X299 Owners Club

[RootinTootinPootin]

Early batches (with the round Intel logo) only, and only if the E-cores are disabled and CPU is deliberately running an earlier microcode version that exposes AVX-512 support.

Later make 12th's with the square Intel logo + all 13th and 14th gen can't enable it since it's fused off at the core, this makes Skylake/Cascade Lake-X the only processor which has both the core count and AVX512 support. Tiger Lake and Rocket Lake support it, but they don't go >8 cores and don't have >2ch mem support.

I know, but this was due to the design of the P-Cores (on Alder) and not willfully the whole architecture itself, what I meant was "What if" Intel took AV512 implementation wholeheartedly.

as far as I know, it was a BUBU on the design of the P-Core since they lacked more time integrating AVX512 on the E-Cores and testing them out.

I haven't used TL (mobile) and as far as 11th Gen, I never tried that mess either (was planning to, since I saw a Apex Z590 being sold used locally, though 11th Gen chips are still OP)

 

[Dr. Dro]

I know, but this was due to the design of the P-Cores (on Alder) and not willfully the whole architecture itself, what I meant was "What if" Intel took AV512 implementation wholeheartedly.

as far as I know, it was a BUBU on the design of the P-Core since they lacked more time integrating AVX512 on the E-Cores and testing them out.

I haven't used TL (mobile) and as far as 11th Gen, I never tried that mess either (was planning to, since I saw a Apex Z590 being sold used locally, though 11th Gen chips are still OP)

I'm fairly sure the heterogeneous ISA validation thing was just an excuse, Linux could always handle it and Windows would with enough of a nudge. It's really just market segmentation reasons, Intel has always loved to segment and SKU spam.

 

[donmclarenson]

I got into PC building a few years ago and about a year ago started learning about the Skylake CPUs and their evolution. Started reading about x299 and checking out motherboards online. I ended up on ebay looking for a few weeks for the best deals I could find, and long story long, I ended up with a Rampage VI Apex and a 10980xe for a pretty good deal. I wouldn't say it was a steal, but it didn't bust my wallet up too bad either.
I haven't got it in a case yet, but it's working well for me at the moment. I have a 420 aio cooling it and at the moment a 3060 TI, but I've have a LC RX 6800 XT on there in the past, as well as some SLI experimentation with a pair of Titan XP's. Got some 4400 mt/s cl 16 ram on there (stable at 4000), 2TB SK Hynix Gold P31 Gen 3 SSD on the riser. EVGA P3 1000W PSU powering it. It's been fun.
I have a Lian Li v3000 Plus case I want to put something in, but my concern is that this rig is too old to take advantage of all the water cooling that case can offer. Thinking something newer should go in that one.

 

[C7TJFVB7-CAZ]

I just wonder if Intel have baked the AVX512 IS to alder lake and newer processors, they can really get rid of HT for that uplift

yeah idkCascade Lake hardly aged asside from the obvious Specs it being 14nm+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ^_^ and yeah use tons of watts (bo6 being 180-200) but man do they püla so smoothy ^^ idk that they do but dont be mistaken AVX 512 F emphasis on the F is just a bit of a fake and more of a lie then true 512 sadly
go install gameshaders on a ryzen adn then on an X299 chip you noticed the clocks drop a bit and it goes a LOT faster because of it, so dopey
probs to intel for having 14nm improvements where everyone else is chasing the NanoMeter trend which suckz PP

I got into PC building a few years ago and about a year ago started learning about the Skylake CPUs and their evolution. Started reading about x299 and checking out motherboards online. I ended up on ebay looking for a few weeks for the best deals I could find, and long story long, I ended up with a Rampage VI Apex and a 10980xe for a pretty good deal. I wouldn't say it was a steal, but it didn't bust my wallet up too bad either.
I haven't got it in a case yet, but it's working well for me at the moment. I have a 420 aio cooling it and at the moment a 3060 TI, but I've have a LC RX 6800 XT on there in the past, as well as some SLI experimentation with a pair of Titan XP's. Got some 4400 mt/s cl 16 ram on there (stable at 4000), 2TB SK Hynix Gold P31 Gen 3 SSD on the riser. EVGA P3 1000W PSU powering it. It's been fun.
I have a Lian Li v3000 Plus case I want to put something in, but my concern is that this rig is too old to take advantage of all the water cooling that case can offer. Thinking something newer should go in that one.

dope build but i would suggest a Gen 4 sssd for the improved IOPS and better random which are still within sata speeds but way better then gen 3 so its still noticable despite the only gen 3 and also better reaction time of the SSD, makes an X299 popp even more and pls make sure you have at least 64gb of RAM but 4 sticks to (VERY IMPORTAN) dont you dare to run this B with just 32 gigs that be shady, especially when u can have it running all week and have your most used stuff including some gamefiles cached and quick access then, especiall with the quadchannel
oh CRAP i just saw u only run 2 sticks and even next to each other this is SINGLE CHANNEL, deer lordy pls save that CPU from being disrespected xD

I know, but this was due to the design of the P-Cores (on Alder) and not willfully the whole architecture itself, what I meant was "What if" Intel took AV512 implementation wholeheartedly.

as far as I know, it was a BUBU on the design of the P-Core since they lacked more time integrating AVX512 on the E-Cores and testing them out.

I haven't used TL (mobile) and as far as 11th Gen, I never tried that mess either (was planning to, since I saw a Apex Z590 being sold used locally, though 11th Gen chips are still OP)

pls dont even consider them its jut 8 cores, hopefully you dont beleave that core count dosent matter, this would be very old news and was once true yeah but pls dont
just get a 10850K thatz almost a 10900k both got 10 classic cores witwout core to core latency issues cuz no chiplets just like X299 but a veryLITE version of it if that suits you otherwise :*

Thehe^^ a bit funny vid to watch and also to see whats important bout benchmarks (youre the most important part) cuz theres a lot more to a CPU rtthen just an FPS coutner but most ppl FPS is gospel when it actually NEVER in my 20yrs of doing this, maybe even more it was the case

 

[C7TJFVB7-CAZ]

Holy crap that's a lot of RAM.

thats how it should be i mean honestly ive had 256mb on XP in 2004 so having that amount in GIGABYTES 20 years later isnt as crazy as you think ;D

Just a little tweaking and I get this CPU-Z result

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Not that far away from Ryzen 5950.........

well bro heck thiz BADUMZ!! hehe still quiet nice but give him 125mhz on the BLOCK try it even if the benchmark wouldnt be realy better other then Single Core everythings like snappy as fucky t hats the saving of X299 when you wanna put a 40 seires in

Ohh yea already did that.....it's old rule from previous platform when you have 8 slots for memory usually it's better to add a bit V especially when you do memory/OC

hehe adding V? well if you tell that V him and Jonny might laugh because its retro hardware to them nah but seriously youre right it needs Voltage for sure but it can handle a bit and enouth for stuff to be gained from it :*

 

[Zyll Goliat]

thats how it should be i mean honestly ive had 256mb on XP in 2004 so having that amount in GIGABYTES 20 years later isnt as crazy as you think ;D


well bro heck thiz BADUMZ!! hehe still quiet nice but give him 125mhz on the BLOCK try it even if the benchmark wouldnt be realy better other then Single Core everythings like snappy as fucky t hats the saving of X299 when you wanna put a 40 seires in


hehe adding V? well if you tell that V him and Jonny might laugh because its retro hardware to them nah but seriously youre right it needs Voltage for sure but it can handle a bit and enouth for stuff to be gained from it :*

That's Great score for X299....what kind of cooling you have there and how high is you OC that CPU and is it stable on that speed for editing and some other heavy loads or is this just OC for CPU-z?

 

[C7TJFVB7-CAZ]

That's Great score for X299....what kind of cooling you have there and how high is you OC that CPU and is it stable on that speed for editing and some other heavy loads or is this just OC for CPU-z?

well an Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 360 with Formulamod Fans, cant tell exactly which one also they gone and wont produce them anymore and ive got the whole kit from a Firend soo cant talk bout that ^.^
BUT im running it on an MSI X299 Pro which is a Prosumer board but its killer cheatcode is theres a whole seperate Clockgen it seems on there like a menu for the Block between 100/125 and a staggering 166. something mhz baseclock^^ hooly cowy (o.o) you put that to 125mhz and its automatically sets everything like CPU Core Clock to 4125mhz insteam of 3.3 (provided you just cleared cmos or set the Bios to default
then it puts the Cache differently and also secrently in the background the PCIE BUS Speed is also 125 mhz obviously we are gone from it screwing arround with the motherboards IO or the SATA and THEN the XMP changed for me to 3000mhz instead of 3200 so if you got THAT, do it and hten manually set the values like 34 for 4750mhz because oyu otta calculate it in your head a bit to get there then in the CPU-Z you go to bench and then select AVX 512 and run that, there you go, but imma tell you how 4800mhz on the core can be much aslower and unsmoother then 4125mhz core clock, because of the 25mhz more on EVERYTHING, including chipset so BCLK is more important there and the Cache obviously then pretty much ANYTHING else, so go for a defaults on the bios for nwo and if you got a setting for BCLOCK that isnt just the CPU strap like on my Asus board then you can for sure see it changed the values to a safe set, boot that and you can see a huge gain in lower temps/powerdraw while being mostly just as fast as a normal overclock to much higher values and a bit more smoother for thoes odd times you need it

That's Great score for X299....what kind of cooling you have there and how high is you OC that CPU and is it stable on that speed for editing and some other heavy loads or is this just OC for CPU-z?

ps i was runnign daily dirsty machien, enver benchmark clean, pls dont, cuz then you see how it does while youre doing a lot of crap on ya machine, work gaming, copieng files all at once because thats what you do, not JUST benchmarking, otherwise i wouldnt be into PCs if theres just THAT to do on a Computer :* i just ran it hehe with bunch of tabs on multiple monitors on multiple browsers, a video editing program with alltho a bit more simple project but still and voicemeeter for my audio and yeah just ran CPU-Z and yep its rock stable as long as you give it enouth volts BUT
ive you just have a setting like i do on the bios for OC then do a quick safe of your curent own settings (like a profile or something
and then set it back to defaults, and go to that BCLK Setting, then if some values have changed, thats all you need to do, maybe ajust your FAN Curve bac kto where u want it to be, saf and reboot and test it out, im sure you notice a lil IPC gain if everyhtings cooly of about 25 friggin % you wont beleave your eves because normaly you canrt just casualy improve or just GET more Singlecore on a CPU without buying a newer Gen, but with thoes thigns you can, X299 can handle it, it at least draws 9 watts when its on the desktop and goes to i think like 15 ( for a CHIPSET picture that for a minute^.^) yeah it can do that for sure, if your particular Board/ CPU and RAM combo can, is something that the stars in the sky know

 

[Zyll Goliat]

well an Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 360 with Formulamod Fans, cant tell exactly which one also they gone and wont produce them anymore and ive got the whole kit from a Firend soo cant talk bout that ^.^
BUT im running it on an MSI X299 Pro which is a Prosumer board but its killer cheatcode is theres a whole seperate Clockgen it seems on there like a menu for the Block between 100/125 and a staggering 166. something mhz baseclock^^ hooly cowy (o.o) you put that to 125mhz and its automatically sets everything like CPU Core Clock to 4125mhz insteam of 3.3 (provided you just cleared cmos or set the Bios to default
then it puts the Cache differently and also secrently in the background the PCIE BUS Speed is also 125 mhz obviously we are gone from it screwing arround with the motherboards IO or the SATA and THEN the XMP changed for me to 3000mhz instead of 3200 so if you got THAT, do it and hten manually set the values like 34 for 4750mhz because oyu otta calculate it in your head a bit to get there then in the CPU-Z you go to bench and then select AVX 512 and run that, there you go, but imma tell you how 4800mhz on the core can be much aslower and unsmoother then 4125mhz core clock, because of the 25mhz more on EVERYTHING, including chipset so BCLK is more important there and the Cache obviously then pretty much ANYTHING else, so go for a defaults on the bios for nwo and if you got a setting for BCLOCK that isnt just the CPU strap like on my Asus board then you can for sure see it changed the values to a safe set, boot that and you can see a huge gain in lower temps/powerdraw while being mostly just as fast as a normal overclock to much higher values and a bit more smoother for thoes odd times you need it


ps i was runnign daily dirsty machien, enver benchmark clean, pls dont, cuz then you see how it does while youre doing a lot of crap on ya machine, work gaming, copieng files all at once because thats what you do, not JUST benchmarking, otherwise i wouldnt be into PCs if theres just THAT to do on a Computer :* i just ran it hehe with bunch of tabs on multiple monitors on multiple browsers, a video editing program with alltho a bit more simple project but still and voicemeeter for my audio and yeah just ran CPU-Z and yep its rock stable as long as you give it enouth volts BUT
ive you just have a setting like i do on the bios for OC then do a quick safe of your curent own settings (like a profile or something
and then set it back to defaults, and go to that BCLK Setting, then if some values have changed, thats all you need to do, maybe ajust your FAN Curve bac kto where u want it to be, saf and reboot and test it out, im sure you notice a lil IPC gain if everyhtings cooly of about 25 friggin % you wont beleave your eves because normaly you canrt just casualy improve or just GET more Singlecore on a CPU without buying a newer Gen, but with thoes thigns you can, X299 can handle it, it at least draws 9 watts when its on the desktop and goes to i think like 15 ( for a CHIPSET picture that for a minute^.^) yeah it can do that for sure, if your particular Board/ CPU and RAM combo can, is something that the stars in the sky know

Cool....Well I can't OC my 7940X that much as I don't have water cooling and honestly not sure if I want because after some point it will start to pull a lot of power so Instead I decide to OC my cores individually from 4,1Ghz al the way up to the 4,7Ghz with Voltages that goes from 1,101V up to the 1,218V as I was testing the heat,voltages and stability on each cores in benchmarks and find some optimal OC for my machine that I am happy about it also I have only ECC ram(2133Mhz) that I OC to work on 2400Mhz and tweak a bit timings so it's all good now for that amount of ram(192Gb)I believe that my AVX works on 4,1Ghz and machine on this clocks is 100% stable in games&editing and any heavy loads like Cinebench 24 and prime personally when I find OC that I am happy about it I usually do a OCCT test for 30 min and if Rig is stable that's it I am going to leave it there.....here you will find bellow some of my results in benchmarks feel free to post yours as I am curious to see how much better are your results....

P.S. Shadow of the Tomb Rider(SOTR) benchmark is done purposely on 1080p lowest gfx settings because like that is actually great way to test your CPU/Memory OC as your GPU will not interfere and bottleneck your CPU....

 

[C7TJFVB7-CAZ]

sorry for the half rage but its also voice of reason and you should be rescued out of old PC habbits and trouths so heres my response :*

Well well good for you man that you finetuned each core or tried toand also ramtimings
BUT all of it is hopeless once you fiddle with the baseclock, dont do ramtimings they are fine as you wont get a gamingbenefit and you wanna have 64gigs of slower RAM then 32 of faster ram, ppl arte spec brainwashed and i can sorta see it here, give it ALL the power it needs, my 10940x sucks back 220w peak in black ops 6, give it that, othwerwise you gonna HAVE to upgrade otherwise, the safing grafe of any X299 chip is infact hte power, get a liquid freezewr 3 360 or a alphacool eisbaer 360, otherwise youre gonna be dissapointwed,
Thoes chips meant to run hot and suck ower cuz they designed ofr it, doing all this individual timing crap and voltages on each cores wont ever get you that what you wanted to, but changing the base WILL dont test old stuff like SOTT because iots old and 1080p wont show anythign this is the right news for a 4770k, not fort a 7940x, ESPECIALLY in end of 2024, tombraider was a COMPLETELY differwent time, test new shit like BF, COD, Eldern Ring, Hogwards, etc, not 2018 games that wont you do any good and pls pls,use that machine as your daily driver not just gaming, thats wheree a CPU shines, not that benchmark crap asside from have you PLAYED it too? or just watched a pretty benchmark cuz that wont tell you how responsive or smooth the machine is vs to the actual gameplay bro
you still gotta learn a lot, good effort but absolutely wrong effort for the wrong hardware used
if youre usign outdated testmethods and outdated games then why you doing any of this for, a lets say 6700k/1080ti would play just as fine as your machine does cuz its desighned for lower core usage and higher res does mean less CPU bottleneck but loo at TODAYS games where its not the case anymore, my 10940 bottlenecks the 4080 in 1440p ultrawide highest settings in pretty much every game 4k not faar off but that again needs more cores too, its isnt 2015 anymore
pff Shadow of the tomb raider and 1080 with a damn 14 core and prolly a 3080 or so perhabs? hell no bro, sadly, LTT, Hrdware Unboxed, Gamers Nexus had too much influence on the people

Cool....Well I can't OC my 7940X that much as I don't have water cooling and honestly not sure if I want because after some point it will start to pull a lot of power so Instead I decide to OC my cores individually from 4,1Ghz al the way up to the 4,7Ghz with Voltages that goes from 1,101V up to the 1,218V as I was testing the heat,voltages and stability on each cores in benchmarks and find some optimal OC for my machine that I am happy about it also I have only ECC ram(2133Mhz) that I OC to work on 2400Mhz and tweak a bit timings so it's all good now for that amount of ram(192Gb)I believe that my AVX works on 4,1Ghz and machine on this clocks is 100% stable in games&editing and any heavy loads like Cinebench 24 and prime personally when I find OC that I am happy about it I usually do a OCCT test for 30 min and if Rig is stable that's it I am going to leave it there.....here you will find bellow some of my results in benchmarks feel free to post yours as I am curious to see how much better are your results....

P.S. Shadow of the Tomb Rider(SOTR) benchmark is done purposely on 1080p lowest gfx settings because like that is actually great way to test your CPU/Memory OC as your GPU will not interfere and bottleneck your CPU....

i gotta give you some nowledge ( again from Tech eals because hes way better in explainin then mer but hes damn right but then you understand what i mean :*
btw you got discord or some?
https://discord.gg/sQUp4w3u
my relaxy server mabe do a video bout it or some be cool

its older sure but thatz fine

 

[Zyll Goliat]

sorry for the half rage but its also voice of reason and you should be rescued out of old PC habbits and trouths so heres my response :*

Well well good for you man that you finetuned each core or tried toand also ramtimings
BUT all of it is hopeless once you fiddle with the baseclock, dont do ramtimings they are fine as you wont get a gamingbenefit and you wanna have 64gigs of slower RAM then 32 of faster ram, ppl arte spec brainwashed and i can sorta see it here, give it ALL the power it needs, my 10940x sucks back 220w peak in black ops 6, give it that, othwerwise you gonna HAVE to upgrade otherwise, the safing grafe of any X299 chip is infact hte power, get a liquid freezewr 3 360 or a alphacool eisbaer 360, otherwise youre gonna be dissapointwed,
Thoes chips meant to run hot and suck ower cuz they designed ofr it, doing all this individual timing crap and voltages on each cores wont ever get you that what you wanted to, but changing the base WILL dont test old stuff like SOTT because iots old and 1080p wont show anythign this is the right news for a 4770k, not fort a 7940x, ESPECIALLY in end of 2024, tombraider was a COMPLETELY differwent time, test new shit like BF, COD, Eldern Ring, Hogwards, etc, not 2018 games that wont you do any good and pls pls,use that machine as your daily driver not just gaming, thats wheree a CPU shines, not that benchmark crap asside from have you PLAYED it too? or just watched a pretty benchmark cuz that wont tell you how responsive or smooth the machine is vs to the actual gameplay bro
you still gotta learn a lot, good effort but absolutely wrong effort for the wrong hardware used
if youre usign outdated testmethods and outdated games then why you doing any of this for, a lets say 6700k/1080ti would play just as fine as your machine does cuz its desighned for lower core usage and higher res does mean less CPU bottleneck but loo at TODAYS games where its not the case anymore, my 10940 bottlenecks the 4080 in 1440p ultrawide highest settings in pretty much every game 4k not faar off but that again needs more cores too, its isnt 2015 anymore
pff Shadow of the tomb raider and 1080 with a damn 14 core and prolly a 3080 or so perhabs? hell no bro, sadly, LTT, Hrdware Unboxed, Gamers Nexus had too much influence on the people


i gotta give you some nowledge ( again from Tech eals because hes way better in explainin then mer but hes damn right but then you understand what i mean :*
btw you got discord or some?
https://discord.gg/sQUp4w3u
my relaxy server mabe do a video bout it or some be cool

its older sure but thatz fine

Ok so you don't have any valid results from any heavy loads like Cinebench R24 or even a light benchmarks like R23,passmark,geekbench how come is this mean your machine is not stable to perform heavy loads like that?
Honestly most of the games even today will still prefer few higher clocks cores and you can have good performance in many games but stability vise it means nothing until you have some really heavy load on your CPU and RAM you will not know if is your OC stable for 24/7 work... And yeah I am playing new games of course atm new indiana jones is good fun but SOTR until these days still have one of the better benchmarks it's solid test for GPU and it's even better test for memory and CPU especially on lower res like 1080p with low gfx settings......

 

[C7TJFVB7-CAZ]

im having it running for multitasking, gaming and davini resolve, if i do a benchmark like prime or so it will pretty muh trurn off right imidiately because of temps gfo to 105C so yeeahh but never does and it runs 24/ my guy, i dont test cinebench and all that for what? to look at numbers rather then using the machine for productive/fun work, benchmarks arent any fun, nothing comes out of it because you never see powerdraw and temps in your daily liufe like in benchmarks it isnt something im concerned about, this machine runs even 24/31 and thats more important, not just benchmarks what you do with your computer all the time, just benchmarking?
btw i havent being in the benchmark game since flippin idk 2015 or something because it was for nothing mostly becasue its a machine for me, not for others so it still wouldnt tell you anything realy, and besides the, most games use higher IPC then core count is quiet silly , YES sure they do, but so does a 4790k play GTAV for evample, it wont give you anything worth while if you trow a 5800X3D in for example, OR a 7940X it dosent matter,,
but for The First Descendant it WILL and a 4790k cant do shit in 4k at high refresh no matter which GPU,

just turn off all but like lets say 4 cores on your 7940, then youre freaking out because you cant do much anymore without the CPU being tasked to capacity, most NEW games of course, we are not talking about old games here will run better on a more core chip even if the FPS is the same and you dont seem to get it :/
ive had an R7 5700G before the 10940X, despite it being lower IPC it destroys the 5700G in every possible scenario, even if i caped at lower FPS
FPS is just the cherry ontop, and loadingtimes, framepacing (which you might not even heard of until now) and input lag makes a game far more popp then the framerate
A CPU isnt just as easy to just benchmark and come to a conclusion, it is the Central Processing Unit for a reason and much more complicated then you think or a GPU thats why im for the MORE CORES and MORE RAM area because im right and i dont need to prove anything, just prove it toyourself withoput running stupid old 2018 or so game because back THEN yes you where right that games cared a lot more about IPC and higher Rez resulted in aa less CPU bottleneck, you havent even got a 40 series yet so what do you know?
7820X my old CPU before the 10940x, well the 10940x pissed on the 7820x despite it being ,,almost the same´´ and if so then the most differentiating factor would the only the cores, what else is there then? right, not much, im not talking about a 1700X being better then a 5600X or so but outside of benchmarking theres so much more then Charts and what points you get in a benchmark
Dont you also notice anything like how the pc FEELS after your overclocked it and stuff? cuz if youre right into a benchmark to see if its any faster then you wasted your time thats how overclocking works or should work
you rather see the difference imidiately witin windows and not just games and also in gaming or your a bit dumb chasing numbers outside of live broadcastign world record LN2 stuff which is indeed very different

Ok so you don't have any valid results from any heavy loads like Cinebench R24 or even a light benchmarks like R23,passmark,geekbench how come is this mean your machine is not stable to perform heavy loads like that?
Honestly most of the games even today will still prefer few higher clocks cores and you can have good performance in many games but stability vise it means nothing until you have some really heavy load on your CPU and RAM you will not know if is your OC stable for 24/7 work... And yeah I am playing new games of course atm new indiana jones is good fun but SOTR until these days still have one of the better benchmarks it's solid test for GPU and it's even better test for memory and CPU especially on lower res like 1080p with low gfx settings......

if youre playing 1080p anything to do with 1080p on a 6900xt you should be infact get slapped HARD, especially with a 7940X omg what happend now?? 180 degree turn??? i gthought this is where ppl not being silly or am i just being pranked? that card is 1440p anything, not 1080p, you could do this on the 6600XT for god sake, will be much lower FPS but still playable in a rather slow game like SOTR its not gonna matter if youre gottn 60-90- or 120 fops for example, if the games not smooth because its just a 4 core R5 2600G for example then yeah, nothing you can do there, so better have the high core count then bitching bout it oke?

R24

yeah newest crasiest stuff, and if lets say ive get a lower score? does it then mena its crap or what is this no, im just using it and if it crashes i know its on me, sometimes the benchy goes trough but then after 3 days one crome tab too much or loaded up too fast, then theres a crash, do you see where we going with this? if you dont beleave that my srystems stable because ive got 256gb of RAM for a reason sincei m editing musicvids and tech youtuber vid in germany so if my systems crashin g it will have consequences unlike your machine soo yeahh PP

7940x is an amacing and underated CPU most of which only dream to do 50 things at the same time you know why they close there stuff before launching a game? because the pc would run like CRAP
and besides that you have got a 14 core one CCX if you will unlike ryzen which is a latency delay and give you a 1% low frametime hitch which is not good and we both know that so appreciate what you got
you didnt even test out the stuff i said out too so you are not diussmantling my point either and we are not going anywhere by blaming me for not providing benchmark results, im gettn sleepy at doing so too
its tiresome to just to look at a machine doing stuff for you and you wont need to do anything where u then becasue of that WONT feel how the machine reacts to you because you hands on the mouse and keyboard are missing. i dont want you to be mad but just understand me, thats all im asking you have such a dope PC i mena 14 core, 6900Xt which is between a 3080/3080TI and youre doign 1080p benchmarks on a 2018 game in basically 2025? that isnt what this is about because i give you a lil secreat, it wil lstill do 200+ FPS in SOTR at 1080p which is btw really good im not saying its crap it will do it in 20 years still but will it do it in the new games? nope, its always about the new games, testing old game test it on an i7 2600k then there u see wow its not that far off from new XYZ CPU in the FPS but it will feel sluggish and will have hitches

just oticed youre the one with the 192gigs how cooly is it puttn the feet up the table and just NOT care, at all?
i know the feeling and its great, no benchmark can show you that its like talking about the feeling of a drug without actually taking it

yep thats how tech works hehe ^^ and you with a 7940X/192gb/rx 6900xt will sorta tell me otherwise i mean loooolzzahh^^
youre the guy who should be saying, YES more cores more ram more poweeeerr" but no, your testing a 2018 game and conclude everything is that way, im gladly giving you an i7 7700k and tell me its a nice plesant experience in indiana jones, not even in 4k, it would be horrific and useless
it would launch and display frames but so would an i7 2600k in a lot of instances but wou would be screaming in pain as a gamer playing it on it and thats not visible on a benchy after a while
despite the 7700k acutally having higher coreclock and IPC then a 7940x not sdo with my 10940x but so be it, i would take a 7940x to play games any day of the week then a 7700k , evenfor games that released today cuz they nicer on it, its like a thiker blanket rather then a thin one or room service vs making it your own you know? thats what your system is bro, dont let the benchmarks get in your way of enjoying your system

yep, agreed

 

[Zyll Goliat]

if youre playing 1080p anything to do with 1080p on a 6900xt you should be infact get slapped HARD, especially with a 7940X omg what happend now?? 180 degree turn??? i gthought this is where ppl not being silly or am i just being pranked? that card is 1440p anything, not 1080p, you could do this on the 6600XT for god sake, will be much lower FPS but still playable in a rather slow game like SOTR its not gonna matter if youre gottn 60-90- or 120 fops for example, if the games not smooth because its just a 4 core R5 2600G for example then yeah, nothing you can do there, so better have the high core count then bitching bout it oke?

yeah newest crasiest stuff, and if lets say ive get a lower score? does it then mena its crap or what is this no, im just using it and if it crashes i know its on me, sometimes the benchy goes trough but then after 3 days one crome tab too much or loaded up too fast, then theres a crash, do you see where we going with this? if you dont beleave that my srystems stable because ive got 256gb of RAM for a reason sincei m editing musicvids and tech youtuber vid in germany so if my systems crashin g it will have consequences unlike your machine soo yeahh PP

7940x is an amacing and underated CPU most of which only dream to do 50 things at the same time you know why they close there stuff before launching a game? because the pc would run like CRAP
and besides that you have got a 14 core one CCX if you will unlike ryzen which is a latency delay and give you a 1% low frametime hitch which is not good and we both know that so appreciate what you got
you didnt even test out the stuff i said out too so you are not diussmantling my point either and we are not going anywhere by blaming me for not providing benchmark results, im gettn sleepy at doing so too
its tiresome to just to look at a machine doing stuff for you and you wont need to do anything where u then becasue of that WONT feel how the machine reacts to you because you hands on the mouse and keyboard are missing. i dont want you to be mad but just understand me, thats all im asking you have such a dope PC i mena 14 core, 6900Xt which is between a 3080/3080TI and youre doign 1080p benchmarks on a 2018 game in basically 2025? that isnt what this is about because i give you a lil secreat, it wil lstill do 200+ FPS in SOTR at 1080p which is btw really good im not saying its crap it will do it in 20 years still but will it do it in the new games? nope, its always about the new games, testing old game test it on an i7 2600k then there u see wow its not that far off from new XYZ CPU in the FPS but it will feel sluggish and will have hitches

just oticed youre the one with the 192gigs how cooly is it puttn the feet up the table and just NOT care, at all?
i know the feeling and its great, no benchmark can show you that its like talking about the feeling of a drug without actually taking it

yep thats how tech works hehe ^^ and you with a 7940X/192gb/rx 6900xt will sorta tell me otherwise i mean loooolzzahh^^
youre the guy who should be saying, YES more cores more ram more poweeeerr" but no, your testing a 2018 game and conclude everything is that way, im gladly giving you an i7 7700k and tell me its a nice plesant experience in indiana jones, not even in 4k, it would be horrific and useless
it would launch and display frames but so would an i7 2600k in a lot of instances but wou would be screaming in pain as a gamer playing it on it and thats not visible on a benchy after a while
despite the 7700k acutally having higher coreclock and IPC then a 7940x not sdo with my 10940x but so be it, i would take a 7940x to play games any day of the week then a 7700k , evenfor games that released today cuz they nicer on it, its like a thiker blanket rather then a thin one or room service vs making it your own you know? thats what your system is bro, dont let the benchmarks get in your way of enjoying your system

yep, agreed

Hmmm that's what I thought and sorry to break your bubble but sems like you do not know exactly what are you talking about.....I specifically told you why I am testing SOTR in 1080p lower resolution because on lower res, your GPU is not your bottleneck like it is on higher resolutions and then all pressure will be on your CPU and some on your ram and then you can see how high your CPU can go also you can clearly see better performance when you tweak your memory that's why SOTR is good as benchmarking tool beside that I never played that game a lot ......Anyway in reality when I am playing games I am playing them mostly in 4K sometimes in 1440p and I love to have a lot of ram not that much for gaming as it's not that beneficial but from other side it's good for editing and personally I love to have many tasks open on my multiples screens and it's nice when you don't care that much that you going to be short on your ram in some heavy multitasking....

P.S.And yeah of course that I am saying more cores more ram more power no one ever disputes that I just told that still even this days some (not all) games prefers fewer faster cores instead and when I am saying fewer cores I mean on CPU's with 4-8 cores as we can clearly see that today still 8 cores cpu like 9800X 3D are the fastest gaming CPU's on the market

 

[C7TJFVB7-CAZ]

Hmmm that's what I thought and sorry to break your bubble but sems like you do not know exactly what are you talking about.....I specifically told you why I am testing SOTR in 1080p lower resolution because on lower res, your GPU is not your bottleneck like it is on higher resolutions and then all pressure will be on your CPU and some on your ram and then you can see how high your CPU can go also you can clearly see better performance when you tweak your memory that's why SOTR is good as benchmarking tool beside that I never played that game a lot ......Anyway in reality when I am playing games I am playing them mostly in 4K sometimes in 1440p and I love to have a lot of ram not that much for gaming as it's not that beneficial but from other side it's good for editing and personally I love to have many tasks open on my multiples screens and it's nice when you don't care that much that you going to be short on your ram....

okay i know now why you tested in 1080p and that its true that it will hammer the CPU and will be a CPU bottleneck but thats STILL absolutely dumb because you dont want that on your setjup you wanted it to be cranked up and enjoy it,
asside from that, ive used most CPUs from 2010 to 2022 and going back and forth between my 7820X and 10940x i notice the difference without needing to run a benchmark otherwise it would e a depressing upgrade if you cna only determain from a benchmark if the pc is nicer now then your old one
well now use a R7 7700X for example with 32gigs where a LOT of ppl would say that its a way better machine then yours becasue they saw a benchmark chart, really i mean thats how low we have become
its not a bubble, i told manny ppl with there i7 4790k that there 3080 is jack crap for cyberpunk or anything bejoynd 2020 and they play it and say its fine and i said: then you dont know what fine and smooth is bro,
Him: well my GPU is 100% used so more CPU wont help me
ME: Im sure you think so, you would be wrong.
HIM: But how do you know??
ME: Because ive used them ALL, and you havent and you would be wrong.
HIM: But the Benchmark Graphs
ME: Theres more to a PC then a Benchmark or FPS Count
HIM:

that guy couldnt even ^^
was funny to see

annother good one:
Ive upgraded from 32 to 64gigs of RAM and it wasnt untill then that i realised warzone wasnt smooth
now im asking you Zyll how do you benchmark that or do you even call him stupid because whatever?

do me a favor and turn off 10 cores of your 7940x and not just benchmark PLAY THE GAME, then come back and tell me i was wrong that WAS MY point to say its not the lower half of the 2010s anymore, stuff changed in 10 years, so does CPU tech in general and the need for more cores, i told that to ppl in 2012 and here we are with 24 cores on the mainsteam
an I9 14900k/R9 7950X are gaming CUZ straight up, if you wanna do work you get a threadripper or X299, thats whats there for true stuff u know and you got one so STFU imma tell you if you disable 10 cores on it and then play something that dosent relie on IPC (which is most of the new games today) then you wont have any fun but the benchmark chart would still look good interms of FPS
YOU FINALLY GETTN THAT?
what im fine with your efforts there, did i ever complain about that you didnt do any work o there in terms of theoretical performane numbers and all that testing? nope i just said that THEN using that machine dosent coralate to what the benchmark is saying

there was this time ive played on a fireends 5800X3D and 3090 before at 4k in new shines and it was awfull, told ihm to get a 5950x and he did actually cuz money wasnt an issue obviously when that dude just bought a 3090 and then he called me and said, dman youre right its a lot nicer now, and i asked him what the FPS was? and hes like, ehm well its the same
and i was like AHA!!! told you bro, this just all nonsense (to a sertain extend of course)
conclusion:
1. More cores smoothout the imerfections of the gameplay including inputlag and loading times (provided you got a good ssd too but you do have a gen 4 premium drive on an i9 hopefully)
2. More Ram does make your PC nicer to use in sence of everythign can be stored and cached on the ram and you never run out of it makes everyhtign a bit more snappy
3. Higher Resolution dosent result in lower CPU usage there for less CPU bottleneck
4. 1080p with stupid high framerate is a waste of a premium card like a 4080 or something because you gotta be to get thoes high framerate shown in various videos of f.e Gamers Nexus
5. if youre playing a game that uses 6 cores on an 8 core chip, then the minute ANYTHING else wants to do something there are free resurces idly waiting for something to do
if you do that on a 6 core u might have her FPS then the older higher CC chip but worse overall feel because the CPU is simply overwhelmed
and getting that for the people to understand is a verya hard job im gladly signed for it even tho its annoying sometimes
im not saying youre full of crap or youre wrong but i want you to understand that what you do here is what we have done in 2014, no kiddn bro, no cap
but 20154 hardware/software was MIIIILLEES different to today so no wonder why different results havent come up yet so no wonder why results look the same
hey, once again props for you to keep up with me and discuss

Question of the Day (from a Video)
My husband this week: Why cant i play thoes two games at the same time without stuttering? ME: Darling your PC has only 8 cores.

yes i also sometimes have more then one gaming running, this 2024 ppl
get some moooar cores xD
you got THE system Zyll, dont benchmark it, if i was your 7940x i would jump outta the socket^_^
youre the benchmark, if your at a poijnt where u got everything open up what you do and and u cant do anything more to slow the system down, then you reached the point of where you are in love of your system, if you beleave theres a benchmark for that then idk, cant help ya with that hehe ;D
obivously an i9 is alwas better then an R5, at least within the same generation you PAID more
a 64core TR would be dumb to buy for gaming, yes but 14, heel no, the Division 2 would like a word, that scales so nicely with more cores to smooth shizzy out in very intense battles when ive experienced that the first time, i snapped in my head, it made click cuz up to that point i still benchamrked ffrom time to time and had the FPS counter up when playing, now i have it off and im way less distracted by doing so

Hmmm that's what I thought and sorry to break your bubble but sems like you do not know exactly what are you talking about.....I specifically told you why I am testing SOTR in 1080p lower resolution because on lower res, your GPU is not your bottleneck like it is on higher resolutions and then all pressure will be on your CPU and some on your ram and then you can see how high your CPU can go also you can clearly see better performance when you tweak your memory that's why SOTR is good as benchmarking tool beside that I never played that game a lot ......Anyway in reality when I am playing games I am playing them mostly in 4K sometimes in 1440p and I love to have a lot of ram not that much for gaming as it's not that beneficial but from other side it's good for editing and personally I love to have many tasks open on my multiples screens and it's nice when you don't care that much that you going to be short on your ram in some heavy multitasking....

P.S.And yeah of course that I am saying more cores more ram more power no one ever disputes that I just told that still even this days some (not all) games prefers fewer faster cores instead and when I am saying fewer cores I mean on CPU's with 4-8 cores as we can clearly see that today still 8 cores cpu like 9800X 3D are the fastest gaming CPU's on the market

well its the fastest cpu on earth the 9800x3d,
YAP,
in 1080p with a 4090 which is so bad of an idea that i shoudl call the emergency ^^
the minute you do some more then gaming it will be catastrophic (very specific usecase CPU)
the minute you do 1440p or even 4k, most of that gap goes away and it be less smoother, ive sat in front of such machine (7800x3d)
the minute you DONT have a 4090 you also could have gottn thwe non X3d because it would berform exactly the same then
and besides that ive played the MW3 warzone on my 10940x before and oh boy was it destorying the 78300x3d hehe
4k ultrawide cuz 16:9 are way too old and less immersive (personal opinion here now^^ ) it was doing 350 fps at its highest and about 300 pretty much all the time and man was it so smooth i actually enjoyed playing it for once ^^ aso nope i would take a 14900k over a 9800x3d all day long because ive used both before not my own PCs but from friends when building them for customers (which i didnt liked to
and lemme tell you what, you have a better machine then anyone with a 9800x3d, they at 1080p bro
i rather get a PS5 cuz that ill do 1440p@120 fps and i dont have to build and pay quadrouple the price of a PS5 just to play at 1080p to get thoes high FPS but then again you still at 8 cores, most limiting factor here
the 9800x3d isnt the best gamign cpu bro, would you pls pass what youre smoking, it must be good stuff
did you used one before too to say this vs your 7940x? maybe im in love with it how manny ive heard complaiyn bout crappy MT perforamnce on a 5800X3D despite higher res? a LOT
and yeah u buy an X3D for gamign but then agian in todays world there isnt that much difference between console and PC gamign in terms of performance or even skil lthese days what they have a is a glorified luxury console
what you have Zyll is a PC, a workhorse that can do ANYTHING you want, pretty much everything at the same time, a 9800x3d would be very soon completely overwhelmed cuz its only meant for gaming which sucks, ppl should do more then just game on there pcs, then they wouldnt say its the fastest CPU in the world,, even if so, i take smoother over faster
cuz if i want more microstutter and hitches i just go back to my 7820x which is only 8 cores because its ,,fine'' and wont need a 7940X
Zyll, keep ya 7940x and laugh over ppl who buy a 9800X3D because all they do is stupid gamign when they could just get a better gamign experience by buying a PS5, i mean for real now, they gotta be a 1080p for thoes high FPS and the Ps5 is super smooth at 120 while having 1440p
i mena really they buy a 400+$ CPU jsut to play at 1080p and then a 1500$+ card to play at 1080p? its 2025 almost and 8 cores, offf im dying over here bro
soon get the 10980xe and put my 10940x into the second pc cuz my 7820x suckz ballz ^_^
but how would i knew if i didnt tried the 10940x huh? right YOU WONT!

 

[Zyll Goliat]

okay i know now why you tested in 1080p and that its true that it will hammer the CPU and will be a CPU bottleneck but thats STILL absolutely dumb because you dont want that on your setjup you wanted it to be cranked up and enjoy it,
asside from that, ive used most CPUs from 2010 to 2022 and going back and forth between my 7820X and 10940x i notice the difference without needing to run a benchmark otherwise it would e a depressing upgrade if you cna only determain from a benchmark if the pc is nicer now then your old one
well now use a R7 7700X for example with 32gigs where a LOT of ppl would say that its a way better machine then yours becasue they saw a benchmark chart, really i mean thats how low we have become
its not a bubble, i told manny ppl with there i7 4790k that there 3080 is jack crap for cyberpunk or anything bejoynd 2020 and they play it and say its fine and i said: then you dont know what fine and smooth is bro,
Him: well my GPU is 100% used so more CPU wont help me
ME: Im sure you think so, you would be wrong.
HIM: But how do you know??
ME: Because ive used them ALL, and you havent and you would be wrong.
HIM: But the Benchmark Graphs
ME: Theres more to a PC then a Benchmark or FPS Count
HIM:

that guy couldnt even ^^
was funny to see

annother good one:
Ive upgraded from 32 to 64gigs of RAM and it wasnt untill then that i realised warzone wasnt smooth
now im asking you Zyll how do you benchmark that or do you even call him stupid because whatever?

do me a favor and turn off 10 cores of your 7940x and not just benchmark PLAY THE GAME, then come back and tell me i was wrong that WAS MY point to say its not the lower half of the 2010s anymore, stuff changed in 10 years, so does CPU tech in general and the need for more cores, i told that to ppl in 2012 and here we are with 24 cores on the mainsteam
an I9 14900k/R9 7950X are gaming CUZ straight up, if you wanna do work you get a threadripper or X299, thats whats there for true stuff u know and you got one so STFU imma tell you if you disable 10 cores on it and then play something that dosent relie on IPC (which is most of the new games today) then you wont have any fun but the benchmark chart would still look good interms of FPS
YOU FINALLY GETTN THAT?
what im fine with your efforts there, did i ever complain about that you didnt do any work o there in terms of theoretical performane numbers and all that testing? nope i just said that THEN using that machine dosent coralate to what the benchmark is saying

there was this time ive played on a fireends 5800X3D and 3090 before at 4k in new shines and it was awfull, told ihm to get a 5950x and he did actually cuz money wasnt an issue obviously when that dude just bought a 3090 and then he called me and said, dman youre right its a lot nicer now, and i asked him what the FPS was? and hes like, ehm well its the same
and i was like AHA!!! told you bro, this just all nonsense (to a sertain extend of course)
conclusion:
1. More cores smoothout the imerfections of the gameplay including inputlag and loading times (provided you got a good ssd too but you do have a gen 4 premium drive on an i9 hopefully)
2. More Ram does make your PC nicer to use in sence of everythign can be stored and cached on the ram and you never run out of it makes everyhtign a bit more snappy
3. Higher Resolution dosent result in lower CPU usage there for less CPU bottleneck
4. 1080p with stupid high framerate is a waste of a premium card like a 4080 or something because you gotta be to get thoes high framerate shown in various videos of f.e Gamers Nexus
5. if youre playing a game that uses 6 cores on an 8 core chip, then the minute ANYTHING else wants to do something there are free resurces idly waiting for something to do
if you do that on a 6 core u might have her FPS then the older higher CC chip but worse overall feel because the CPU is simply overwhelmed
and getting that for the people to understand is a verya hard job im gladly signed for it even tho its annoying sometimes
im not saying youre full of crap or youre wrong but i want you to understand that what you do here is what we have done in 2014, no kiddn bro, no cap
but 20154 hardware/software was MIIIILLEES different to today so no wonder why different results havent come up yet so no wonder why results look the same
hey, once again props for you to keep up with me and discuss

Question of the Day (from a Video)
My husband this week: Why cant i play thoes two games at the same time without stuttering? ME: Darling your PC has only 8 cores.

yes i also sometimes have more then one gaming running, this 2024 ppl
get some moooar cores xD
you got THE system Zyll, dont benchmark it, if i was your 7940x i would jump outta the socket^_^
youre the benchmark, if your at a poijnt where u got everything open up what you do and and u cant do anything more to slow the system down, then you reached the point of where you are in love of your system, if you beleave theres a benchmark for that then idk, cant help ya with that hehe ;D
obivously an i9 is alwas better then an R5, at least within the same generation you PAID more
a 64core TR would be dumb to buy for gaming, yes but 14, heel no, the Division 2 would like a word, that scales so nicely with more cores to smooth shizzy out in very intense battles when ive experienced that the first time, i snapped in my head, it made click cuz up to that point i still benchamrked ffrom time to time and had the FPS counter up when playing, now i have it off and im way less distracted by doing so


well its the fastest cpu on earth the 9800x3d,
YAP,
in 1080p with a 4090 which is so bad of an idea that i shoudl call the emergency ^^
the minute you do some more then gaming it will be catastrophic (very specific usecase CPU)
the minute you do 1440p or even 4k, most of that gap goes away and it be less smoother, ive sat in front of such machine (7800x3d)
the minute you DONT have a 4090 you also could have gottn thwe non X3d because it would berform exactly the same then
and besides that ive played the MW3 warzone on my 10940x before and oh boy was it destorying the 78300x3d hehe
4k ultrawide cuz 16:9 are way too old and less immersive (personal opinion here now^^ ) it was doing 350 fps at its highest and about 300 pretty much all the time and man was it so smooth i actually enjoyed playing it for once ^^ aso nope i would take a 14900k over a 9800x3d all day long because ive used both before not my own PCs but from friends when building them for customers (which i didnt liked to
and lemme tell you what, you have a better machine then anyone with a 9800x3d, they at 1080p bro
i rather get a PS5 cuz that ill do 1440p@120 fps and i dont have to build and pay quadrouple the price of a PS5 just to play at 1080p to get thoes high FPS but then again you still at 8 cores, most limiting factor here
the 9800x3d isnt the best gamign cpu bro, would you pls pass what youre smoking, it must be good stuff
did you used one before too to say this vs your 7940x? maybe im in love with it how manny ive heard complaiyn bout crappy MT perforamnce on a 5800X3D despite higher res? a LOT
and yeah u buy an X3D for gamign but then agian in todays world there isnt that much difference between console and PC gamign in terms of performance or even skil lthese days what they have a is a glorified luxury console
what you have Zyll is a PC, a workhorse that can do ANYTHING you want, pretty much everything at the same time, a 9800x3d would be very soon completely overwhelmed cuz its only meant for gaming which sucks, ppl should do more then just game on there pcs, then they wouldnt say its the fastest CPU in the world,, even if so, i take smoother over faster
cuz if i want more microstutter and hitches i just go back to my 7820x which is only 8 cores because its ,,fine'' and wont need a 7940X
Zyll, keep ya 7940x and laugh over ppl who buy a 9800X3D because all they do is stupid gamign when they could just get a better gamign experience by buying a PS5, i mean for real now, they gotta be a 1080p for thoes high FPS and the Ps5 is super smooth at 120 while having 1440p
i mena really they buy a 400+$ CPU jsut to play at 1080p and then a 1500$+ card to play at 1080p? its 2025 almost and 8 cores, offf im dying over here bro
soon get the 10980xe and put my 10940x into the second pc cuz my 7820x suckz ballz ^_^
but how would i knew if i didnt tried the 10940x huh? right YOU WONT!

I don't want to be rude but it seems like you are confused about certain things also this is TechPowerUp forum and people here love to do real benchmarking and testing to compare results with each other and to try to improve their OC or cooling or power efficiency sometimes of course they will just post their results for fun not all of us are here from some sort of competitions but most of us love to see other people results and benchmarks I mean anyway that's one the points of this forum.....

On your question how do you benchmark your memory upgrade from 32Gb to 64Gb in gaming.....Answer is easy you look for yours 1% lows in games because usually if you are short in Vram or System Ram your 1% lows will suffer causing sometimes stuttering for a fraction of a second........

Also 9800X3D at this point it is clearly THE BEST CPU for gaming if you look all the metrics...you saying that yours old 10940X performs better and not delivering any proof of that is just an empty words my friend as someone that still using X299 and probably I will use this platform for a while I am aware how good or bad it is....personally I love it and I always like Intel HEDT I used X58 and X79 previously and now X299 and honestly at this point in time is still relevant but far far away from the very best on the market today....And yeah those 9800X3D will swipe the floor with my 7940X in gaming and they are almost on par in any other heavy apps loads like editing.....so no I don't have any advantage except from the price to performance as I paid my cpu/mobo/mem really cheap

 

[C7TJFVB7-CAZ]

alrighty well youre good bro ^^ i get it and i knew it all a long just wanted to do some different for once and im not mad if youre dudes doing it for fun. i kinda dont or at least i did waaay back when there was a lot more to be had from OC
like the good ohl i7 2600kay ^.^ that thing was the last CPU that wowed me when OPCing you ligitemently had a new cpu instaled once you overclocky it but cooly yeah youre correct and 1% low hitches suck hehe ^^

was a long debate n shit tho, was good at least you participated in it which is not common these days

 

[Corralz]

I have a 7900x on my current system, been trying to look around on ebay for a decent deal on a 10920x or a 10900x but they are reasonably higher than the 9000x series, i had heard that the jump from 7000 to the 9000 series isnt very much , any point of getting a 9920x? i dont really need it but i think this chipset is super cool.

 

[C7TJFVB7-CAZ]

I have a 7900x on my current system, been trying to look around on ebay for a decent deal on a 10920x or a 10900x but they are reasonably higher than the 9000x series, i had heard that the jump from 7000 to the 9000 series isnt very much , any point of getting a 9920x? i dont really need it but i think this chipset is super cool.

mhhh, mhh, its quiet a bit butttt idk might be a lil nicer if youre picky but 10th gen surely does, especially in cooling department, or get an even higher CC like a 7960x or 10940x thats what ive got, beats the 5950x confortably and gets close to a 7950X and also in IPC
The 9920x is resonably cheap now on ebay like 180 ish $ now for that u can only get a lowly R7 5700X so deffinetly go for one, i dont see any problem in it, 10th gen you have to swing a lil bit more cashy i know i know jsut 2 cores more but more refined and everything BUT a 9940x aint a bad idea too, since its 4 more cores then, why not, depends on how much uwanna spend and most importanly what you expect
oh this chipsets pretty cool you havent got the full idea tho yet how good it can get omg my bud Zyll here got a 7940 and he knows already how they rock

I don't want to be rude but it seems like you are confused about certain things also this is TechPowerUp forum and people here love to do real benchmarking and testing to compare results with each other and to try to improve their OC or cooling or power efficiency sometimes of course they will just post their results for fun not all of us are here from some sort of competitions but most of us love to see other people results and benchmarks I mean anyway that's one the points of this forum.....

On your question how do you benchmark your memory upgrade from 32Gb to 64Gb in gaming.....Answer is easy you look for yours 1% lows in games because usually if you are short in Vram or System Ram your 1% lows will suffer causing sometimes stuttering for a fraction of a second........

Also 9800X3D at this point it is clearly THE BEST CPU for gaming if you look all the metrics...you saying that yours old 10940X performs better and not delivering any proof of that is just an empty words my friend as someone that still using X299 and probably I will use this platform for a while I am aware how good or bad it is....personally I love it and I always like Intel HEDT I used X58 and X79 previously and now X299 and honestly at this point in time is still relevant but far far away from the very best on the market today....And yeah those 9800X3D will swipe the floor with my 7940X in gaming and they are almost on par in any other heavy apps loads like editing.....so no I don't have any advantage except from the price to performance as I paid my cpu/mobo/mem really cheap

well 5800x3d at least perhabs i misstyped, not liking thoes 3d chips much as you might have noticed but nah it does very much up there with the fps but sadly only with FSR or DLSS which they all do too, as ive seen on redit but i still take a dope 144hz over a barely running 240hz ive seen on friends machines who had x3d chips, sometimes you rather be on the slower side but youre still happy with it since its fast enouth to be competetive and OR ;D take the smoother over stuttery and yes 144hz can be smoother then 240, if the 240 is shady provided ^^ like with FSR on MW3 on my 10940x, 165hz is what it does at 3440x1440p highest settings i thiunk no one would actually still want a 3D chip bro this is a nice premium gaming experience man, i think you can agree there
btw ive got a 4080 and also a 3070, a mainstream system currently wont do that without post issues hehe cuz of the lanes sooo nope,m a 7940X in davinci resolve both GPUs are working and in the timelike as well as the export it be the 7940x again come ontop, not a 9800x3d man, this a 8 core gaming chip too with a very low Lane Count so,
The bandwith of ddr4 quadchannel which we both have also is quiet a bit more then DDR5 Dualchannel (also good when editing) youre seriously underestimating X299 here, maybe i do with mainstream too but its just because we havent had much interesting stuff released asside from just faster faster faster that drives me nutz
i want a full 24 core R9 10950X3D with idk 44pcie lanes, quadchannel or maybe DDR6, and no CCDs, full AVX 512 and THEN imma gonna upgrade, otherwise it be a sidegrade
but good thing i get a 10980xe anyways so 18 full phat cores to play with, mmmmhh, big sized pack of chips for me, and its not shared heheh, peace and love to you man

 

[Zyll Goliat]

I have a 7900x on my current system, been trying to look around on ebay for a decent deal on a 10920x or a 10900x but they are reasonably higher than the 9000x series, i had heard that the jump from 7000 to the 9000 series isnt very much , any point of getting a 9920x? i dont really need it but i think this chipset is super cool.

Well 7,9 or 10 on X299 are basically identical CPU's they are all on 14nm have same instruction basically same IPC if they work on same speed but hey that's the catch the difference is their stock clocks and turbo clocks 9 and 10 have higher and higher stock and turbo clocks and seems like that 10 series are a bit better for OC...so in short if you don't want to OC by yourself and you just want put your's CPU in the socket and leave it like that then yeah go for the 10 but they are still pricey.......

 

[C7TJFVB7-CAZ]

Well 7,9 or 10 on X299 are basically identical CPU's they are all on 14nm have same instruction basically same IPC if they work on same speed but hey that's the catch the difference is their stock clocks and turbo clocks 9 and 10 have higher and higher stock and turbo clocks and seems like that 10 series are a bit better for OC...so in short if you don't want to OC by yourself and you just want put your's CPU in the socket and leave it like that then yeah go for the 10 but they are still pricey.......

well thesy not the same, got a 7820 and 10940 right in front of me, quiet a bit fast of course not flipping INSANE but theres quiet a bit they are not the same and the 7th gen isnt soldered so very high temps

 

[Zyll Goliat]

well thesy not the same, got a 7820 and 10940 right in front of me, quiet a bit fast of course not flipping INSANE but theres quiet a bit they are not the same and the 7th gen isnt soldered so very high temps

Yes they are basically the same except the higher stock and turbo clocks and yeah I already mention they a bit better for OC less heat there are no other differences..........IPC is identical clock per clock wise........

 

[C7TJFVB7-CAZ]

Yes they are basically the same except the higher stock and turbo clocks and yeah I already mention they a bit better for OC less heat there are no other differences..........IPC is identical clock per clock wise........so youre basicaly saing a 7820x is just as good in games as a 10940? because its not even CLOOOSEE hehehe 11 lol wt?? xD im falling apart here, lolling my ass off ^^

sollz sorry idk why this bugged out but not what you said sorry crap
didnt knew you could type in the ,,said'' box :F

i give you a lil hint, the 10940x is better then the R7 5700G you would prolly say no now right? thats what ive had before, night and day difference
and im not so stupid to do a downgrade^^

to me i would alwas go for the 10940x vs the 7940x even just gaming, bo6 is so much fun when its so buttery it runs like black ops 2 ^_^ BUT it isnt dramatic thats fore sure, im still realistic a bit
never said IPC or Single Core Speed isnt important at all, its now far far less important then the corecount, otherwise i wouldnt have seen big difference to the 7820x right after booting up windows
i wouldnt compare a i7 5960X 8 core to a 9800x3d ,suuuurely i pick the 9800x3d okay thats a bit different there then vbecause 10 years apart too but if its like 2 or 3, opkay granted X299 is older even 10th gen is almost 5 now but we gotta make an exeption there

 

[Zyll Goliat]

sollz sorry idk why this bugged out but not what you said sorry crap
didnt knew you could type in the ,,said'' box :F

i give you a lil hint, the 10940x is better then the R7 5700G you would prolly say no now right? thats what ive had before, night and day difference
and im not so stupid to do a downgrade^^

to me i would alwas go for the 10940x vs the 7940x even just gaming, bo6 is so much fun when its so buttery it runs like black ops 2 ^_^ BUT it isnt dramatic thats fore sure, im still realistic a bit
never said IPC or Single Core Speed isnt important at all, its now far far less important then the corecount, otherwise i wouldnt have seen big difference to the 7820x right after booting up windows

Do not mix apples with oranges pls. and stop talking nonsense and why should I said 5700g is better then 10940X?Tho' 5700g ain't that bad for gaming at all but in multithread apps 10940X it's still much better CPU.........I do not see what is so difficult to understand for example 7940X,9940X and 10940X are the same 14c/28t CPU's....same amount of L1,L2,L3 cache,same instructions they are build on 14nm everything is the same EXCEPT the stock and turbo clocks and yeah 9,10 are maybe a bit better for OC that is all nothing else there is no mystery there for example if you put them all to work on 4Ghz(all core)same bios settings on the same mobo with the same ram speed on the same windows system you will get basically the identical results in all the benchmarks......end of story.....

 

[Corralz]

mhhh, mhh, its quiet a bit butttt idk might be a lil nicer if youre picky but 10th gen surely does, especially in cooling department, or get an even higher CC like a 7960x or 10940x thats what ive got, beats the 5950x confortably and gets close to a 7950X and also in IPC
The 9920x is resonably cheap now on ebay like 180 ish $ now for that u can only get a lowly R7 5700X so deffinetly go for one, i dont see any problem in it, 10th gen you have to swing a lil bit more cashy i know i know jsut 2 cores more but more refined and everything BUT a 9940x aint a bad idea too, since its 4 more cores then, why not, depends on how much uwanna spend and most importanly what you expect
oh this chipsets pretty cool you havent got the full idea tho yet how good it can get omg my bud Zyll here got a 7940 and he knows already how they rock


well 5800x3d at least perhabs i misstyped, not liking thoes 3d chips much as you might have noticed but nah it does very much up there with the fps but sadly only with FSR or DLSS which they all do too, as ive seen on redit but i still take a dope 144hz over a barely running 240hz ive seen on friends machines who had x3d chips, sometimes you rather be on the slower side but youre still happy with it since its fast enouth to be competetive and OR ;D take the smoother over stuttery and yes 144hz can be smoother then 240, if the 240 is shady provided ^^ like with FSR on MW3 on my 10940x, 165hz is what it does at 3440x1440p highest settings i thiunk no one would actually still want a 3D chip bro this is a nice premium gaming experience man, i think you can agree there
btw ive got a 4080 and also a 3070, a mainstream system currently wont do that without post issues hehe cuz of the lanes sooo nope,m a 7940X in davinci resolve both GPUs are working and in the timelike as well as the export it be the 7940x again come ontop, not a 9800x3d man, this a 8 core gaming chip too with a very low Lane Count so,
The bandwith of ddr4 quadchannel which we both have also is quiet a bit more then DDR5 Dualchannel (also good when editing) youre seriously underestimating X299 here, maybe i do with mainstream too but its just because we havent had much interesting stuff released asside from just faster faster faster that drives me nutz
i want a full 24 core R9 10950X3D with idk 44pcie lanes, quadchannel or maybe DDR6, and no CCDs, full AVX 512 and THEN imma gonna upgrade, otherwise it be a sidegrade
but good thing i get a 10980xe anyways so 18 full phat cores to play with, mmmmhh, big sized pack of chips for me, and its not shared heheh, peace and love to you man

I actually just picked up a 9920x for 140 on eBay lol. Upgrading my 7900x

 

[C7TJFVB7-CAZ]

I actually just picked up a 9920x for 140 on eBay lol. Upgrading my 7900x

hahaa i knew it, good choise you gonna have fun with that for sure
you wont need a benchmark to tell the difference

 

[Corralz]

hahaa i knew it, good choise you gonna have fun with that for sure
you wont need a benchmark to tell the difference

I probably wont need a benchmark, but am I definitely going to benchmark and get the max OC i can on it. hopefully i can get a better OC on it than i have on my 7900x. i have it OC'd at 4.3 with 2 core @ 4.7 ghz and it gets pretty hot lol.