Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

Zach_01 · Sep 5, 2024

Steve-007UK said:
I will give them a try soon, and since my last post i did a few 3dmark runs on the CPU test and also a few firestrike ultra test and no crashes yet.

Just to be clear,
Real gaming is better than any GPU 3D benchmarks in showing stability issues.

Launcestonian · Sep 5, 2024

Why do EXPO profiles on AM5 always push SOC up to 1.25v for a mere 2000 FCLK?
Imo, this is lunacy & just adding unnecessary heat to the CPU.
This morning I'm testing two EXPO profiles in 2 different rigs & they both do this even on the latest bios & AGESA release.

lexluthermiester · Sep 5, 2024

Steve-007UK said:
3dmark runs on the CPU test and also a few firestrike ultra test and no crashes yet.

That is likely a very good sign!

Zach_01 · Sep 5, 2024

Launcestonian said:
Why do EXPO profiles on AM5 always push SOC up to 1.25v for a mere 2000 FCLK?
Imo, this is lunacy & just adding unnecessary heat to the CPU.
This morning I'm testing two EXPO profiles in 2 different rigs & they both do this even on the latest bios & AGESA release.

Going from like 1.1v to 1.25v on SoC voltage will add maybe a few watt. Under 5W
Same thing on AM4. Jedec profile works with 1.0~1.08v and when you enabling XMP the boards are shoving up to 1.2v SoC if not more.
I've lowered mine to 1.1v

Its the universal way to ensure stability for all CPU/board/DRAM combos out there... or so they think it is.

Launcestonian · Sep 6, 2024

Zach_01 said:
Going from like 1.1v to 1.25v on SoC voltage will add maybe a few watt. Under 5W
Same thing on AM4. Jedec profile works with 1.0~1.08v and when you enabling XMP the boards are shoving up to 1.2v SoC if not more.
I've lowered mine to 1.1v

Its the universal way to ensure stability for all CPU/board/DRAM combos out there... or so they think it is.

Yeah, I get that, but in tightly fitting areas like CPU sockets & transistor density compacting more & more with each generation, the laws of physics dictate heat has to go somewhere even if the electrical energy used to measure is just a few watts. I've noticed dropping SOCv for 2000 FCLK to something like 1.13v with LLC adjusted reduces temps by up to 5C under full load conditions. Thus enabling the PBO mechanism to improve its performance.

R-T-B · Sep 6, 2024

Anyone experimented with low latency ddr5 and a sync'd fclk? I'm wondering how it might impact some of am5's bandwidth issues. My bet is it would be worse, or obviously they'd be advising it, but are there any actual benches that have tried like ddr5-4000 or ddr5-4200, etc? Sorta gotta a brain worm telling me to try it.

Ruru · Sep 12, 2024

Good enough for 2600X (I have the CPU lying on my shelf, came with my Crosshair VII)?

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Ruru · Oct 11, 2024

My Crosshair VII has an annoying bug, its LEDs don't turn off on standby. What I mean that it forgets that I've disabled them after one reboot. :confused:

Chomiq · Oct 18, 2024

Ruru said:
My Crosshair VII has an annoying bug, its LEDs don't turn off on standby. What I mean that it forgets that I've disabled them after one reboot.

Umm:

Have you tried that?

Ruru · Oct 18, 2024

Chomiq said:
Umm:
View attachment 368046
Have you tried that?

Many times. The lower option resets to ON in some point anyway.

Chomiq · Oct 18, 2024

Ruru said:
Many times. The lower option resets to ON in some point anyway.

Have you tried this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/12d4d0u

Ruru · Oct 18, 2024

Chomiq said:
Have you tried this:
View attachment 368049

Interesting.. that could be the reason. I have the whole Craptory Crate just that I can check my headphones' battery level :laugh:

Klemc · Oct 23, 2024

What that means (7800x3d here) ?

Phase in AMD cTDP to 105W option for particular processors.

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tabascosauz · Oct 23, 2024

Klemc said:
What that means (7800x3d here) ?

Phase in AMD cTDP to 105W option for particular processors.

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configurable TDP, like on most Ryzen CPUs

105W (142W) won't be relevant to your 7800X3D, that's for sure, it can't even reach 100W..........unless your 7800X3D was fabbed on Intel 7 :laugh:

Probably useful for most if not all 2CCD AM5 CPUs (either 170W (230W) or 120W (162W))

Super Firm Tofu · Oct 23, 2024

Klemc said:
What that means (7800x3d here) ?

Phase in AMD cTDP to 105W option for particular processors.

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That specific update is to give the option for the 9700X to have a 105W setting that doesn't need to be manually configured.

It's in response to the opinions that default 65W (88W) that the 9700X ships with limits performance. It's really just pushes that CPU out of it's optimal efficiency curve.

Klemc · Oct 23, 2024

Super Firm Tofu said:
That specific update is to give the option for the 9700X to have a 105W setting that doesn't need to be manually configured.

It's in response to the opinions that default 65W (88W) that the 9700X ships with limits performance. It's really just pushes that CPU out of it's optimal efficiency curve.

Perfect,

and what about, for my 7800x3d, that i set Core Performance Boost to OFF, and have DOCP disabled too, can i use DOCP anyway and it will work if Core Perf Boost is OFF ?

It's verry less hot and i don't see perf diff with this "Boost" option (is auto O/C infact, as description says) OFF or ON. It's with a 4070ti btw.

tabascosauz · Oct 23, 2024

Klemc said:
Perfect,

and what about, for my 7800x3d, that i set Core Performance Boost to OFF, and have DOCP disabled too, can i use DOCP anyway and it will work if Core Perf Boost is OFF ?

It's verry less hot and i don't see perf diff with this "Boost" option (is auto O/C infact, as description says) OFF or ON. It's with a 4070ti btw.

CPB off = 4.2GHz

I don't see what CPB has to do with DOCP/XMP/EXPO. They don't require one another.

7800X3D doesn't even run that hot. I mean, sure, if you enjoy wasting money on performance and not using it.

Klemc · Oct 23, 2024

tabascosauz said:
CPB off = 4.2GHz

I don't see what CPB has to do with DOCP/XMP/EXPO. They don't require one another.

7800X3D doesn't even run that hot. I mean, sure, if you enjoy wasting money on performance and not using it.

Oh, but i don't see anything, perhaps the last game that uses Path Tracing and such ?.. i can reenable it anyway, it's easy, but i play not just and only high end games, there is a few that push my CPU, like Baldur Gate 3 (?) but i'm done (twice) with it.

OS you advise me to enable CPB for demanding games !? OKay.

What i seen is that when enabled it gets hotter at idle, and anyway it never reaches more than 79° (limit is 89 btw) ON/OFF in hardest tests i could give on my PC... perhaps it's more power eficient with CPB OFF btw ?

tabascosauz · Oct 23, 2024

Klemc said:
Oh, but i don't see anything, perhaps the last game that uses Path Tracing and such ?.. i can reenable it anyway, it's easy, but i play not just and only high end games, there is a few that push my CPU, like Baldur Gate 3 (?) but i'm done (twice) with it.

OS you advise me to enable CPB for demanding games !? OKay.

What i seen is that when enabled it gets hotter at idle, and anyway it never reaches more than 79° (limit is 89 btw) ON/OFF in hardest tests i could give on my PC... perhaps it's more power eficient with CPB OFF btw ?

I didn't say anything about demanding games. CPB is just AMD's equivalent of Turbo Boost. If you enjoy limiting your CPU to base clock and completely disabling boost clocks for no reason, then sure, do it to your heart's content.

Of course it's going to be technically "more efficient" at base clock, every CPU ever with any form of boost is like that.

That's like saying my car is more efficient at 1500rpm than it is at redline 6000rpm, therefore I'm going to impose my own rev limiter at 1500rpm because I like the sound of the word "efficiency". Except even more ridiculous than the car analogy, because while 6000rpm all day long will probably harm your engine, boost clocks 24/7/365 will not harm your CPU.

Klemc · Oct 23, 2024

OKay, i'll reenable it and look if i see anything change, there is only games on that PC tbh (100%).

Onasi · Oct 28, 2024

Wanted to see if anyone encountered this - decided to update the B550 chipset driver and all went well except that the Power Provisioning failed to install and (apparently) also removed the version that was already there, including the Provisioning Package itself in Win 11 settings. After a reboot I decided to re-install and this time all went well and the package returned. So, uh, that was a tad weird. Some speculations I’ve seen suggest that AMD considers the PPS obsolete for Zen 3 on Win 11, hence the strange behavior. Any truth to that?

freeagent · Oct 28, 2024

Noticed something funky on 3 different installs of 24H2. Linpack Xtreme no longer works.

I am dual booting with 10 and it works just fine there. Something is different.

iNinja9K · Oct 28, 2024

Klemc said:
OKay, i'll reenable it and look if i see anything change, there is only games on that PC tbh (100%).

Definitely give CPB another shot and see if it makes a difference in your gaming. Just keep an eye on the temps, though. If it runs hotter but you're not seeing a big boost, it might be worth sticking with it off for those less demanding games.

Klemc · Oct 28, 2024

IDK if tied, but i installed one then found less than 24h later anwer, so i compared files and they are exact same but not in same dir, and a few files mismatch btw naming (tp/sz changed :

Well, it added AMD-Interface-Driver.msi, but driver files are the same

Chipset
AMD Chipset Driver V6.10.02.1849
2024/10/17
DRV_Chipset_AMD_AM5_SZ-TSD_W11_64_V610021849_20241017R.zip

AMD Chipset Driver V6.07.15.126
2024/08/12
DRV_Chipset_AMD_AM5_TP_TSD_W11_64_V60715126_20240806B.zip

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kapone32 · Oct 28, 2024

freeagent said:
Noticed something funky on 3 different installs of 24H2. Linpack Xtreme no longer works.

I am dual booting with 10 and it works just fine there. Something is different.

24H2 is hot pile of mess. For some reason it borked my Mouse and had to get a new one. Now it has auto Wallpaper refresh meaning your display is now connected to the Internet. I actually had to reset Windows to get it to work. It only went black instead of totally losing mouse control after the change though.

System Name	PC on since Aug 2019, 1st CPU R5 3600 + ASUS ROG RX580 8GB >> MSI Gaming X RX5700XT (Jan 2020)
Processor	Ryzen 9 5900X (July 2022), 200W PPT limit, 80C temp limit, CO -6-14, +50MHz (up to 5.0GHz)
Motherboard	Gigabyte X570 Aorus Pro (Rev1.0), BIOS F39b, AGESA V2 1.2.0.C
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Mouse	Logitech MX Master (Gen1)
Keyboard	Logitech G15 (Gen2) w/ LCDSirReal applet
Software	Windows 11 Home 64bit (v24H2, OSBuild 26100.2605), upgraded from Win10 to Win11 on Jan 2024

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Video Card(s)	Asus TUF gaming RX 7900 XTX OC edition
Storage	1TB T-Force Z44A7 + 2TB T-Force A440 Pro
Display(s)	34 " Asus TUF Gaming VG3A series
Case	Antec C8 constellation white edition
Audio Device(s)	Asus Xonar AE 7.1 + Logitech Z906
Power Supply	Corsair RM1000x V2
Mouse	MSI Clutch GM20 Elite
Keyboard	Logitech G512 Carbon

System Name	PC on since Aug 2019, 1st CPU R5 3600 + ASUS ROG RX580 8GB >> MSI Gaming X RX5700XT (Jan 2020)
Processor	Ryzen 9 5900X (July 2022), 200W PPT limit, 80C temp limit, CO -6-14, +50MHz (up to 5.0GHz)
Motherboard	Gigabyte X570 Aorus Pro (Rev1.0), BIOS F39b, AGESA V2 1.2.0.C
Cooling	Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420mm Rev7 (Jan 2024) with off-center mount for Ryzen, TIM: Kryonaut
Memory	2x16GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo GTZN (July 2022) 3667MT/s 1.42V CL16-16-16-16-32-48 1T, tRFC:280, B-die
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Storage	Samsung NVMe: 980Pro 1TB(OS 2022), 970Pro 512GB(2019) / SATA-III: 850Pro 1TB(2015) 860Evo 1TB(2020)
Display(s)	Dell Alienware AW3423DW 34" QD-OLED curved (1800R), 3440x1440 144Hz (max 175Hz) HDR400/1000, VRR on
Case	None... naked on desk
Audio Device(s)	Astro A50 headset
Power Supply	Corsair HX750i, ATX v2.4, 80+ Platinum, 93% (250~700W), modular, single/dual rail (switch)
Mouse	Logitech MX Master (Gen1)
Keyboard	Logitech G15 (Gen2) w/ LCDSirReal applet
Software	Windows 11 Home 64bit (v24H2, OSBuild 26100.2605), upgraded from Win10 to Win11 on Jan 2024

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Audio Device(s)	Asus Xonar AE 7.1 + Logitech Z906
Power Supply	Corsair RM1000x V2
Mouse	MSI Clutch GM20 Elite
Keyboard	Logitech G512 Carbon

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Processor	Ryzen R9 9950X
Motherboard	GIGABYTE Aorus Elite X670 AX
Cooling	Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon and Corsair Maglev blower fans...
Memory	64GB (4x 16GB) G.Skill Flare X5 @ DDR5-6000 CL30
Video Card(s)	XFX RX 7900 XTX Speedster Merc 310
Storage	Intel 5800X Optane 800GB boot, +2x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs
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Case	Thermaltake Core X31
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Power Supply	FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W
Mouse	Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless
Keyboard	WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches + PBT DS keycaps
Software	Gentoo Linux x64 / Windows 11 Enterprise IoT 2024

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Power Supply	SeaSonic Focus Plus Gold 750W
Mouse	Endgame Gear XM1R
Keyboard	Wooting Two HE

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Processor	7800X3D
Motherboard	B-650E-E Strix
Cooling	Arctic Cooling III 280
Memory	16x2 Fury Renegade 6000-32
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Power Supply	Shift 1000
Mouse	502 Hero
Keyboard	K68
Software	EMDB
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Processor	7800X3D┃5800X3D
Motherboard	B650E PG-ITX┃X570 Impact
Cooling	NH-U12A + T30┃AXP120-x67
Memory	64GB 6400CL32┃32GB 3600CL14
Video Card(s)	RTX 4070 Ti Eagle┃RTX A2000
Storage	8TB of SSDs┃1TB SN550
Case	Caselabs S3┃Lazer3D HT5

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Motherboard	Gigabyte Aorus B550 Pro
Cooling	CPU - Noctua NH-D15S Case - 3 Noctua NF-A14 PWM at the bottom, 2 Fractal Design 180mm at the front
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Mouse	Razer Viper (Original) on a X-Raypad Equate Plus V2
Keyboard	Cooler Master QuickFire Rapid TKL keyboard (Cherry MX Black)
Software	Windows 11 Pro (24H2)

Processor	AMD R7 5800X3D
Motherboard	Asus Crosshair VIII Dark Hero
Cooling	Thermalright Frozen Edge 360, 3x TL-B12 V2, 2x TL-B12 V1
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Case	Fractal Torrent Compact
Audio Device(s)	JBL Bar 700
Power Supply	Seasonic Vertex GX-1000, Monster HDP1800
Mouse	Logitech G502 Hero
Keyboard	Logitech G213
VR HMD	Oculus 3
Software	Yes
Benchmark Scores	Yes

System Name	Best AMD Computer
Processor	AMD 7900X3D
Motherboard	Asus X670E E Strix
Cooling	In Win SR36
Memory	GSKILL DDR5 32GB 5200 30
Video Card(s)	Sapphire Pulse 7900XT (Watercooled)
Storage	Corsair MP 700, Seagate 530 2Tb, Adata SX8200 2TBx2, Kingston 2 TBx2, Micron 8 TB, WD AN 1500
Display(s)	GIGABYTE FV43U
Case	Corsair 7000D Airflow
Audio Device(s)	Corsair Void Pro, Logitch Z523 5.1
Power Supply	Deepcool 1000M
Mouse	Logitech g7 gaming mouse
Keyboard	Logitech G510
Software	Windows 11 Pro 64 Steam. GOG, Uplay, Origin
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