so whats with evga?

[R-T-B]

Why do you ppl keep beating a dead horse?

Cause the horse keeps selling rebranded PSUs.

We'd be happier if it was still a racing horse. As it's not what it used to be, we'll happily beat it to death in enthusiast discussions.

We're honestly merciless SOBs.

 

[PassportBro]

It's a dead horsy. Let it die in dignity.

 

[Bill_Bright]

Antec did a good job of it and that's why they are still around today.

As for a company surviving, I agree. But back in the day, Antec made the cases and power supplies to get. Even their case fans were top tier stuff. The Antec Plus 1080 was arguably the best, most solid built case on the market, and that I have ever own. Even though the old beige is downright ugly these days, I still own this case and it stands proudly as an end table in my basement guest room.

My point being, there have been few Antec cases (or products in general) that stood out (the Sonata, an exception, maybe) since then as being top-tier quality. Their PSUs are "good" but again not the top tier quality Antec used to stand for. Same with their other products.

Should a company be criticized for not lowering their standards under pressure - even if it means their demise? I don't like the workers being hurt by losing their jobs. But a company that sticks to their core principles should be applauded. And I think that is what EVGA is at least trying to do.

EVGA is still alive. We need to remember that. Where they go from here is what matters. I say wait and see before being so willing to pound that final nail in their coffin.

 

[ty_ger]

Should a company be criticized for not lowering their standards under pressure - even if it means their demise? I don't like the workers being hurt by losing their jobs. But a company that sticks to their core principles should be applauded. And I think that is what EVGA is at least trying to do.

Lol. Doesn't read and holds on to a fantasy.

EVGA is still alive. We need to remember that. Where they go from here is what matters. I say wait and see before being so willing to pound that final nail in their coffin.

EVGA is dying. The owner confirmed that they are retiring and the company will close. All they are doing is waiting out the warranty period on the majority of their expensive products sold in the past; which is commendable.

If you don't want to believe me, do some research. You think I am wrong, but live in a fantasy with zero actual knowledge on the subject.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

Same here. Them and Zotac for me, though MSI has been doing good recently.

MSI left a bad impression on me when yrs ago I bought a GTX 660 that caused my system to go black screen when switching inputs. They were pretty bad when calling them about it, which left me explaining the same thing several times in hopes to finally get someone understanding. No one offered to RMA it and check it out, and when I mentioned the problem I was having with it on the site I bought it on, MSI answered saying my PC must be messed up.

Fortunately the vendor gave me a full refund when I asked for one, and the 7970 I bought from them (and the GPU before that) had no such problem. The vendor however blocked my response comment. Nothing I said on that site was flagrant or even a rant, just an explanation of the black screen happening when switching inputs. I tend to vote with my wallet, and when manufacturers act like clowns, they don't get my vote.

I've said this before and the response was MSI likely have all new staff now, but to this day I can't say I trust them.

 

[Ruru]

I'm hoping I can score one of their RTX 3080 Ti or 3090 Ti cards as a keepsake sometime, but only after they get cheaper.

I could swap my 3080 TUF to an EVGA 3080 any day

Why do you ppl keep beating a dead horse?

Nostalgia and good memories. Just like many of us misses Abit for example.

 

[ty_ger]

Oh, Abit. My first motherboard. Well, first one I bought that wasn't built from alleyway scrap.

 

[inquisitor1]

I sent a 780i ftw mb with warranty for some issue . I was new into the gaming scene. I lapped the TR true120 heatsink and when I pulled the cooler it pulled out the cpu as well. bending 2-3 pins. they could have turned down my warrnaty for me doing damage to it, but a tech there was able to repair the pins, and swapped the bad components (caps I think-which i would do myself today) and sent it back to me shipping paid.

I only have great things to say about EVGA. nvidia has not shown the same loyalty to their clients. they can piss off.

 

[Ayhamb99]

I still hope that they would do the same what XFX did back in the day when they switched to camp AMD.

If EVGA were to ever return though I don't think they would do that. There's a quote from the CEO that I remember from that time during the interview but I can't for the life of me find it now where he said EVGA doesn't have plans to work with AMD or Intel with the reason being "because of the partnership i don't want to betray them."

What I understood from that quote is that it probably meant that they wanted to leave the opportunity to work with Nvidia again open if they ever decided to return, while highly improbable. XFX left on bad terms when they split away from Nvidia which meant they would and will never work together again. I think EVGA were trying their best to make sure that even if they left, they would have the opportunity to return in the future and not completely spoil their relationship with Nvidia because unfortunately Nvidia never forgives and forgets due to pettiness.

If EVGA ever announces they would partner with AMD or Intel it is safe to assume that would mean Nvidia will never work with EVGA ever again for the foreseeable future, which EVGA probably doesn't want if they ever change their minds to return to GPUs.

 

[Ruru]

If EVGA were to ever return though I don't think they would do that. There's a quote from the CEO that I remember from that time during the interview but I can't for the life of me find it now where he said EVGA doesn't have plans to work with AMD or Intel with the reason being "because of the partnership i don't want to betray them."

What I understood from that quote is that it probably meant that they wanted to leave the opportunity to work with Nvidia again open if they ever decided to return, while highly improbable. XFX left on bad terms when they split away from Nvidia which meant they would and will never work together again. I think EVGA were trying their best to make sure that even if they left, they would have the opportunity to return in the future and not completely spoil their relationship with Nvidia because unfortunately Nvidia never forgives and forgets due to pettiness.

If EVGA ever announces they would partner with AMD or Intel it is safe to assume that would mean Nvidia will never work with EVGA ever again for the foreseeable future, which EVGA probably doesn't want if they ever change their minds to return to GPUs.

Ah, then I understand. That sucks.

 

[ty_ger]

Citation? I haven't seen this.

His interview.

Why do people laugh at my posts and have an opinion when they are clueless?

 

[Ruru]

His interview.

Why do people laugh at my posts and have an opinion when they are clueless?

I don't laugh, we just miss the best NV AIB there was.

BFG was also pretty dope back in the day

 

[AleXXX666]

They aren't dead. And no, it is not quite clear they will close. Anything can happen in the next year or two.

Even if they do close up shop under this ownership, there is nothing to suggest another company won't take over their PSU and other component lines.

"another company" story is same as we have "Nokia" smartphones these days. Nice logo, but not that "Nokia" that was back then lol

 

[Ruru]

"another company" story is same as we have "Nokia" smartphones these days. Nice logo, but not that "Nokia" that was back then lol

Exactly. Nokia sold their smartphone business to Microsoft, then HMD bought the rights to the Nokia brand. Though HMD is a Finnish company too so at least we got something back home.

 

[inquisitor1]

I miss nokia phones. shame they were so slow to change with the times

they were bulletproof and excellent battery life. overconfidence taught them a lesson.

even motorola the jaggernaut fell.

 

[Ruru]

I miss nokia phones. shame they were so slow to change with the times

they were bulletproof and excellent battery life. overconfidence taught them a lesson.

even motorola the jaggernaut fell.

From the modern touchscreen smartphone era, Nokia E7 was one of my favourite. It was also pretty good handheld emulator console, thanks to the qwerty keyboard.

I had also several S60 oldschool smartphones from Nokia and loved all of them (6600, N70, N95 etc)

edit: Nokia's worst mistake was that they didn't start immediately compete with Apple when they launched the first iPhone, Nokia kept on going with the S60 platform when Apple made a better device every time. S60 5th edition (the touchscreen edition) was a total joke.

 

[inquisitor1]

they had a nice font. visually it looked modern with a euro look to it. brings back memories of my htc tytnII with windows mobile. I loved using the stylus. not sure why the hell today I type like shet on a big asz smartphone but on the small WM PPC I was rocking it like a boss.

nokia was slow to adjust. like blackberry and MS with WM 6.5 and onwards. they all felt so confident. appèle (my brother is a huge fanboy and always poke him with that-tim cook is no jobs) came in and broke everyone.shame we only have 2 OS today. and both suck.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

His interview.

Why do people laugh at my posts and have an opinion when they are clueless?

Do you have a link to this interview? A time stamp?

The proof is in the sauce and right now the plate's dry as a bone.

As for a company surviving, I agree. But back in the day, Antec made the cases and power supplies to get. Even their case fans were top tier stuff. The Antec Plus 1080 was arguably the best, most solid built case on the market, and that I have ever own. Even though the old beige is downright ugly these days, I still own this case and it stands proudly as an end table in my basement guest room.

My point being, there have been few Antec cases (or products in general) that stood out (the Sonata, an exception, maybe) since then as being top-tier quality. Their PSUs are "good" but again not the top tier quality Antec used to stand for. Same with their other products.

Should a company be criticized for not lowering their standards under pressure - even if it means their demise? I don't like the workers being hurt by losing their jobs. But a company that sticks to their core principles should be applauded. And I think that is what EVGA is at least trying to do.

EVGA's standards were already falling. The 2000s have overheating RAM and the 3000s were blowing capacitors. The overwhelming majority of RTX 3000s failing with that amazon MMO were EVGA cards. Cheap plastics and cheap fans.

EVGA is still alive. We need to remember that. Where they go from here is what matters. I say wait and see before being so willing to pound that final nail in their coffin.

"alive" is a strong word. EVGA is a zombie corp. They make no GPUs, their sound cards are gone, and their PSU selection is pathetic. They are losing employees and talent every day.

Look at their website! The tagline via google search still reads "EVGA North America's #1 NVIDIA partner.". Over two years after they announced they were done. Their website is full of references to products like the Nu Audio or their GPUs that just go nowhere because the product isnt made anymore. Everything you can still pruchase is rebranded keyboards and AIOs and PSUs.

Turns out, abandoning your core market is a really dumb idea. The CEO should have just retired and found a successor SMH. Instead he turns his legacy into cow dung.

 

[inquisitor1]

Turns out, abandoning your core market is a really dumb idea. The CEO should have just retired and found a successor SMH. Instead he turns his legacy into cow dung.

I think actually its the opposite. people who had evga have praise for them.

they should have sold it though to a proper company in the usa to keep it going well.

 

[freeagent]

The proof is in the sauce and right now the plate's dry as a bone.

Been awhile since I've seen it, pretty sure he said the words.

 

[80-watt Hamster]

EVGA did a crap job in diversifying. Antec did a good job of it and that's why they are still around today. Corsair did an excellent job of it and that is why they are so large. Yes it sucked Nvidia undercut EVGA in price on flagship GPUs but so what? Nvidia hardly flooded the market with their units and I found that excuse as a cop out Many other OEMs build PC parts and compete against their partners in the same space. Instead of buying up market share with low priced PSU (already low on margin to begin with) maybe they should have sold more high margin items like RGB fans, keyboards, and mice.

As for a company surviving, I agree. But back in the day, Antec made the cases and power supplies to get. Even their case fans were top tier stuff. The Antec Plus 1080 was arguably the best, most solid built case on the market, and that I have ever own. Even though the old beige is downright ugly these days, I still own this case and it stands proudly as an end table in my basement guest room.

My point being, there have been few Antec cases (or products in general) that stood out (the Sonata, an exception, maybe) since then as being top-tier quality. Their PSUs are "good" but again not the top tier quality Antec used to stand for. Same with their other products.

Antec's not around, at least not the Antec we knew. The OG design offices were closed, and the IP was sold to some holding company that decided to keep the brand alive. Granted, they're putting more effort into the brand these days and producing some reasonable products, but I don't think we'll ever see the return of the Antec that produced the P180 and my beloved Sonata SOLO.

 

[lexluthermiester]

His interview.

Why do people laugh at my posts and have an opinion when they are clueless?

Seriously? Link? I went looking and while I've seen several articles and forum posts where he states that the company is reducing operational focus, nowhere does it say he's retiring and shuddering the company.

 

[dirtyferret]

As for a company surviving, I agree. But back in the day, Antec made the cases and power supplies to get. Even their case fans were top tier stuff.

oh yeah, we have other threads in this forum discussing the fact they are 15 years past their hey day but back in the day with their Truepower PSUs, 300/600/900 cases and the fans with the RPM selectors. They were "the brand" in PC building. Credit to them for sticking around still and having a presence when so many other brands have come and gone or are really just shells of their former NA market presence.

I don't think we'll ever see the return of the Antec that produced the P180 and my beloved Sonata SOLO.

It's a shame because you can draw a clear line from their purchase in 2011 to them falling off the radar for many PC builders.

 

[Bobaganoosh]

EVGA's standards were already falling. The 2000s have overheating RAM and the 3000s were blowing capacitors. The overwhelming majority of RTX 3000s failing with that amazon MMO were EVGA cards. Cheap plastics and cheap fans.

The (mostly 3090) EVGA cards that were failing in New World (among other things) mostly due to a cheap poor design for the voltage regulators. Nvidia approved it, but it was still on EVGA to design and validate and it was not good. That's why their 3080TI had an entirely different VRM configuration and was a very robust card. The newest revision 3090 from them had an improved design, but all the Nvidia 3090's suffered from overheating memory due to putting it on the back-side of the card where very little heatsinking was possible out of the box. Every 3090 will fail sooner than it should due to that...from all brands...unless some aftermarket cooling is employed that also cools the back-side memory well. EVGA blamed a bad batch of solder (which may have also been true lol), but they never gave a serial number range or any way to track which "batch" it was other than all 0.1Revision cards, which is more indicative of a design issue...which they had. It could not hold up to sudden changes in loading that caused current spikes and dramatic voltage changes. Buildzoid had a really good analysis of their design and I believe he also showed the improvements on the 3080ti. There were other cards on the market that failed in New World and other poorly optimized titles (or titles that had sudden dramatic load fluctuations...which to be clear should not kill a card), but yes, EVGA's 3090's were definitely top of the list due to their cheap VRM design that they had been using for years while some other companies moved on to better designs.

 

[dirtyferret]

Been awhile since I've seen it, pretty sure he said the words.

I believe it was in an interview with GN but not certain and really don't feel like looking it up. Better than 50% certain it was GN where he said he was retiring and doesn't believe anyone could do the job in his place.