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This is an interesting turn of events, the 5080 is barely faster than 4080s. Now AMD has delayed its 9070xt that was in around 4070ti super and 4080 performance range, just maybe AMD can eek abit more performance and edge past the 4080s and closer to 5080 with 500-600 price range then it could be a real winner. I hope this could happen but my gut feeling it most likely won’t happen.

Unless the 9070XT die size is quite smaller than a 5080 (378mm^2), I doubt it. If nvidia is massively up-charging AIBs for dies, and the rumored/estimated 9070xt die being ~390mm^2, they’re either selling at a loss (AMD) or Nvidia is making a killing.
 
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As for this launch, guess for now I'll just keep recommend the 40x0 gen of nVidias , any time the prices lower due to discounts, for anyone still on Turing or earlier.

For three months now the prices of 40x0 gen are rising - Nvidia announced end of production a while ago, and it looks good for the new generation if the previous generation is not discounted (as it has been like forever - it's 2 years old), but is sold above MSRP, even though nobody's buying!

Market is really screwed up.
 

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Complete garbage. Would be better off not releasing anything.

Worse power efficiency than last gen, 20-40% more expensive and barely scraping double digit percentage gains...reference model will be unobtainium within minutes of release and out of stock for months, leaving only the overpriced aftermarket variants already priced at $1100+. And this isn't taking into account the tariffs that will potentially add another 20% to the cost. But I hope the Nvidia cheerleaders are happy -- because this is the future they truly deserve.
 
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I was hoping this would be a good upgrade from my 6800XT but I wasn't inspired by the minimal uplift of the 5090 and just like the 5090, the 5080 is not a significant uplift from the previous generation. Slower than the last generation 90 series is quite the downgrade in per generation performance. For context, the bog standard 4080 was 14% faster than the 3090 Ti when it came out. This generation it's flipped and the 4090 is 11% faster than the 5080.

This is not a sufficient enough upgrade for me to justify the cost(2x performance for ~same cost). Looks like I'll have to wait for a 5080 Ti or Super based off the 5090's cut down die, though I may not even get one of those, depending on their price. Might just keep my 6800XT for another 2 years.
 

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Each time I buy a new GPU, close to a new gen is released, that new gen turn horrendous... I bought a used 1080ti for 450usd a week before the 20 series release (with 2 years left of warranty) and I bought a a new 7900xt for 550usd during black friday last november...
At least, there is hope for people wanting a new GPU that AMD make me regret my last purchase by releasing the 9070xt at a great price, but if all the leaks are of any indications, they won't...
 
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RTX 50 Series officially joins my RTX 40 and RTX 20 Series absurd p/p award.
At least 20 series had the novel promise of ray tracing, the features we are promised now are "just click the button bro you'll get 100 more frames, trust me bro, it's amazing".
 
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All i'll say is, I hope the cost of adding RT and Tensor cores for the RT/Path Tracing lovers out there was worth it. Nvidia are certainly milking you for all it's worth.
 
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No. RTX 2000 series provided even less uplift per dollar at the time.

RTX 4080 was launched for 1200 USD (=1270 USD in today's money, a.k.a. 127% of 5080's price).
RTX 5080 is about 115% as fast as 4080.

127% * 115% = 146%. We surprisingly received 46% more value for our money. Not impressive but it's definitely not bad considering all cicrumstances.
I see a lot of people posting this but that's only because the 4080 was 500$ more expensive than the 3080 and was so shockingly bad in value that they cut prices by $200 for the super. We all know $1200 for the 4080 was a joke to begin with and the super at $1000 is a better comparison IMO.

So this is at best a 12% perf and perf/$ improvement when comparing MSRP's. That's frankly pathetic tbh
 
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a next gen 5080 should beat the the previous gen xx90
There was a time where the x60 gpu surpased previous gen flagship, then it went up to the x70 gpu, and today not even the x80, i mean it does not even match it! LOL!
 
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Loses the same or even more performance % with RT on. New RT cores my *ss...
Despite more then 2x AI TOPS performance, only 0,1 sec gains in LLM test? It should be faster than 4090 in AI apps according to the stats.
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This entire generation is a scam...
 
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Well, not the uplift we wanted, maybe the most interesting card will be the 5070Ti.

I can't believe the 5080 got the 4060ti treatment smh.

Small generational improvement. check
Sometimes loses to the 4080 S. check
Biggest change is a form of FG. check

The RT gains are even more disappointing

It also seems to share the same cpu overhead issues of the 5090.
 
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Staying on an slight optimized 5nm node renamed to 4nm didn't help with performance, shock.

Good to see that intel is still winning most of the GPU idle benchmarks /s
 
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Real name: Geforce RTX 4080 Ti Super Ultra :pimp:
 
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At least 3080/3080 Ti was a cut-down big chip, not an overpriced mid-sized chip with 256bit bus.
True, the 3080Ti was a 384 bit bus card with a big chip, the 5080 with a 256 bit bus should be the 5070Ti.
Unless the 9070XT die size is quite smaller than a 5080 (378mm^2), I doubt it. If nvidia is massively up-charging AIBs for dies, and the rumored/estimated 9070xt die being ~390mm^2, they’re either selling at a loss (AMD) or Nvidia is making a killing.
MSI confirmed the supply of 5080 and 5090 dies are being limited by Nvidia, so Nvidia has to be making an absolute killing.
 
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I can't believe the 5080 got the 4060ti treatment smh.
That's what you get when people are buying RTX 4060 Ti 16GB and RTX 4070 in big numbers and even praise it as a good product at the same time. Nvidia sees it and spits in consumers faces immediately!
 
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We'll see where the prices will stabilise at but so far the price is on par with the 4080S, which is better than what I expected, so there's a win I suppose. But sure it's not much progress really, but personally I sort of think that is over in general.
 
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That's what you get when people are buying RTX 4060 Ti 16GB and RTX 4070 in big numbers and even praise it as a good product at the same time. Nvidia sees it and spits in consumers faces immediately!

The more depressing part is this is still going to be the second fastest card likely till late 2026/early 2027... Unless it gets the super treatment. 4090 is eol and crazy expensive other than possibly on the used market but this isn't gonna help lower its prices lol.

#awesomecompetiton if anyone wants faster than last generation coming from an older generations their options are still only Nvidia.
 
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Unless the 9070XT die size is quite smaller than a 5080 (378mm^2), I doubt it. If nvidia is massively up-charging AIBs for dies, and the rumored/estimated 9070xt die being ~390mm^2, they’re either selling at a loss (AMD) or Nvidia is making a killing.
Intel is also selling a card with a 272 mm^2 die for a quarter of this. Your second supposition is correct; Nvidia is making a killing. As for the 5080 itself, as expected, it improves marginally upon the 4080. For context, the 4070 Super was a bigger improvement over the 4070 than this is compared to the 4080. As for RDNA4, that 390 mm^2 is probably an overestimate; others have landed closer to 300 mm^2, but we'll see in about two months time.
 
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We'll see where the prices will stabilise at but so far the price is on par with the 4080S, which is better than what I expected, so there's a win I suppose. But sure it's not much progress really, but personally I sort of think that is over in general.

There is a lot of talk from AIB partners that this round Nvidia went too low with their MSRP, that we won't see Reference Editions in any significant numbers - because numbers of chips are limited, and partners would rather sell more expensive SKUs that have higher profit...

And there is of course price increase due to scarcity, which will step into effect very quickly.

MSRP will be as much of a thing as during Cryptomadness, it seems... So we should wait at applauding Nvidia for releasing a 10% faster 4080 Super for the same amount one year later...
 
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