NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 Founders Edition

[Krit]

How bad we are to praise such a thing

When nvidia are sending gpus for free to test it happens.

 

[Macro Device]

the 5070 is outperformed by the 4070S at the exact same price.

4070 Ti rather. 4070S will be awkwardly close to 5070. I doubt you would be able to tell them even with FPS counters enabled.

My logic: 4070S is approximately 117% of 4070.
5080, at 105% shader count, achieves +19% over 4080S in the most demanding titles.
So... 5070, at 104% shader count and higher clock, will likely achieve +15 to 20 % over 4070. Which is marginally worse/better than 4070S.

 

[Bwaze]

How bad we are to praise such a thing

I mean, better than have the same price increase as from $700 RTX 3080 to $1200 RTX 4080 - by that logic RTX could be 70% more expensive than the last gen, selling for about $2040 - which we may yet see, if the laments of the AIB partners that there are just not enough GPU processors are true...

 

[AtiAmd]

For competitive gaming dlss/fsr and their fake frames are pille of dog shat. I will always prefer native resolution and if the industry will keep making this "technology" as an holy grail we won't go far. Hardware unboxed and their dlss4 review and conclusion is spot on - it is rubbish!

Ps. I only check out TPU review to see "highly recommend" badge as usual - this time for 2 year 13% generation uplift
I get it by now....job is a job and all these websites depend on manufactures $...

 

[mkppo]

Has 3080 ever been sold for its MSRP if we don't count these three and a half lucky bastards who bought them directly from NVIDIA before shit hit the fan?
Ampere MSRPs are hereby irrelevant.

This "joke" of a MSRP, however, had been ENABLED. It's not only NVIDIA are complete greedsters, it's also ZERO GPUs to contest it. 7900 XTX for $1000 did and still does provide less value.

So my calculation of getting 45% better value than 2 years ago is accurate. You can argue with NVIDIA's pricing policy all you please but you can't argue with emotionless numbers.

I guess you can make it four and a half because I got mine but that's a separate topic altogether.

You see, we were discussing about a 400$ increase for the 5090 because that's what the MSRP is. Doesn't matter if it takes 10 months to get one at that price nor do we go like 'gaaah that's terrible value at $3000'. And we can always go back to Turing. But we don't need to because the 4080S exists. Also, the MSRP was cut by nvidia for a reason - the 4080 was rotting in shelves pretty much everywhere. So yeah sure there's 45% perf/$ uplift over a two year timespan but it's a pointless comparison because the card that got launched two years back was priced like shit and it's replacement does exist.

Also, you didn't mention 2 year thing in the post of yours I quoted. You were talking about RTX2000 providing even less uplift per dollar on release so I assumed we're talking gen on gen improvements. This replaces 4080 Super, so that's the comparison base. And it's 12% and it's pathetic.

 

[Chrispy_]

4070 Ti rather. 4070S will be awkwardly close to 5070. I doubt you would be able to tell them even with FPS counters enabled.

No, I meant 4070S.

4070S has 7168 cores, 5070 has only 6144 cores. That's a huge 17% gulf that a 40Mhz boost clock advantage isn't going to do anything against. I genuinely expect the 4070S to be faster than than a 5070 is just about everything that isn't MFG.

The 4070Ti was the unlaunched 4080 12GB, originally something Nvidia was trying to fleece us to the tune of $900 for.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

How bad we are to praise such a thing
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Gpu reviews in 2025 in a nutshell.... I can't wait to see the conclusion for the 5070...

Even though this is a terrible generational uplift there is 0 competition and there will be zero competition till AMD decides to replace the 7900XTX and let's be real the 6080 could be out by then.

 

[ventra]

Have a 3080, was thinking about upgrading but:

in 4K,
4080 is 18% faster than 3090 Ti, then
5080 is 13% slower than 4090

shall I still go get the 5080? I don't know anymore...

 

[Legacy-ZA]

Gpu reviews in 2025 in a nutshell.... I can't wait to see the conclusion for the 5070...

Even though this is a terrible generational uplift there is 0 competition and there will be zero competition till AMD decides to replace the 7900XTX and let's be real the 6080 could be out by then.

When you compare it at a hardware level, it's a 3070Ti, just with a new node and 4GB more VRAM, people really shouldn't expect much from this card, it will be faster, but by just how much, is the real question.

 

[DemonicRyzen666]

Nvidia needs to go backwards to go forwards right now Bring back shader clock & separate GPu core clock & add in RT core clocks with separate rend out puts for their own pipelines.

 

[AnotherReader]

Gpu reviews in 2025 in a nutshell.... I can't wait to see the conclusion for the 5070...

Even though this is a terrible generational uplift there is 0 competition and there will be zero competition till AMD decides to replace the 7900XTX and let's be real the 6080 could be out by then.

Seeing the poor uplift for this, I'm baffled by AMD's decision to go and sit in a corner. Just redoing a slightly larger 7900 XTX on N4 would have probably been enough to beat this.

 

[Chrispy_]

This is an interesting turn of events, the 5080 is barely faster than 4080s. Now AMD has delayed its 9070xt that was in around 4070ti super and 4080 performance range, just maybe AMD can eek abit more performance and edge past the 4080s and closer to 5080 with 500-600 price range then it could be a real winner. I hope this could happen but my gut feeling it most likely won’t happen.

Let's just hope AMD don't get greedy (again) and decide that FSR4 = DLSS4 and 4080-like performance justifies a 4080-like price tag.

A 330W 9070XT at $850 would be the biggest disappointment from AMD this decade, and that's saying a lot given how disappointing some of RTG's marketing decisions have been in the last few years.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

When you compare it at a hardware level, it's a 3070Ti, just with a new node and 4GB more VRAM, people really shouldn't expect much from this card, it will be faster, but by just how much, is the real question.

The last time I can remember gains this bad was the GTX 480 to 580.... At least that was just fixing the 400 series and didn't come 2 years later lol.

 

[mxthunder]

Seeing the poor uplift for this, I'm baffled by AMD's decision to go and sit in a corner. Just redoing a slightly larger 7900 XTX on N4 would have probably been enough to beat this.

So true. They chose the worst time to be lazy. Im sick of their crap too. Copycat, timid, and greedy at the same time.
Lets only compete in the mid range and take a break, while the competition barely improves, instead of trying hard and gaining some footing on them.

 

[Vya Domus]

Seeing the poor uplift for this, I'm baffled by AMD's decision to go and sit in a corner. Just redoing the 7900 XTX on N4 would have probably been enough to beat this.

It doesn't matter, you are missing the bigger picture. This customer base is at an all time difficulty to be displaced even by Nvidia themselves because even they now face the difficult task to convince people who 90% already bought their products to upgrade.

 

[AnotherReader]

The last time I can remember gains this bad was the GTX 480 to 580.... At least that was just fixing the 400 series and didn't come 2 years later lol.

At least, the 580 improved power consumption at the same time and launched only seven months after its infamous predecessor.

 

[LastDudeALive]

I noticed this myself, I definitely expected it to perform much better in Ray Tracing workloads, it's strange, perhaps a driver issue?

Certainly possible, there's been a number of those with the 5090 and 5080. I looked at the per-game numbers.

Identical performance with the 4080 Super at all resolutions in Doom Eternal. Maybe a driver issue? Although the 5090 didn't have an issue compared to the 4090. Doom's ray tracing probably just isn't demanding enough where better RT cores or bandwidth makes a difference at all, since it will run on a potato. So the essentially identical core count and architecture gives identical performance.

Elden Ring certainly seems to have a driver issue, or possibly the mod that uncaps the framerates doesn't work with the 50 series, both the 5090 and 5080 have huge performance regressions.

Resident Evil 4 is interesting. The RT seems entirely dependent on memory bandwidth, where the 5080 and 7900 XTX get identical performance with their identical memory bandwidth.

I wonder how the numbers look if you take out Doom Eternal and Elden Ring (especially since Elden Ring is obviously bugged), or maybe add in path tracing benchmarks. We'd probably see a bigger increase then.

 

[AnotherReader]

It doesn't matter, you are missing the bigger picture. This customer base is at an all time difficulty to displace even by Nvidia themselves because even they now face the difficult task to convince people who 90% already bought their products to upgrade.

I get what you're saying, but they have the IP to convincingly beat the 5080 and probably even the 4090. Doing so would have been beneficial for the rest of the lineup.

 

[regs]

Let's bench beyond 4K.

Pls

Pls

I beg

Use DSR

5K2K

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Seeing the poor uplift for this, I'm baffled by AMD's decision to go and sit in a corner. Just redoing a slightly larger 7900 XTX on N4 would have probably been enough to beat this.

Honestly that's the biggest dissappointment AMD ditched the high end at the wrong time Nvidia just phoned in this generation my guess is somthing didn't work out with 3N likely because the B100/200 were rushed to keep margins super high....

 

[SilentPeace]

That's what you get when people are buying RTX 4060 Ti 16GB and RTX 4070 in big numbers and even praise it as a good product at the same time. Nvidia sees it and spits in consumers faces immediately!

I got the 4060 Ti 16GB on sale for not significantly more than the 8GB is now going for so I think it was a fair deal. Like they say there's no bad cards, only bad prices. It will last a few years at least for 1080p gaming at a decent level, it's very efficient, cool and quiet and that's all I want.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

At least, the 580 improved power consumption at the same time and launched only seven months after its infamous predecessor.

Yeah, I only mentioned it because it wasn't a ton faster than 400 series lol. My perception of 500 series is way better than 5000 series kinda funny that it's 400-500/4000-5000 though lol.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

Yeah right, because otherwise Huang would have given you a 5090 for 500$. Let's not kid ourselves, Nvidia is notorious for trying to rip you off even when there was competition.

So I guess that kepler, maxwell, and pascal, the cards everyone talking about the best $/perf cards ever, just didnt exist in your mind then? The $500 680 and $700 1080ti just evaporated into the wind?

Or are those now retroactively recontextualized as "ripoffs"?

Man this is the first time that an xx80 gpu lose to the best previous gen GPU from Nvidia.

Oh well at least the price to perf and power efficiency went up by 10%,the 5080 also has more than 10% OC headroom LOL.

Honestly I'm OK with it, stagnation means longer lifespans for our current hardware.

Maybe Nvidia should just kept selling RTX4000 series for another 2 years

They basically have, the 5080 is a discounted 4080 with 10% perf over the Super.

 

[LastDudeALive]

It seems like RT improvements stopped. They added specific features to it that I suppose games would need to take advantage of (like SER) but raw RT perfomance has stagnated as well.
I mean when 20 series dropped everybody was saying to give it some time then when you turn on RT, there won't be performance penalty, it will be like Tesselation. But we are now on 50 series and that hasn't happened.
Hard to say why exactly since Nvidia keeps shut what RT cores are exactly doing, its a secret.

EDIT

Just checked Guru3d review as they have 3dmark Port Royale and DXR benchmarks and improvement in Port Royale is there but not as much as from 3080 to 4080. And even more strange DXR perf is lower, must be some bug in either drivers or 3dmark.

I looked at the review numbers again. It seems the RT numbers are dragged down from identical performance in Doom Eternal (which is so lightweight it doesn't need more memory bandwidth or better cores for RT, even at 4k), and Elden Ring (which obviously has either a driver issue with the game or the mod that uncaps the framerate, since the 5090 and 5080 have huge generational regressions). If you take out those two games (or at least the obviously faulty Elden Ring), the gen-on-gen RT improvement probably looks much better.

 

[AnotherReader]

Honestly that's the biggest dissappointment AMD ditched the high end at the wrong time Nvidia just phoned in this generation my guess is somthing didn't work out with 3N likely because the B100/200 were rushed to keep margins super high....

Nvidia usually isn't the first to jump on new nodes though N3 is mature by now. AMD used to be among the first on the leading edge nodes, but with the stranglehold of the fruity company on new nodes, that has come to an end too.