Nvidia's GPU market share hits 90% in Q4 2024 (gets closer to full monopoly)

[Scattergrunt]

These threads sometimes feel more like boardroom debates between invested stakeholders from competing companies, rather than genuine consumer discussions/concerns/feedback.

This right here is exactly why I do not like brand loyalty. And ironically, you might not be wrong in some cases.

Thankfully, brand loyalty is just a vocal minority (in my opinion) so its nothing super concerning. At least I dont feel like I'm crazy.

 

[Deleted member 234478]

If AMD's stupid pricing tactics continues, it will be forced to exit the market, altogether. It has been said for a while now!

what stupid pricing?

if amd really delivered better in RT and productivity like in davinci resolve, Id definitely give it a go. also used amd gpu are far higher than nvidia. not good for nvidia but good for me. and drivers. I downloaded the last driver for a 1070 I bought for a 1709 w10 build no issue.

the reason I got the 1070 was the rx590 i have would just freeze in games, then id get some prompt nonsense saying my gpu didnt have a driver. installed 1070, no issues. when I had the rx590, I had to try like 12 different drivers to download to try. kept saying "os not supported" with nvidia its super easy. I hate leather boy, but supporting amd and then suffering isnt an option.

and I love AMD, just got my new 5950x yesterday. but gpu, they arent impressing. maybe intel come bring something worthy.

 

[AcE]

if amd really delivered better in RT and productivity like in davinci resolve,

They work on both these issues, gen after the next one.

the reason I got the 1070 was the rx590 i have would just freeze in games, then id get some prompt nonsense saying my gpu didnt have a driver. installed 1070, no issues. when I had the rx590, I had to try like 12 different drivers to download to try. kept saying "os not supported" with nvidia its super easy. I hate leather boy, but supporting amd and then suffering isnt an option.

This is just anecdotal stuff which doesn't prove anything and can happen with any sort of hardware that exists. Sounds also like your GPU was simply broken, imagine, stuff breaks, it's not a software issue.

 

[Deleted member 234478]

in davinci resolve 6900xt is just a tab better then 2080ti. thats pathetic. Im not a RT guy. I dont have a card that uses that tech anyway and with all that I have seen, dont care for it

They work on both these issues, gen after the next one.


This is just anecdotal stuff which doesn't prove anything and can happen with any sort of hardware that exists. Sounds also like your GPU was simply broken, imagine, stuff breaks, it's not a software issue.

in davinci resolve 6900xt is just a tab better then 2080ti. thats pathetic

weird, I never had a single driver issue with any nvidia card over 20 years. but the first amd card, and issues. the stigma of why people dont go amd gpu is till to this day following them. just the fact that I had to download and try 12 different drivers to get it to install says so much. I was about to pull the trigger for a 6700xt about 6 months ago. glad I did my research. togh love to amd. wake up. intel is in the market too.

look at nikon (the brand I use). they feel asleep. lukewarm products with mistakes. sony walked right by. now theyre in a VER far 3rd place.

hoping for amd 80 series brings the goods. RT and productivity. for gaming they do ok. I guess nvidia milks people for little vram and amd gives tons but lacks in other things

 

[AcE]

in davinci resolve 6900xt is just a tab better then 2080ti. thats pathetic

Hardly, 2080 Ti is a more expensive GPU than 6900 XT from the prior generation, you’re just wildly exaggerating and edgy.

just the fact that I had to download and try 12 different drivers to get it to install says so much.

Sounds like your system was broken, user issue. Also the first time I read something like that, sorry, can only mean it’s a “you” issue.

togh love to amd. wake up. intel is in the market too.

You sound more and more just like someone who wants to bait replies by being provocative. I think your posts have low relevance at best. Yea 0% market share Intel with their lower mid range gpus are coming bois! Dangerous! They gonna compete with stuff of Nvidia/AMD which is soon 3 gens old! Amazing! Be aware of the blue wave!

 

[Deleted member 234478]

Hardly, 2080 Ti is a more expensive GPU than 6900 XT from the prior generation, you’re just wildly exaggerating and edgy.

Sounds like your system was broken, user issue. Also the first time I read something like that, sorry, can only mean it’s a “you” issue.

You sound more and more just like someone who wants to bait replies by being provocative. I think your posts have low relevance at best.

hahaha sure. you can have the last word. bottom line is amd is losing share with gpu. so deny deflect..whatever is good for you.

 

[Recus]

I actually will be very proud if nvidia announces

RTX 5090 - 1999$
RTX 5080 - 1199$
RTX 5070Ti - 899$
RTX 5070 - 699$
RTX 5060Ti - 529$
RTX 5060 - 379$

As long as AMD and intel is competitive in pricing.

RX 8800 XT - 499$
RX 8700 XT - 419$
RX 8600 XT - 299$
RX 8600 - 239$

That would be great IQ test for those idiots. AKA "reality check"

Personally i owned nvidia for 14.5 years and AMD for 2.5 years since early 2007 and i exactly know what about i'm talking about.

In my personal experience i highly disagree with you but that's maybe only me. I used RX 6600 XT, RX 6700 XT for short period of time and RX 5700 XT, RX 6800, RX 7900 XT, RX 7800 XT for decent amount of time. Drivers wise no issues there!

Instead of buying one RTX 5090 you bought 6 AMD cards worth $3200 (counting MSRP).

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[AcE]

hahaha sure. you can have the last word. bottom line is amd is losing share with gpu. so deny deflect..whatever is good for you.

And here we can see that your whole reason to post here is to attack AMD users, at this moment you think I’m one of them, that’s why you think this is personal to me, while I don’t even use / own a Radeon gpu at the moment. Talking about last words while insta replying and having always the last word also makes you look quite ironic. Doesn’t change the fact your posts have zero to none merit, the way you talk and the way you exaggerate makes you look quite childish.

other guy was right, Nvidia users here are quite toxic usually and always start the hate and then later pretend as if they’re innocent. Quite ironic. I mean on one hand they should be happy, where is the insecurity stemming from to have the need to “punch down”? It’s just sad behavior tbh.

 

[AusWolf]

Marketshare is calculated as a percentage of sales in a given period.

It literally is one of the best indicators of success. Revenue and total share of market revenue are critical to any business.

That means that no one who sells hamburgers will ever be successful because McDonalds exists.

No, success is measured in profit (which unfortunately, isn't one of the greatest forte of the Radeon brand, either). Market share has nothing to do with it.

 

[Zach_01]

Keep it civil please.
Avoid personal attacks or I can see the (locked) future of this thread not far ahead

 

[AcE]

Instead of buying one RTX 5090 you bought 6 AMD cards worth $3200 (counting MSRP).

1 GPU doesn’t replace 6. Buying a GPU for over 2000 is just luxury. In other words, it does not have the same usefulness.

 

[Krit]

Instead of buying one RTX 5090 you bought 6 AMD cards worth $3200 (counting MSRP).

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In my main personal pc i had RX 5700 XT, RX 6800, RX 7900 XT, RX 7800 XT. But in second mining boom when i was selling used PCs i had RX 6600 XT, RX 6700 XT and lots of RX 570/580 sometimes even older Fury, Vega and R9 series GPUs for short period of time..... And way way more nvidia GPUs in both sides.

I was never fan of Titan Class GPUs and never will be. Historically speaking i like **70 series (this does not apply to rtx 40 series because it's nothing like a regular **70 Series GPU) and also i like RX 7800 XT tier.....

 

[Vya Domus]

Remember Radeon HD 4870 against GTX 480.

Do you ? These cards were 2 years apart, what are you even talking about.

I love people blaming AMD for the pricing increase

Of course they do, what they're really pissed off about is having to pay one gorillion dollars for an Nvidia card but at the same time they can't complain about their favorite corporation fleecing them so what we're left with is "uhm, actually AMD did this". The classic, "I wish AMD was more competitive so I can buy Nvidia anyway".

 

[Hecate91]

I wasn't specifically referring to anyone here. Discussion here has been mostly civil, from what I can tell, besides some flamey comment which happen with this kind of discussion, which is pretty normal. (EDIT: In hindsight, this is pretty funny for me to say considering the next page..)

Wasn't my intention to imply as such either, I'll edit my post to make that clearer. It would be hypocritical for me be against brand loyalty and then come off as if I'm loyal to X company anyway.

I misunderstood your post then, sorry.
The flamebait comments is what I'm getting tired of, those sort of comments from nvidia users seems like brand loyalty to me. Or people saying things like AMD cards have to be "cool" in order for anyone to consider one, or so many anecdotal claims of drivers being bad. I don't care what brand is "cool" or not, I buy what brand fits my budget and what I want from a GPU, pricing, VRAM and raw performance for the price are important to me. Nvidia hasn't cared about the mid range market in years so I decided to switch, drivers haven't been an issue for me.

That means that no one who sells hamburgers will ever be successful because McDonalds exists.

No, success is measured in profit (which unfortunately, isn't one of the greatest forte of the Radeon brand, either). Market share has nothing to do with it.

It can be both profit and marketshare, AMD could sell their cards at half the price of Nvidia yet they would still lose on profit and marketshare.

 

[AcE]

Of course they do, what they're really pissed off about is having to pay one gorillion dollars for an Nvidia card but at the same time they can't complain about their favorite corporation fleecing them. The classic, "I wish AMD was more competitive so I can buy Nvidia anyway".

The ironic thing is that it’s still a relatively cheap hobby compared to something like model trains or cars and a lot of other things. It used to be way worse, back then gpus were outdated quite quickly, and you had to buy new stuff every 1-2 years because of new features in direct x, new things your GeForce 256 could not do anymore. The games would not even start anymore if your gpu was a bit older. It was like it was slowly becoming junk, whereas nowadays? You can still use a 1060, all games work besides Alan Wake 2, and that’s a mid range gpu from 2016 (!). If you’d told me in year 2000 that the situation would be like that now I would’ve celebrated it and said “wow that’s 10 times better than now”. Remember voodoo cards costing 500-1000$? Not even full cards just a 3D card that couldn’t do 2D on its own. That’s like 3000+ dollars in today’s money for a card that was very quickly outdated and obsolete. A 4090 costs less and isn’t outdated in 2 years. Just an example. PC hobby used to be way more brutal than it is now - but humans love to complain, don’t forget.

 

[A Computer Guy]

and I love AMD, just got my new 5950x yesterday. but gpu, they arent impressing. maybe intel come bring something worthy.

Congrats. 5950x is a great CPU. I found it pairs well with RX5000, RX5500XT, RX6400, RX6600XT, RX6700XT and 4060/4060Ti.

In my personal experience i highly disagree with you but that's maybe only me. I used RX 6600 XT, RX 6700 XT for short period of time and RX 5700 XT, RX 6800, RX 7900 XT, RX 7800 XT for decent amount of time. Drivers wise no issues there!

Most of my driver issues with AMD were around the 5000 series RDNA era when I got back into PC gaming. Once they got some major bugs fixed they've been pretty stable for me entering the 6000 series, the WHQL versions more specifically. When using the non-WHQL versions at one point Windows kept getting wonky and kept replacing drivers breaking AMD's Adrenalin Software Features so I only stick to the WHQL drivers and no longer have issues with that.

 

[eidairaman1]

Weren't monopolist companies deconstructed (I don't know how to say it) back then in US, so they cease to have monopolies and are multiple smaller companies instead? Well won't happen here, but it would help. Now we're stuck with this monopoly and really almost nobody cares. I bet 5090 will cost 2000$ if not more, 5080 again 1200+ - Nvidia doesn't care, there is no competition this time. People will complain and then go and buy it. Sad. Successor of 4070 Ti / 4070 / 4060 Ti will all still be stuck at high pricing, like currently. Even the 4060 is overpriced but people buy all these products.

AT&T was once regulated into separate companies (bell telephone system) until the gov gave them power to merge SBC with cingular to make AT&T, during Bell and SBC days they wrre great in reliability and customer service, after they became AT&T again they became utter shit.

I think anyone who thinks that they are somehow more morally correct by choosing a AMD or Intel card vs Nvidia because Nvidia has such a huge market-share should probably realize that at the end of the day its all business. Do support the hardware that you like and enjoy, but keep it reasonable. Search for answers as to *why* AMD hasn't gotten their market share, instead of name-calling (not implying anyone here has been doing such, to clarify.) So I'd definitely agree with you and Dr. Dro.

Me personally, I'm just here to see AMD or Intel succeed because competition is good. And while a 90% market-share is concerning to me, I don't necessarily see it as the end of the world (especially because I have reason to believe its temporary anyway.)


It happened with AT&T back in 1982, and was very infamous. But honestly the US Judicial system doing anything right in recent times is a rarity. You can look up more information on how they handled the situation with AT&T if you want if you see U.S. v. AT&T (1982). Nvidia in a hypothetical situation like this would more than likely probably not be as affected at AT&T was back then.

The issue is thread crapping going on in every amd gpu related thread.

 

[Dr. Dro]

The issue is thread crapping going on in every amd gpu related thread.

Where is this bespoke thread crapping because I do not see it?

I think anyone who thinks that they are somehow more morally correct by choosing a AMD or Intel card vs Nvidia because Nvidia has such a huge market-share should probably realize that at the end of the day its all business. Do support the hardware that you like and enjoy, but keep it reasonable. Search for answers as to *why* AMD hasn't gotten their market share, instead of name-calling (not implying anyone here has been doing such, to clarify.) So I'd definitely agree with you and Dr. Dro.

Me personally, I'm just here to see AMD or Intel succeed because competition is good. And while a 90% market-share is concerning to me, I don't necessarily see it as the end of the world (especially because I have reason to believe its temporary anyway.)


It happened with AT&T back in 1982, and was very infamous. But honestly the US Judicial system doing anything right in recent times is a rarity. You can look up more information on how they handled the situation with AT&T if you want if you see U.S. v. AT&T (1982). Nvidia in a hypothetical situation like this would more than likely probably not be as affected at AT&T was back then.

See, when I brought up my point of "AMD needs to make it cool to own a Radeon again", I wasn't even talking about the point @wolf brought up (and to be honest, I definitely see AMD fans' hooligan-like behavior driving people away); but rather of the marketing contention points. Nvidia knows how to sell a product to the extent that they have also gotten people to open up their wallets with a smile; an art that to the best of my knowledge only Apple has also mastered.

This right here is exactly why I do not like brand loyalty. And ironically, you might not be wrong in some cases.

Thankfully, brand loyalty is just a vocal minority (in my opinion) so its nothing super concerning. At least I dont feel like I'm crazy.

Make your words mine...

 

[evernessince]

That means that no one who sells hamburgers will ever be successful because McDonalds exists.

It should go without saying that expected marketshare in the GPU and fast food industries are entirely different.

It is expected and normal for fast food chains to have only a fraction of the marketshare. This is because there are many competitors, a broad range of tastes and preferences, the market is easy to enter thus enabling competition, and logistical / staffing / property challenges of the industry, etc. It's extremely hard for any fast food business to capture a significant portion of the market because that means having property in a significant number of locales around the entire world, retaining and training employees, organizing logistics, maintaining consistency, ect.

As a result, in the case of the fast food industry, expectations for marketshare are completely different than the GPU market. Your McDonalds example thus makes little sense because you are trying to treat the fast food industry like the GPU industry when the two could not be more different. It's a heck of a lot easier to ship GPUs around the world than it is to have fast food locations everywhere. Not even remotely comparable on so many fronts.

No, success is measured in profit (which unfortunately, isn't one of the greatest forte of the Radeon brand, either). Market share has nothing to do with it.

Easily disproven by Walmart and Amazon's rise to power. Both lost money during the years they were expanding marketshare and didn't start seeing profitability until much later. Despite that, investors didn't seem to have issues throwing money at them.

There are many ways to measure success, profit is one of them and so is marketshare. Some metrics are more important for certain markets than others. You can quibble over the details but you are dead wrong that profit is the only thing that matters. We haven't even thrown gross margin into the mix yet either.

Where is this bespoke thread crapping because I do not see it?

I mean, if you call them they shall come...

 

[Dr. Dro]

I mean, if you call them they shall come...

Hopefully anyone who has the intention of doing this will stay put. This has been a surprisingly pleasant thread given the subject being discussed

 

[wolf]

Do support the hardware that you like and enjoy, but keep it reasonable. Search for answers as to *why* AMD hasn't gotten their market share, instead of name-calling (not implying anyone here has been doing such, to clarify.) So I'd definitely agree with you and Dr. Dro.

I wasn't even talking about the point @wolf brought up (and to be honest, I definitely see AMD fans' hooligan-like behavior driving people away)

It's truly a shame, and perhaps more so than it even happening, that the people doing it don't seem to either realise or care that they're actively working against their own interests.

 

[freeagent]

AMD just has to change the divisions name back to ATi for an instant 20fps increase.

But what do I know :|

 

[wolf]

AMD just has to change the divisions name back to ATi for an instant 20fps increase.

But what do I know :|

I truly miss ATi, perhaps a company with a more singular focus had something to do with it too.

 

[Scattergrunt]

Make your words mine...

Don't necessarily understand what you mean by this (I'm a little dense sometimes.)

The issue is thread crapping going on in every amd gpu related thread.

More accurately, happens pretty often when Nvidia and AMD are mentioned in the same breath in these types of threads. Still though, besides a bit earlier, a modest thread all things considered. I haven't seen the worst of the worst though to be fair since im a newly born on this forum.

 

[freeagent]

I truly miss ATi

As a Canadian, I expected better.

Change the name back, focus, and bring back what was great