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i just wish there was a Windows PC that comes with Thunderbolt.o_O
A lot of higher-end laptops and desktops have Thunderbolt. My XPS 15 7590 has a Thunderbolt 3 port. You can also install a Thunderbolt PCIe controller card.
 
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the box handgrip is broken :(
time to pint a new one? xd
The best? the price XD (29€ (35€SI)

also, [LFS/WTB] original mac mini "micky mouse" CA cord with EU plug. i have an adapter, but i prefeer without it... and i don't want cut the US plug and mount a new EU one...
 
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I still have the lovely Thunderbolt display i just wish there was a Windows PC that comes with Thunderbolt.
Thunderbolt 3 & 4 are pretty much available for every PC that comes with an USB4 port. It's part of the USB4 spec.

Thunderbolt 1 & 2 are basically Mac-only nowadays.
 
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also. the thunderbolt PCI cards (like Asus) is only compatibles with certain (Asus) motherboards as far i know
 
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also. the thunderbolt PCI cards (like Asus) is only compatibles with certain (Asus) motherboards as far i know
You need a board with an electrical PCIe Gen3 x4 slot and a Thunderbolt header for such cards to work. These are also manufacturer specific, Asus cards only work in Asus boards, MSI cards in MSI boards, etc. Power delivery also varies from manufacturer to manufacturer, especially MSI's and ASRock's card don't come even close to the up to 100W the Thunderbolt spec allows.

The cost is also quite prohibitive. Where I live, these cards go for €70 to €100.
 
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myself do prefer a Mac ,the thing i don,t like is that after seven years you can,t up date os :(I am now in that position :(At that point they say it is obsolete
Apple gives you about 6-7 years of lifespan on a Mac. The computers are good enough quality to usually still work well beyond that, so I agree it's a shame that's all the updates just end and then a lot of software, websites etc just stop working. I've worked in the repair industry and had people laugh at me when I told them their 2017 iMac is "vintage" and parts availability is very limited. But that's how they work.

Imo this is far more of an issue in machines with PPC or Apple M CPUs, because the Intel ones you can theoretically just slap Windows into. I could put Windows 10 onto this one and still have a fully supported, functional, and secure OS. Granted.... It's not going to run well with 512mb ram and a 60gb HDD. But because this is before Apple began to hate it's users, I can just upgrade that in a jiffy.
 
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Software Windows 11 Home/Windows 11 Pro (meaning to try Linux)
The computers are good enough quality to usually still work well beyond that...
The chassis, that is. Some of their design choices regarding the hardware is very bad. They have designed bad screen ribbon cables that fail and flex connectors with the 50 V screen backlight power contact right next to the data contact, just to name a few.
 
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Some of their design choices regarding the hardware is very bad.
*cough* butterfly keyboards *cough* :banghead:

I've seen so many die hard macOS fans losing it about that garbage and switching to Dells and Lenovos. It was worse than pretty much any other stupid shit Tim C(r)ook's Apple pulled.
 
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Mouse Logitech G502
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I think that Apple does a good job of making good chassis but I've watched enough of Louis Rossmann's videos to know that I would never buy one brand-new. I only have a 2015 MacBook Air because I received it and $40 from a trade involving an Oculus Rift S.
Most of my issues with Macs comes with what they've done in the last decade or so. Deliberate design choices to thwart repair. Security measures so intrusive they cause actual owners to lose data more than they save it from attackers, etc.

It really used to be a lot better for repairability, upgradability etc. I like this generation of MacBook because the chassis is great and overall it's a great cosmetic/functional design. I especially love the design of the screen latches. They look very clean and yet still work perfectly unlike any of my HP laptops of this era, just for example. The keyboard is excellent and backlit, and the touchpad is actually tolerable and a good size, which is uncommon on machines of this era. It has a lot of IO (FULL SIZE DVI!), is decently repairable/upgradable, the major parts chosen by Apple are good etc. Its not perfect, the speakers and screen aren't great but not was most laptops at this point.

I really hate macos as a whole, and especially the useless versions supported on this device. But since it's Intel I can slap Windows on this and be done with it.

The chassis, that is. Some of their design choices regarding the hardware is very bad. They have designed bad screen ribbon cables that fail and flex connectors with the 50 V screen backlight power contact right next to the data contact, just to name a few.
Oh I absolutely agree, I was just saying overall they tend to last the length of software support.

Butterfly keyboards feel terrible and are a horrible design. The backlights seem to die far more than on any other brand, often a cable or shorting issue. Old ones had bumpgate failures, logic board issues, etc.

I think as a whole the iMacs are the most reliable, but they also don't get moved dropped etc. the 3.5in HDDs they used in those till like 2020/2021 were disastrously slow drives when new and they like to die all the time, but it's an easy upgrade to solid state at least.
 
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Apple gives you about 6-7 years of lifespan on a Mac. The computers are good enough quality to usually still work well beyond that, so I agree it's a shame that's all the updates just end and then a lot of software, websites etc just stop working. I've worked in the repair industry and had people laugh at me when I told them their 2017 iMac is "vintage" and parts availability is very limited. But that's how they work.

Imo this is far more of an issue in machines with PPC or Apple M CPUs, because the Intel ones you can theoretically just slap Windows into. I could put Windows 10 oYS
nto this one and still have a fully supported, functional, and secure OS. Granted.... It's not going to run well with 512mb ram and a 60gb HDD. But because this is before Apple began to hate it's users, I can just upgrade that in a jiffy.
Its madness that something as new as 2017 is vintage o_O I did put Windows on here bit after a time it started having problems booting one to the other. I also put it on a external drive that to stated having problems .I also tried putting Lynx on here that was a big problem with there grub loader.256 internal drive is to small for windows and apple dual boot .I think i will try and get it on a external drive again i have quite a few Thunderbolt I don't need three with the same os on.
 
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Had someone come in with an ibook g4 they wanted to recycle. Out of curiosity I press the power button. It boots up perfectly, has a fully charged working battery, crazy. There's always an element of luck in how long something will last, regardless of brand. Also how you treat it, that thing didn't have a scuff on it.
 
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On another subject about real vintage computers my 1999 can anyone give me a link to get a network driver for 98se?o_OI have one i thought it did connect but it has.
 
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On another subject about real vintage computers my 1999 can anyone give me a link to get a network driver for 98se?o_O
What network card/chip do you use? Is it wireless or ethernet?
 
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I bought a 2006 MacBook Pro 15" A1150 almost a whole month ago now but just now got around to poking around at it. I am generally not a Mac person, however I got to interact with this generation of MacBook a few months ago and absolutely loved it, so I went out and bought one. In my classic fashion I bought the cheapest possible one I could find, paid $13 for it at eBay auction.

A little worse for wear. It was dirty and covered in tape residue, but the real issue is that its missing EVERY SINGLE SCREW that holds the bottom case together. Basically the thing just falls apart if you try and use it.
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There are more photos attached, didn't want to spam any more as embeds. It seems to be fully functional except that the slot loading drive eats discs and just makes angry noises instead of ejecting it, although it did play the disc fine. I had to disassemble it to recover my poor CD. The display works but has a lot of blemishes and yellowing, and the top case is very scratched. The white background of the apple logo is peeling up from within the top case. The ram cover is also missing on the bottom, as is a battery.

I have ordered a screw kit to fix the main issue, but honestly I am trying to fix this up on a budget so the other things can wait, if I ever fix them at all.
Buy another one just like it for parts and get it up and running. You should be able to hodge-podge enough parts together to get that unit working.
 
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Bought a Quantum Bigfoot Cyclone. I have 1 already. But its better to have more
I guess its a 2.1GB model


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Got one too. I loved waiting around 2h for 98SE to install on a Pentium 3 750MHz lol (and I am not being sarcastic here)

It's a 2160AT, by the way, which would be correct for 2.16GB.
 
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I am going to try this but not on my 2017 i Mac .I have a 2012 mac mini unfortunately
i got the lowest one at the time the i5 modal not the i7 .If it does not work nothing lost.
,I will also put Windows on a external drive.
 
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Damn, I know LGR lives in the SE, but I didn't realize he is in Asheville, NC. Here's to a speedy recovery for everyone impacted by this storm.

 
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Damn, I know LGR lives in the SE, but I didn't realize he is in Asheville, NC. Here's to a speedy recovery for everyone impacted by this storm.

poor ole Clint ,what about all his Retro equipment. o_OWish him well of course.:)

I am trying to get 98se that i got off Internet Archive on to my other vintage slot two board. :)It is taking forever loading the files on the SSD i am hoping i can do a dual boot with ME.:)That did not work.for one thing it instated on the whole drive,the OS said it had USB support it did n,t :(
 
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Could anyone help me figure out the GDDR3 specifications on my Quadro FX 4500? The modules are HYB18H512321BF-14 and I'm wondering what frequency/latency are they rated? Can't seem to figure it out from the PDF.

Read somewhere some FX 4500 are 7800 GTX 512MB (with better GDDR3 VRAM), instead of just more of slower RAM.
 
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