RTX 5090 ridiculous price!

Intervention · 2025-01-19T16:55:23+0000

This is the retail price in Norway for the RTX 5090 and 5080. This is in Norwegian kroner. So basically, almost $2900, and $1800. These are not placeholder prices. This is the actual release price, going by previous releases on this site, such as when the 4090 and 4080 were released. We get the shaft :laugh:

Macro Device · 2025-01-19T16:56:51+0000

These are likely to be placeholders and subject to change when these GPUs are officially released. Be patient and wait another couple weeks.

N/A · 2025-01-19T17:15:45+0000

Not that outlandish, $999 msrp turns into $1186 with Gigabyte premium model plus reseller tax, 1483 with 25% VAT included.

Windforce SFF is the one closest to MSRP but hardest to find.

Chrispy_ · 2025-01-19T17:21:29+0000

Intervention said:
This is the retail price in Norway for the RTX 5090 and 5080. This is in Norwegian kroner. So basically, almost $2900, and $1800. These are not placeholder prices. This is the actual release price, going by previous releases on this site, such as when the 4090 and 4080 were released. We get the shaft

I'm not sure why anyone is surprised.

The 4090 has been selling for 40-50% more than its MSRP for ages.
So the $1999 MSRP of the 5090 was expected to be $2800-3000 all along.

Supply and demand is how the market works, and those rules have been ironclad since long before any of us were born.

evernessince · 2025-01-19T17:34:20+0000

Chrispy_ said:
I'm not sure why anyone is surprised.

The 4090 has been selling for 40-50% more than its MSRP for ages.
So the $1999 MSRP of the 5090 was expected to be $2800-3000 all along.

Supply and demand is how the market works, and those rules have been ironclad since long before any of us were born.

The 4090 has an MSRP of $1,600 and it's inflated street price is $2,000.

That's 25% above MSRP, not 40-50%.

Macro Device · 2025-01-19T17:36:56+0000

evernessince said:
street price is $2,000.

Not everywhere. In Russia, for example, the cheapest BNIB 4090 goes for 2620 USD (VAT included).

inquisitor1 · 2025-01-19T17:37:50+0000

>ridiculous price!

hahahaha lauging my asz off. this is the 3rd gen like this and it still hasnt sunk in? youre so surprised of the prices? what did you think 5090 would sell for $1000 ? hahaha

when covid was in full force and 30 series were out, was that not enough to sink in what will happen in the future? naive people

Dahita · 2025-01-19T17:43:11+0000

N/A said:
Not that outlandish, $999 msrp turns into $1186 with Gigabyte premium model plus reseller tax, 1483 with 25% VAT included.

Windforce SFF is the one closest to MSRP but hardest to find.

Really? Wait... no, really?!

Eskimonster · 2025-01-19T17:45:29+0000

Intervention said:
This is the retail price in Norway for the RTX 5090 and 5080. This is in Norwegian kroner. So basically, almost $2900, and $1800. These are not placeholder prices. This is the actual release price, going by previous releases on this site, such as when the 4090 and 4080 were released. We get the shaft

Norwegian krone is worthless, it´s gonna cost a lot. Your own gov made this. Maybe use some oil to get it ? Maybe From Ekofisk oil field ?, We gave it to you for free !!! almost getting annoyed by comment.
You have chosen to stand alone, reap the bennefits. Or change StatOil. Your choice, i guess. If you don´t know who ruined your Krone, you need education.

Screenshot 2025-01-19 at 19-22-14 Norske kroner valutakurs diagram evaluta.dk.png

N/A · 2025-01-19T18:09:06+0000

Dahita said:
Really? Wait... no, really?!

You mean that's listed without VAT. the laws must be different there.

Dahita · 2025-01-19T18:32:05+0000

N/A said:
You mean that's listed without VAT. the laws must be different there.

$999 MSRP doubled because of 25% VAT and a custom fan design? Is this real life?

evernessince · 2025-01-19T18:43:14+0000

Macro Device said:
Not everywhere. In Russia, for example, the cheapest BNIB 4090 goes for 2620 USD (VAT included).
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I'm honestly surprised it's not more expensive is Russia. That's dead on with equivalent models in Europe: https://geizhals.eu/?fs=rtx+4090&hloc=at&hloc=de&hloc=eu&hloc=pl&hloc=uk

A lot of that pricing increase is due to the production stop though.

Sound_Card · 2025-01-19T18:46:47+0000

Intervention said:
This is the retail price in Norway for the RTX 5090 and 5080. This is in Norwegian kroner. So basically, almost $2900, and $1800. These are not placeholder prices. This is the actual release price, going by previous releases on this site, such as when the 4090 and 4080 were released. We get the shaft

Still better than using FSR and you get real RT. So I don't know why you are complaining.

evernessince · 2025-01-19T19:03:20+0000

Sound_Card said:
Still better than using FSR and you get real RT. So I don't know why you are complaining.

You can use DLSS with any Nvidia card so I'm not sure how that would be a justification for the prices OP cited.

real RT? RT is going to look similar regardless of whether you are using AMD or Nvidia so long as the game settings are the same. Honestly if AMD did come up with a way to "fake" RT for higher performance that would be great as it would enable people with lower end cards to actually partake. That would be a card seller for sure.

DemonicRyzen666 · 2025-01-19T19:07:40+0000

evernessince said:
The 4090 has an MSRP of $1,600 and it's inflated street price is $2,000.

That's 25% above MSRP, not 40-50%.

No, Nvidia pushed up the RTX 4090 MSRP to $1,999 a while ago.
This was because of "limited availability"

evernessince · 2025-01-19T21:18:58+0000

DemonicRyzen666 said:
No, Nvidia pushed up the RTX 4090 MSRP to $1,999 a while ago.
This was because of "limited availability"

Source? I believe you are conflating stopping production with any official price increase. There is no "limited availability", Nvidia said they were and have stopped production.

mate123 · 2025-01-19T21:29:29+0000

The cheapest 4090 is currently ~2500$ here with 27% vat, so I expect the 5090 to start north of 3000$ here...

Chrispy_ · 2025-01-19T21:32:00+0000

evernessince said:
The 4090 has an MSRP of $1,600 and it's inflated street price is $2,000.

That's 25% above MSRP, not 40-50%.

Amazon price trackers seem to suggest $2300 is the cheapest you'll find one in stock in the US, and it's been that way since last summer at least.

Over here they're out of stock entirely. Refurbs for nearly £2000 ($2400) and no new stock since the last of the £2200 offerings dried up, and £2000-2200 has been the going rate for several months now.

Zach_01 · 2025-01-19T21:41:47+0000

Plenty of 4090 listings here at price range of 2300~4000€.
At some point you could find some variants from ~1900€ but most of them were never under 2100~2200€

I don’t expect to see 5090s below 2600-2700€ and I think I’m optimistic.

oxrufiioxo · 2025-01-19T21:49:23+0000

I feel like I got a bargain at 1700 for my 4090... not long after they shot up to 2000-2200 and have hovered around that since. This was back in Feb 2023 so basically two years ago...

Dr. Dro · 2025-01-19T21:54:12+0000

Given the technology that goes in this card, I do not believe the prices are entirely unreasonable, however high they may be.

But here's the thing: you don't need a 5090 to have fun. You can perfectly buy a lower end model, or if you're open to accepting its flaws, AMD's competing product. You can also opt to snag an earlier generation card from someone upgrading, and there is absolutely no shame in that. If for some reason I'm unable to get a 5090... 5080 it will be, no use losing sleep over it.

29k DKK is about 24k BRL. It's the absolute worst case forecast I have for prices here in my country which has a similar tax load. I still think it will end up slightly below that, however.

Klemc · 2025-01-19T21:54:57+0000

evernessince said:
You can use DLSS with any Nvidia card so I'm not sure how that would be a justification for the prices OP cited.

real RT? RT is going to look similar regardless of whether you are using AMD or Nvidia so long as the game settings are the same. Honestly if AMD did come up with a way to "fake" RT for higher performance that would be great as it would enable people with lower end cards to actually partake. That would be a card seller for sure.

And use DLSS in any even unsupported game too, from now on (DLSS4) next driver :

In 571.86 videodriver new transformer model, which works only on RTX video cards. Also DLSS now can be used in all games where there is no official support DLSS. I think Nvidia programmers changed the video driver core itself to a new one, compatible only with RTX video cards.

Dr. Dro · 2025-01-19T22:01:01+0000

Klemc said:
And use DLSS in any even unsupported game too, from now on (DLSS4) next driver :

I wouldn't be surprised if the Release 570 driver dropped support for pre-RTX video cards, with the exception maybe of Volta (Titan V) and small Turing (GTX 16 series), the RTX 20 series GPUs are now 7 years old, and Pascal is 9 years old. The current driver branch supports as far as Maxwell 1, the 750 Ti is now 11 years old.

Regardless this isn't new, DLSS requires a GeForce RTX card to begin with. It doesn't work on earlier models, and this includes even DLSS 1.0 from way back.

oxrufiioxo · 2025-01-19T22:02:04+0000

Dr. Dro said:
Given the technology that goes in this card, I do not believe the prices are entirely unreasonable, however high they may be.

But here's the thing: you don't need a 5090 to have fun. You can perfectly buy a lower end model, or if you're open to accepting its flaws, AMD's competing product. You can also opt to snag an earlier generation card from someone upgrading, and there is absolutely no shame in that. If for some reason I'm unable to get a 5090... 5080 it will be, no use losing sleep over it.

The price is just a consequence of Nvidia trying to squeeze 4N for every last drop they can to get a marginal uplift over the 4090. That combined with 32GB equals their min asking price of $2000...

Price to performance likely will be the same or worse vs 2 years ago though and that still kinda sucks.

Dr. Dro · 2025-01-19T22:08:38+0000

oxrufiioxo said:
The price is just a consequence of Nvidia trying to squeeze 4N for every last drop they can to get a marginal uplift over the 4090. That combined with 32GB equals their min asking price of $2000...

Price to performance likely will be the same or worse vs 2 years ago though and that still kinda sucks.

It is at least contradictive to opt into purchasing a halo-tier product and want it to be focused on price to performance, though. It's kind of not the target audience.

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RTX 5090 ridiculous price!

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