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RTX 5090 ridiculous price!

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No matter the price, sheep will buy these and we can thank them for continuously increasing prices.

Wonder why practically no gamer bought a GTX Titan/Titan Black/Titan X/Xp for ~1000EUR but now it's totally okay to get a 2500EUR+ card every two years. Inflation isn't a valid answer.
If you could you would, you know it..

People who can will, and some people who cant will find a way.
 
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No matter the price, sheep will buy these and we can thank them for continuously increasing prices.

Wonder why practically no gamer bought a GTX Titan/Titan Black/Titan X/Xp for ~1000EUR but now it's totally okay to get a 2500EUR+ card every two years. Inflation isn't a valid answer.

It's always comforting to know that there are still sane people alive. Reading how these people rationalize this segment is absolutely wild.
 
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Nice comedy here

Drivers was bad 22-23 years ago and that is a valid argument…

And what is the meaning of real RT?
Does AMD fakes RT?
Jeez…

Don't bother with that guy, he said the exact same thing early and never replied to comments rebutting his points. Bad drivers 20+ years ago is definitely a valid argument but an experience that long ago reflects nothing on the current company and products.

Oh, these will sell to gamers alright. The extreme specs don't necessarily translate to "it's a professional or AI GPU", it's just the next-generation's flagship product. It's not just the AI crowd. The latest Steam Hardware Survey places the RTX 4090 at a higher utilization rate than even the RX 580, which is by far the best selling GPU model of all time (thanks to cryptocurrency miners). List here includes iGPUs and mobile dGPUs:

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As a 4090 owner who only purchased a 4090 for AI, those steam 4090 numbers are almost certainly influenced by the hobbyist AI market. The StableDiffusion reddit is a top 1% reddit in size and I'd be willing to bet a sizable number of those individuals also have steam installed. Factor in the 4090's use for OLLAMA and other AI hobbyist use cases as well and you have a significant number of users, particularly for a top end card.

For what you get.. the price really isn't that bad. Once all the software is laid out and in place, AI in game should be pretty cool. And you get the beef of a 4090 in 2 slots.

The price is high given the lack of improvement this gen and the fact that they are using the same node, which has come down drastically in price since the 4000 series.

2 slots is nice but the drawback of a smaller cooler will likely be a reliance on the fans. Fatter coolers will likely be able to sustain zero RPM fan mode for longer / up to a higher TDP than a 2 slot design. Plus one has to ask the question of if the cables connecting the PCBs on the FE have longevity drawbacks. Carrying a PCIe 5.0 signal over cable alone is a feat, ensuring long term reliability is another. When those cables carry your PCIe and IO data that's a big deal. Can't say I've ever had data lines on a PCB ever go bad but I've had plenty of cables go bad, and that includes some expensive enterprise cables. It would have been vastly preferable IMO to have a hard PCB style bridge instead of cables.
 

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I'm sure it will be fine.
 
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As a 4090 owner who only purchased a 4090 for AI, those steam 4090 numbers are almost certainly influenced by the hobbyist AI market. The StableDiffusion reddit is a top 1% reddit in size and I'd be willing to bet a sizable number of those individuals also have steam installed. Factor in the 4090's use for OLLAMA and other AI hobbyist use cases as well and you have a significant number of users, particularly for a top end card.

Is that the new cover? "We are AI hobbyist". Wait ... I think I actually hear Jen chuckling all the way from California. lol.
 
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Things I want but cannot afford cost too much...

I should immediately be given a 5090, a Lamborghini LP 670-4 sv, Versailles, a solid gold teddy bear, and an oil-tanker filled with cocaine to serve as my personal yacht.

Or perhaps, i could live within reality (and my means) and deal with it.
 

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Ahoy matey!

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Bad drivers 20+ years ago is definitely a valid argument
IMO it’s not, because… well you answered it already…
but an experience that long ago reflects nothing on the current company and products.
Different times, different place and 90+% of today GPU issues are related to other than drivers causes such as PSU/power, CPU/system and Windows/software errors.

GPU Drivers: same old sour candy that never melts out but many like to suckle and never spit either.
It’s exhausting.
 
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No matter the price, sheep will buy these and we can thank them for continuously increasing prices.

Wonder why practically no gamer bought a GTX Titan/Titan Black/Titan X/Xp for ~1000EUR but now it's totally okay to get a 2500EUR+ card every two years. Inflation isn't a valid answer.

This. I remember thinking it was nuts we suddenly had £1000 GPUs, and you're right, it seemed like barely anyone bought them.

I blame tech YouTubers. They've whipped everyone up into a tech frenzy, and now it's suddenly become normal to spend £2000 on a GPU ;)

That and PC gaming becoming more mainstream I guess.
 
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This prices are so fun, just laugh and nothing more to say, tbh.

IMO it’s not, because… well you answered it already…

Different times, different place and 90+% of today GPU issues are related to other than drivers causes such as PSU/power, CPU/system and Windows/software errors.

GPU Drivers: same old sour candy that never melts out but many like to suckle and never spit either.
It’s exhausting.

Drivers will become better if they drop older hardware support ?.. like next driver !
 
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Drivers will become better if they drop older hardware support ?.. like next driver !
I didn’t get it…
Meaning?
 
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Source? I believe you are conflating stopping production with any official price increase. There is no "limited availability", Nvidia said they were and have stopped production.
No I am not. It was mentioned about 8 months ago right here On Techpowerup here that the MSRP would go up to $1,999. Stop production just happened recently. In the summertime you could not get any RTXX 4090 under $2,100 with tax. I am pretty sure that it was leaked in or around the mist of the RTX 4080 super, 4070 super Ti, & 4070 super launch to make them seem like better deals.
 
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Ahoy matey!

Yep, midrange life over here.
Ain't it the truth. My PC addiction lived off of boneyards and scrapheaps for so many years. Computers are so powerful and easy now. I really don't understand the fuss.
 
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