Windows 11 24H2 is driving people to Linux

[kapone32]

If you know me you know I have already spoken on WIn 11 since the latest update. Well you have not heard anything yet.


1. Sleep is totally broken for me. I actually changed the Power plan in Windows to never go to sleep and yet my screen still freezes. How the hell can that be happening.
2. AMD software keeps resetting. I have to regularly reset my fan profile
3. Playing City Skylines 2, first thing that happened was my save was corrupted that I had to start a new one
4. Gamepass once again wants me to re-download Forza 7 a Game that I own
5. They have gone to a full subscription model. I have said this before I have 2 hotmail accounts and MS wanted me to a minimum of $3 a month to maintain the 2nd box.

For the past week I have been reading up on Linux distros. I like the potential of Bazzite.

 

[_roman_]

I do not think so.

In my case it was more like being able to print and write a document or having no computer at all.

2) If you are talking about AMD hardware. My Ryzen 7600X / Radeon 7800XT - before RAdeon 6800 non xt - before Radeon 6600XT are not well supported. I had half a year ago another topic in a linux section somewhere else. There is barely any support.

Just by chance I checked that a few days ago
That stuff does not compile on my gentoo box. Gentoo has all the toolchain stuff

GitHub - ilya-zlobintsev/LACT: Linux GPU Configuration Tool

Linux GPU Configuration Tool. Contribute to ilya-zlobintsev/LACT development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

Please check the fan section and athe other stuff.
Nothing works.

I tried several different pieces of software. It's impossible to set the fans for my graphic card to 30 percent. Stupid zero fan mode.

Nvidia had also issues in windows and gnu linux with a Nivida 960 GTX 4GB (which was in the current drivers) early 2023.

For desktop usage mostly any 100€ computer does the job.

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I grew up with the shell. Most people are most likely unable to crasp the shell and all the stuff in the background.
in windows terms -> cmd.exe

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1) power management another thing which is not easy to setup

5) Windows 11 24h2 pro here just for gaming with a local user account

 

[dgianstefani]

Might be an AMD software issue or a problem with using launchers other than Steam.

I have no problems.

 

[Bill_Bright]

Of the 5 items you listed, none conclusively point to Windows 11 24H2 as the cause. I too have no problems.

So perhaps to be more accurate, you should say it is driving you to Linux - though again, I don't believe you are accurately identifying the problem.

And by the way, if something uses a "full" subscription model, you would not be getting the first email box for free - notwithstanding the fact Hotmail is no longer (though hotmail.com addresses still work - for now).

FTR - people have been leaving Windows for Linux for years. On the other hand, many Linux users have gone back to Windows too.

 

[80-watt Hamster]

Of the 5 items you listed, none conclusively point to Windows 11 24H2 as the cause. I too have no problems.

So perhaps to be more accurate, you should say it is driving you to Linux - though again, I don't believe you are accurately identifying the problem.

And by the way, if something uses a "full" subscription model, you would not be getting the first email box for free - notwithstanding the fact Hotmail is no longer (though hotmail.com addresses still work - for now).

FTR - people have been leaving Windows for Linux for years. On the other hand, many Linux users have gone back to Windows too.

It's not just them (though it's almost certainly far less than we fed-up-with-Microsoft types would like to think): It's looking more and more likely that I'll make good on my "threat" of going (back) to Linux upon EoS for W10, though not for the same reasons as the OP. For me, it's the continuing enshittification of the UX. Yes, most if not all of it can be got around with 3rd-party tools, registry hacks and custom installs, but MS is marching toward a future where you cannot run Windows without logging in via MS account, which I reject on principle. (Just don't ask me about my phone. )

 

[Event Horizon]

I have successfully switched over two of my machines so far due to the upcoming Win 10 EOL. One has an Nvidia GPU, the other an Intel iGPU. I'm not going to throw away perfectly functional hardware or cling on with tweaks and hacks.

 

[kapone32]

Of the 5 items you listed, none conclusively point to Windows 11 24H2 as the cause. I too have no problems.

So perhaps to be more accurate, you should say it is driving you to Linux - though again, I don't believe you are accurately identifying the problem.

And by the way, if something uses a "full" subscription model, you would not be getting the first email box for free - notwithstanding the fact Hotmail is no longer (though hotmail.com addresses still work - for now).

FTR - people have been leaving Windows for Linux for years. On the other hand, many Linux users have gone back to Windows too.

I literally used to have zero issues until the latest update. I have already reset Windows once without any backup to avoid the problems and it came right back. It has killed my Kingston Mouse and the only reason I feel my new mouse does not exhibit the same behaviour is that it is the same brand as my MB. I have also rolled back my GPU drivers to see the same behaviour.

 

[outpt]

tried to update to W11 24H2 from W11 23H2 and would not install because of the 2 WD SN770 2TB SSD. So I was rolled back to W11 23H2 until they can figure some thing out.
As for as going to Linux, I don't know about that. I have set the machine to dual boot so I could play with Linux. eh! Not that burned up at M$ yet.

 

[Bill_Bright]

I literally used to have zero issues until the latest update. I have already reset Windows once without any backup to avoid the problems and it came right back. It has killed my Kingston Mouse and the only reason I feel my new mouse does not exhibit the same behaviour is that it is the same brand as my MB. I have also rolled back my GPU drivers to see the same behaviour.

And I am sorry you are having issues. But millions and millions of folks are not therefore it is hard to put the blame on Microsoft when there are so many not having problems and when there are so many other variables, beyond Microsoft's control, at play here.

It is critical to note that essentially every single one of the 1.6 billion Windows computers out there became a unique system within the first couple minutes it was booted up for the very first time. This happened as each us users set up our own hardware configurations, network configuration, personalizations, security, installed software and so much more. As much as we would like Microsoft to test each one of those 1.6 billion unique configurations, it is totally unreasonable and unrealistic to expect they could.

Can MS do better? Absolutely!!! But frankly, I am amazed there are not a lot more people complaining about problems. But the true facts are, for the vast majority of users, these updates are installing just fine. And we need to remember that.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

No issues on w11 24h2 here on my 2 primary computers both running AMD cpu/Nvidia gpus. My laptop has also been great also Nvidia GPU though......

I do have a 7600/6700XT based pc but it's hardly used but no issues afaik. It's mainly for trouble shooting purposes for the all AMD systems I put together which are pretty rare...

It's actually made me like W11 not just tolerate it like I did with 23H2 and prior.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Might be an AMD software issue or a problem with using launchers other than Steam.

I have no problems.

If Adrenalin keeps reporting "unexpected system failure", then it's on AMD, TMK. BTW, I never had that issue with 23H2, back in February, 2024, despite posts claiming 23H2 requires disabling CoPilot, which is false, at least if you updated Adrenalin to the latest version. I first saw such report for 23H2, which is the first to have CoPilot.

 

[Psychoholic]

24H2 has been 100% flawless for me.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

24H2 has been 100% flawless for me.

Actually, it had problems that wouldn't be solved, until at least the November patch-Tuesday. But, since I'm on the RP channel on my first system to get 24H2, I can't test the patch-Tuesday for the non-RP.

RP had the fix sooner.

 

[Space Lynx]

I use 24H2 for work and mmo's, no issues. I still spend most of my time in Linux Mint Cinnamon, and I love how simple and clean it is/feels. I am a very basic user though, so eh

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Are you using Adrenalin 24.10.1?

 

[phanbuey]

ugh i would love to move to linux full time but I just don't have that kind of time or energy. It shall stay as a vm when I need to code / run something.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I'm not actually going to read your post because of how completely stupid your title is.

It should be changed to 24H2 and my hardware/software choice is driving me to Linux.

I'm sure there are plenty of people who legitimately have issues but when there are thousands maybe millions of different hardware configurations it's to be somewhat expected.

 

[phanbuey]

It should be changed to 24H2 and my hardware/software choice is driving me to Linux.

I'm sure there are plenty of people who legitimately have issues but when there are thousands maybe millions of different hardware configurations it's to be somewhat expected.

The misconception is that linux has fewer issues. It absolutely does not.

I just instlled a fresh ubuntu box, within 10 minutes ran into 2 annoying bugs: the VS code window is unable to be resized unless you log out and log back in again (open wayland bug). And clicking on external mounts in folders app won't ask for su password and just throw a permission denied -- but if you click on "Other Locations" and then click on mount, then it works fine.

I've wasted so many hours doing the simplest stuff in linux. I think I lost a week of my life in college trying to get my printer and scanner combo to work.

That being said, the bash shell, and cloud orchestration in linux is so good -- it's easier to deploy stuff in linux for me -- windows docker agent, powershell, aws-cli, vscode and git is all second rate compared to the linux varieties.

 

[kilo]

I switched to Linux when the cospylot recall nonsense started, which goes hand in hand with 24h2. MS's failure to read the room was the final straw. Been happily using linux for several months and I couldn't be happier. It kind of feels like back in the early days (for me, Windows XP) of learning a new system, searching for new applications and modifications. It's fun and intriguing. I can customize basically anything including keyboard shortcuts. I'm not quite the power user I was on Windows, yet, but as GI Joe says, "Now you know linux. And knowing is half the battle," or something.

 

[wolf]

Windows 11 24H2 is driving people to Linux​

I mean, is it though? Been using it on a work and home laptop for over a year and am about to move to it with a fresh install for a 9800X3D build.

I am anticipating with near-certainty that it will not drive me to Linux.

 

[Marcus L]

It drove me back to Win10 but am close to moving to Linus full time TBH and f**king MS completely, have used in the past and most of my games will just work now with Wine/Proton/Steam OS etc there's little reason to stay on this MS gravy train that they seem determined to fk up time and time again

I mean, is it though? Been using it on a work and home laptop for over a year and am about to move to it with a fresh install for a 9800X3D build.

I am anticipating with near-certainty that it will not drive me to Linux.

The update that was released a few weeks ago you have been on for over a year, even before insiders, that's some good BS right there, do you just mean W11 as a whole? 24H2 is a different beast

 

[kapone32]

I mean, is it though? Been using it on a work and home laptop for over a year and am about to move to it with a fresh install for a 9800X3D build.

I am anticipating with near-certainty that it will not drive me to Linux.

I know what you mean I too have been on Windows 11 for over a year. The telemetry added in the latest update could be the cause of the problem. We will see how many more blank screen posts we get in the coming weeks.

 

[Launcestonian]

Vanilla 11 Pro with 24H2 working well here on a rig that just games & tests OC's & benchmarks. All AMD hardware too if that means anything.
The only alteration I have done is disable core parking as much as possible for my 9900X via cmd prompt.

 

[Shou Miko]

I would like to go full Linux but I do play EA titles games from time to time and for now they ain't available on Linux and performance still ain't the same or better on Linux always.

I dropped the pro version of 24H2 and I went LTSC on my gaming rig and IoT LTSC on my laptop.

IoT LTSC do not run great on my gaming it the sound pops and lacks but normal LTSC works like a claim.

I am planning on putting LTSC on ThinkCentre M720q in the future when I have the time and change away from Plex to properly Jellyfin.

 

[Onasi]

If Linux got a massive influx of users every time I saw the “X Windows version/update is driving people off to Linux” it would already be the second most popular desktop OS, hands down. Surprisingly (not), it doesn’t actually happen. Most people don’t even tweak anything about their Windows installs and definitely aren’t using LTSC editions. And yet they are content.