tatty_Two]

I remember pre decimalisation days when the main fizzy pop brand was Corona and I used to get a tanner back for handing back an empty lol.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

*Council recently added an annual charge (£50) for garden waste to be collected

Funny how theyve also been closing down local refuse/recycling centers where you can roll up in your car and dump whatever old tat that you don't want into one of their skips.

This has happened in my area and all it's done is increase illegal fly tipping.

There are people patrolling around in vans that will pick up things like broken microwaves and anything that is made of metal because they can sell it as scrap either as is or once they break it down.

 

[kurosagi01]

Funny how theyve also been closing down local refuse/recycling centers where you can roll up in your car and dump whatever old tat that you don't want into one of their skips.

This has happened in my area and all it's done is increase illegal fly tipping.

There are people patrolling around in vans that will pick up things like broken microwaves and anything that is made of metal because they can sell it as scrap either as is or once they break it down.

Burning waste, flytipping, scrapping things for somebody else to use to potentially profit.
Mind blown.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Burning waste, flytipping, scrapping things for somebody else to use to potentially profit.
Mind blown.

I forgot to add that the people pick up the stuff for free if they come across it. So you dont need to pay them £50 to come out and pick it up. I mean, if the council wants £50 to come out i'll be fine paying them £50 so long as they load up the van themselves. Otherwise I'll keep incinerating my garden waste and grill a few burgers, sausages and marshmellows while im at it too.