• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

The Official Magic the Gathering card game Rules, Questions, and General Discussion Thread

Joined
Sep 17, 2014
Messages
22,452 (6.03/day)
Location
The Washing Machine
Processor 7800X3D
Motherboard MSI MAG Mortar b650m wifi
Cooling Thermalright Peerless Assassin
Memory 32GB Corsair Vengeance 30CL6000
Video Card(s) ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming
Storage Lexar NM790 4TB + Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial BX100 250GB
Display(s) Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440)
Case Lian Li A3 mATX White
Audio Device(s) Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1
Power Supply EVGA Supernova G2 750W
Mouse Steelseries Aerox 5
Keyboard Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II
Software W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC
Benchmark Scores Over 9000
It won't let me edit my post above, so I have to post again.
I am playing the new expansion tonight, and this is the best common I have seen in many years... really should have been an uncommon, not that these designations mean anything anymore with this game, but eh.

View attachment 364716

In other news, I am enjoying the new expansion more than I expected, they gave us a free Jump Start with the midweek Magic event, that is kind of fun cause it's fairly balanced. Stuff like this is why I enjoy Arena, doesn't cost me a penny and I get to enjoy the new cards.


Edit: here is the new mastery pass card sleeve styles, loving the art on these

View attachment 364723
But that's seven whoppin mana, right... for one card up and a deathtouch effect. Its common because that's rather expensive mana wise. Four mana cards should already be big game impact, a single attacker with deathtouch isn't exactly that. You're also not getting deathtouch on a defender. You also don't have a body that actually attacks, yet.

There's a lot of cards in this category now that so many sets come around. Its always good to dissect them completely. What do they really give you in your game? Some keywords look real tough but their wording / the rest of the card then kind of mutes that effect a bit.
 

Space Lynx

Astronaut
Joined
Oct 17, 2014
Messages
17,262 (4.67/day)
Location
Kepler-186f
Processor 7800X3D -25 all core ($196)
Motherboard B650 Steel Legend ($179)
Cooling Frost Commander 140 ($42)
Memory 32gb ddr5 (2x16) cl 30 6000 ($80)
Video Card(s) Merc 310 7900 XT @3100 core $(705)
Display(s) Agon 27" QD-OLED Glossy 240hz 1440p ($399)
Case NZXT H710 (Red/Black) ($60)
But that's seven whoppin mana, right... for one card up and a deathtouch effect. Its common because that's rather expensive mana wise. Four mana cards should already be big game impact, a single attacker with deathtouch isn't exactly that. You're also not getting deathtouch on a defender. You also don't have a body that actually attacks, yet.

There's a lot of cards in this category now that so many sets come around. Its always good to dissect them completely. What do they really give you in your game? Some keywords look real tough but their wording / the rest of the card then kind of mutes that effect a bit.

Could be good for Pauper format though. I rarely run commons in Standard Ranked.
 

Space Lynx

Astronaut
Joined
Oct 17, 2014
Messages
17,262 (4.67/day)
Location
Kepler-186f
Processor 7800X3D -25 all core ($196)
Motherboard B650 Steel Legend ($179)
Cooling Frost Commander 140 ($42)
Memory 32gb ddr5 (2x16) cl 30 6000 ($80)
Video Card(s) Merc 310 7900 XT @3100 core $(705)
Display(s) Agon 27" QD-OLED Glossy 240hz 1440p ($399)
Case NZXT H710 (Red/Black) ($60)
Joined
Jan 1, 2012
Messages
341 (0.07/day)
Unfortunately, I know absolutely nothing about Magic (unless it's White Magic!), but that looks neat. Seeing that on cards reminds of the physical version of the card game within Final Fantasy IX that they released.

And... now I want to play through Final Fantasy X again. It's funny what seeing a picture can do. The awkward thing about that is I played it a couple years ago and "finished" it but then went on to do all the end game grinding stuff and never finished it (and I wanted to do that before moving on to starting X-2), so... I never reached that one. So if I go to replay X now, that means replaying it pretty soon, but I'd want to play it if I replay X-2, and I want to replay that too. Choices, choices. I still need to finish the pixel remaster of of VI and then I wanted to play VIII (recently replayed IX already, but I might even redo that one to dig into the Moguri mod). And all of that is on a back burner because I'm focusing on other stuff until... probably early next year at least? So by time I do get around to X again, maybe enough time will have passed I don't mind replaying it again.
 

Space Lynx

Astronaut
Joined
Oct 17, 2014
Messages
17,262 (4.67/day)
Location
Kepler-186f
Processor 7800X3D -25 all core ($196)
Motherboard B650 Steel Legend ($179)
Cooling Frost Commander 140 ($42)
Memory 32gb ddr5 (2x16) cl 30 6000 ($80)
Video Card(s) Merc 310 7900 XT @3100 core $(705)
Display(s) Agon 27" QD-OLED Glossy 240hz 1440p ($399)
Case NZXT H710 (Red/Black) ($60)
Unfortunately, I know absolutely nothing about Magic (unless it's White Magic!), but that looks neat. Seeing that on cards reminds of the physical version of the card game within Final Fantasy IX that they released.

And... now I want to play through Final Fantasy X again. It's funny what seeing a picture can do. The awkward thing about that is I played it a couple years ago and "finished" it but then went on to do all the end game grinding stuff and never finished it (and I wanted to do that before moving on to starting X-2), so... I never reached that one. So if I go to replay X now, that means replaying it pretty soon, but I'd want to play it if I replay X-2, and I want to replay that too. Choices, choices. I still need to finish the pixel remaster of of VI and then I wanted to play VIII (recently replayed IX already, but I might even redo that one to dig into the Moguri mod). And all of that is on a back burner because I'm focusing on other stuff until... probably early next year at least? So by time I do get around to X again, maybe enough time will have passed I don't mind replaying it again.

Maybe just watch some story summaries of different parts of FFX, and then finish your end game stuff after that, then start X-2, that will save you a lot of time. I replayed FFX recently as well, but when I went from Deck LCD to Deck OLED, I forgot I had Steam Cloud turned off, and I reset my LCD when I moved to OLED model, so I lost like 60 hours of gameplay... was brutal. Not sure I will start back over any time soon, it's just such a major commitment, but I had fun though. I will eventually.

Also, White Mage is my favorite class in FFXIV at the moment, so I also like White Magic. Anyways, I wish you the best on your replays! I actually find getting cozy with Deck OLED is very fun for games like Final Fantasy, you should consider a handheld of some kind.

:clap:
 
Joined
Sep 17, 2014
Messages
22,452 (6.03/day)
Location
The Washing Machine
Processor 7800X3D
Motherboard MSI MAG Mortar b650m wifi
Cooling Thermalright Peerless Assassin
Memory 32GB Corsair Vengeance 30CL6000
Video Card(s) ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming
Storage Lexar NM790 4TB + Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial BX100 250GB
Display(s) Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440)
Case Lian Li A3 mATX White
Audio Device(s) Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1
Power Supply EVGA Supernova G2 750W
Mouse Steelseries Aerox 5
Keyboard Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II
Software W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC
Benchmark Scores Over 9000
Maybe just watch some story summaries of different parts of FFX, and then finish your end game stuff after that, then start X-2, that will save you a lot of time. I replayed FFX recently as well, but when I went from Deck LCD to Deck OLED, I forgot I had Steam Cloud turned off, and I reset my LCD when I moved to OLED model, so I lost like 60 hours of gameplay... was brutal. Not sure I will start back over any time soon, it's just such a major commitment, but I had fun though. I will eventually.

Also, White Mage is my favorite class in FFXIV at the moment, so I also like White Magic. Anyways, I wish you the best on your replays! I actually find getting cozy with Deck OLED is very fun for games like Final Fantasy, you should consider a handheld of some kind.

:clap:
Ffx runs on Deck? Wuuuut I need this
 

Space Lynx

Astronaut
Joined
Oct 17, 2014
Messages
17,262 (4.67/day)
Location
Kepler-186f
Processor 7800X3D -25 all core ($196)
Motherboard B650 Steel Legend ($179)
Cooling Frost Commander 140 ($42)
Memory 32gb ddr5 (2x16) cl 30 6000 ($80)
Video Card(s) Merc 310 7900 XT @3100 core $(705)
Display(s) Agon 27" QD-OLED Glossy 240hz 1440p ($399)
Case NZXT H710 (Red/Black) ($60)
Ffx runs on Deck? Wuuuut I need this

yeah, and imo it makes the game more enjoyable, because I was mostly just chilling in bed playing completely relaxed, so it was easier to just get lost in the story. Also, the back buttons on the Deck I would manually change to the bonus features like increasing speed, no random battles, etc. It was really easy to do too

anyways, back on topic for magic. couple hours until my new quest unlocks for the day, so looking forward to that. i have 140k gold saved up now, im saving all my gems and gold to enjoy the final fantasy crossover next year without paying a penny :roll:
 
Joined
Jan 1, 2012
Messages
341 (0.07/day)
I actually find getting cozy with Deck OLED is very fun for games like Final Fantasy, you should consider a handheld of some kind.
I sort of have been considering a Steam Deck, as the smaller screen size and the lower resolution would be nice (there's still the 4:3 thing, but oh well), and it could be something I lay in bed and play, haha.

And yeah, I'm split on if I'll play X again or skip it and go to X-2. I definitely don't need to look the story up to refresh me; I remember it all. It was mostly seeing that picture in the article you showed that made me go "yeah, I want to play it again now".
 

stinger608

Dedicated TPU Cruncher & Folder
Joined
Nov 11, 2008
Messages
11,202 (1.91/day)
Location
Wyoming
System Name Dean Machine/2020 Ryzenfall
Processor Intel 4790K/AMD Ryzen 5800X
Motherboard MSI 1150 Gaming mATX/Asus ROG STRIX B550-F Gaming Wifi
Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 LED/SilverStone AH240 AIO
Memory 16 gigs Crucial Ballistix Tactical Tracer/32 gigs G.Skill TridentZ NEO DDR4
Video Card(s) Gigabyte 1660 Super/EVGA GTX 1080 FTW Hybrid Gaming
Storage Crucial SSD 256 and 2TB spinner/Dual Samsung 980 Pro M2 NVME 4.0
Display(s) Overlord 27" 2560 x 1440
Case Corsair Air 540
Audio Device(s) On board
Power Supply Seasonic modular 850 watt Platinum/EVGA T2-850 Titanium
Software Windows 10 Pro/Windows 10 Pro
Ya know, I have been watching this thread off and on for quite some time.

I've got a "pile" of these cards that I've had for probably 20+ years now.

Thought about selling them, but don't know where a good place would be to sell these at.

Hell, I don't even know if they are worth anything. LOL
 
Joined
Feb 6, 2020
Messages
268 (0.15/day)
Location
Elsewhere, USA
System Name Regular PC | Server HP Z440
Processor 9700k | E5-2698v3
Motherboard Gigabyte Z390 Gaming X-CF | Stock mobo
Cooling Scythe Mugen 5 rev. B | Stock HS
Memory 32 GB (8x4) | 112 GB (8x2 + 16x6)
Video Card(s) RTX 2070 Super | K4000
Storage 970 EVO+ 1TB | 860 1TB x2
Display(s) XV340CK x2, 1080p x2
Power Supply Corsair RM750x | Corsair RM750e
Software ZorinOS Pro | Proxmox
Ya know, I have been watching this thread off and on for quite some time.

I've got a "pile" of these cards that I've had for probably 20+ years now.

Thought about selling them, but don't know where a good place would be to sell these at.

Hell, I don't even know if they are worth anything. LOL
OOld cards have a high probability of being pricey. A few examples from when I got back into it, shortly before the investors ruined the game, cards on the reserve list like mox diamond were only $35, now it's around $800. Same for lions eye diamond. My brother opened that in the '96/'97 and chucked it in a box with commons. Dumb cards I just kind of bought "just cuz" like Copper Tablet (beta) for $2 are now hundreds.
 
Joined
Apr 24, 2020
Messages
2,710 (1.61/day)
Ya know, I have been watching this thread off and on for quite some time.

I've got a "pile" of these cards that I've had for probably 20+ years now.

Thought about selling them, but don't know where a good place would be to sell these at.

Hell, I don't even know if they are worth anything. LOL

There's a big difference between 20 year old cards and 27 year old cards.

20 year old cards are like, Mirrodin (aka: year 2003). Which has $10 to $100 cards in it. Like... cool but nothing to go crazy over. (And even then, there's only ~10-ish cards above $20 in that set). If you've got an Isochron Scepter or something, yeah its a cool $15 to $20 if its new (though you'd might have to drop the price down to $8 or so if its only in fair condition).

27 year old cards like Original printing, Alpha, Beta (etc. etc) has $500 to $200,000 cards in it (dual lands on the $500 side and $200,000++ is obviously a top-end Black Lotus. Probably more common to find a $10,000 Black Lotus but uhhhhh, you probably don't have that one. And if you did, it probably isn't in tip-top condition to sell for over $10k).

The vast, vast, vast majority of cards are worth 5-cents or less however. You'd be looking for "money cards", which you'd have to look up. If you dropped a few pictures in this thread, maybe we can help you get started.
 

Space Lynx

Astronaut
Joined
Oct 17, 2014
Messages
17,262 (4.67/day)
Location
Kepler-186f
Processor 7800X3D -25 all core ($196)
Motherboard B650 Steel Legend ($179)
Cooling Frost Commander 140 ($42)
Memory 32gb ddr5 (2x16) cl 30 6000 ($80)
Video Card(s) Merc 310 7900 XT @3100 core $(705)
Display(s) Agon 27" QD-OLED Glossy 240hz 1440p ($399)
Case NZXT H710 (Red/Black) ($60)
Ya know, I have been watching this thread off and on for quite some time.

I've got a "pile" of these cards that I've had for probably 20+ years now.

Thought about selling them, but don't know where a good place would be to sell these at.

Hell, I don't even know if they are worth anything. LOL

You definitely can sell them directly to some of these magic sites, no hassle. I forget what the best ones are.


I was recommended Card Kingdom I think at one point, but there might be better ones, I am unsure.
 

stinger608

Dedicated TPU Cruncher & Folder
Joined
Nov 11, 2008
Messages
11,202 (1.91/day)
Location
Wyoming
System Name Dean Machine/2020 Ryzenfall
Processor Intel 4790K/AMD Ryzen 5800X
Motherboard MSI 1150 Gaming mATX/Asus ROG STRIX B550-F Gaming Wifi
Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 LED/SilverStone AH240 AIO
Memory 16 gigs Crucial Ballistix Tactical Tracer/32 gigs G.Skill TridentZ NEO DDR4
Video Card(s) Gigabyte 1660 Super/EVGA GTX 1080 FTW Hybrid Gaming
Storage Crucial SSD 256 and 2TB spinner/Dual Samsung 980 Pro M2 NVME 4.0
Display(s) Overlord 27" 2560 x 1440
Case Corsair Air 540
Audio Device(s) On board
Power Supply Seasonic modular 850 watt Platinum/EVGA T2-850 Titanium
Software Windows 10 Pro/Windows 10 Pro
Hmm, I'll get them pulled out and get pictures of them.

I have 0 idea of what cards I have.

I'm thinking these are from mid to late 1990's though. Seems like that's when I grabbed these.

LOL, I don't even know why I've kept them for so many years. :p
Maybe foresight? :laugh:
 

iNinja9K

New Member
Joined
May 27, 2022
Messages
26 (0.03/day)
Hmm, I'll get them pulled out and get pictures of them.

I have 0 idea of what cards I have.

I'm thinking these are from mid to late 1990's though. Seems like that's when I grabbed these.

LOL, I don't even know why I've kept them for so many years. :p
Maybe foresight? :laugh:
Haha, stinger608, that's legendary you’ve hoarded those cards for decades! Dust them off and take some pics, who knows, you might be sitting on a goldmine! Card Kingdom is solid, but eBay’s like a wild card in a game of chance.
 

Space Lynx

Astronaut
Joined
Oct 17, 2014
Messages
17,262 (4.67/day)
Location
Kepler-186f
Processor 7800X3D -25 all core ($196)
Motherboard B650 Steel Legend ($179)
Cooling Frost Commander 140 ($42)
Memory 32gb ddr5 (2x16) cl 30 6000 ($80)
Video Card(s) Merc 310 7900 XT @3100 core $(705)
Display(s) Agon 27" QD-OLED Glossy 240hz 1440p ($399)
Case NZXT H710 (Red/Black) ($60)
Hmm, I'll get them pulled out and get pictures of them.

I have 0 idea of what cards I have.

I'm thinking these are from mid to late 1990's though. Seems like that's when I grabbed these.

LOL, I don't even know why I've kept them for so many years. :p
Maybe foresight? :laugh:

I would avoid ebay personally, too many scammers there. At least if you do a big trade with Card Kingdom you know it will be processed properly, etc. On the other hand, you could just keep them and enjoy them for nostalgia. I don't have anything too valuable from my old collection, so I just kept mine for nostalgia.

I had an awesome Blue/Green Madness deck when I was in high school, but some kid offered me 75 bucks for it, and it only cost me $35 to build it. So, I made profit and sold it, but stuff like that I still regret, just cause it would be neat to relive some of those matches with my old decks.
 

Space Lynx

Astronaut
Joined
Oct 17, 2014
Messages
17,262 (4.67/day)
Location
Kepler-186f
Processor 7800X3D -25 all core ($196)
Motherboard B650 Steel Legend ($179)
Cooling Frost Commander 140 ($42)
Memory 32gb ddr5 (2x16) cl 30 6000 ($80)
Video Card(s) Merc 310 7900 XT @3100 core $(705)
Display(s) Agon 27" QD-OLED Glossy 240hz 1440p ($399)
Case NZXT H710 (Red/Black) ($60)
one bad thing about magic arena, is that if you do a sealed deck tournament, cost of entry is 2000 gems, but even if you end up as champion, max you can win is 2200 gems, so 200 gems win for the champion, sure the few packs are nice, but packs are easy to get for 100 gold, its not really worth even doing sealed tournaments, the winnings are just junk, they need to increase it to 2600 gems or 3000 for first place winner, or leave it at 2200 gems but make it like 10 packs instead of 3. i just have no desire to do a tournament, its so hard to win, but even if you do i mean who cares. lol

1731675764964.png
 
Joined
Sep 17, 2014
Messages
22,452 (6.03/day)
Location
The Washing Machine
Processor 7800X3D
Motherboard MSI MAG Mortar b650m wifi
Cooling Thermalright Peerless Assassin
Memory 32GB Corsair Vengeance 30CL6000
Video Card(s) ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming
Storage Lexar NM790 4TB + Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial BX100 250GB
Display(s) Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440)
Case Lian Li A3 mATX White
Audio Device(s) Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1
Power Supply EVGA Supernova G2 750W
Mouse Steelseries Aerox 5
Keyboard Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II
Software W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC
Benchmark Scores Over 9000
one bad thing about magic arena, is that if you do a sealed deck tournament, cost of entry is 2000 gems, but even if you end up as champion, max you can win is 2200 gems, so 200 gems win for the champion, sure the few packs are nice, but packs are easy to get for 100 gold, its not really worth even doing sealed tournaments, the winnings are just junk, they need to increase it to 2600 gems or 3000 for first place winner, or leave it at 2200 gems but make it like 10 packs instead of 3. i just have no desire to do a tournament, its so hard to win, but even if you do i mean who cares. lol

View attachment 371785
All balanced out to make you splurge on gems, duh :)
 
Joined
Mar 27, 2009
Messages
134 (0.02/day)
Location
Pittsfield, Massachusetts
System Name Gaming rig
Processor Intel i7 7700K at 4.4GHZ
Motherboard Asrock Z270M-ITX/AC
Cooling Cryorig H7
Memory Crappy 16GB memory
Video Card(s) Zotac 3060ti undervolted at .850mv
Storage WD m2 Sata SSD + WD 10TB HD
Display(s) 27 inch LG 1440p 144hz + 27 inch Lenovo Thinkvision 1440p 60hz
Case Thermaltake Versa H18
Audio Device(s) Klipsch Promedia 2.1 speakers
Power Supply EVGA 600W
Mouse Coolermaster MM711
Keyboard Steelseries Merc Stealth
Joined
Sep 17, 2014
Messages
22,452 (6.03/day)
Location
The Washing Machine
Processor 7800X3D
Motherboard MSI MAG Mortar b650m wifi
Cooling Thermalright Peerless Assassin
Memory 32GB Corsair Vengeance 30CL6000
Video Card(s) ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming
Storage Lexar NM790 4TB + Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial BX100 250GB
Display(s) Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440)
Case Lian Li A3 mATX White
Audio Device(s) Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1
Power Supply EVGA Supernova G2 750W
Mouse Steelseries Aerox 5
Keyboard Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II
Software W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC
Benchmark Scores Over 9000
Hmm, I'll get them pulled out and get pictures of them.

I have 0 idea of what cards I have.

I'm thinking these are from mid to late 1990's though. Seems like that's when I grabbed these.

LOL, I don't even know why I've kept them for so many years. :p
Maybe foresight? :laugh:
Them old cards are serious money, well, some of them. There's a lot of crap, too. But even a lot of cards for 1 dollar will add up nicely. The state they're in, is also a big thing, as with most collector's items.

For the US I'm not sure what the best sites are, but cardkingdom seems solid.
For the EU its most certainly www.cardmarket.com
Fantastic place to sell, great customer service.
 

Space Lynx

Astronaut
Joined
Oct 17, 2014
Messages
17,262 (4.67/day)
Location
Kepler-186f
Processor 7800X3D -25 all core ($196)
Motherboard B650 Steel Legend ($179)
Cooling Frost Commander 140 ($42)
Memory 32gb ddr5 (2x16) cl 30 6000 ($80)
Video Card(s) Merc 310 7900 XT @3100 core $(705)
Display(s) Agon 27" QD-OLED Glossy 240hz 1440p ($399)
Case NZXT H710 (Red/Black) ($60)
Magic Arena used to give out a free draft token every 3-5 months, but they haven't done so in a long long time, 6+ months now I think. Really annoying. I was doing a great job of using that to win, and then stack my gems and gold until each new expansion. I guess they caught on to my game. :roll:

I did a decent draft with Foundations launch recently though, won 1800 gems with a free draft token I had still in my stockpile.
 
Joined
Aug 4, 2020
Messages
1,614 (1.02/day)
Location
::1
oooo i seem to have missed a few posts

anyways, cards from 93/34 are worth serious cash these days (sans fallen empires & revised, they printed like half a billion of these guys each - except for revised duals, which are reserved for some fucking reason), even unlimited cards are commanding an unreasonable premium nowadays (back then, only plebs would use white-bordered, but i digress)

everything from 95 to 99 has value only if it's on the reservedlist basically, otherwise its kinda nula - from masques onwards nothing's reserved, so there are precious few cards that are of any value left from that era; and most that were once valuable have now been reprinted into the ground, essentially
 
Top