Ada $1,000 vs Blackwell $1,000. That's pretty much what gen on gen is.
This, 100%.
Baffling that anyone is even remotely trying to justify the 5080. I remember people trying to justify why the 4060Ti is a good card when it was barely any faster than 3060Ti. This is no different, just without a node advantage.
I just don't see why people do it. Like if something is shite, call it out. Don't buy it, don't praise it, defend it, nothing. It's that simple but nooo, go ahead and enable nvidia's anemic progress and give them your $. Smh
There's no need to keep bringing the 7900 XT up. Everybody knows it was a crappy offer, just like the 7700 XT.
Still, where's the 40% you mentioned?
I'll tell you what the lines of defence are and honestly this needs to stop now, it's universally established that the 5080 is terrible progress gen on gen. No amount of defense will sway the ones who think that, and the ones who are defending are essentially wasting their time but whatever.
1) 4080 was $1200, this is 12% faster for $200 less which gives their 38% or whatever perf/$ uplift. Ignore the fact that nvidia lowered the price because it was that terrible and released the 4080S for $1000. No no, must compare it to the 4080 which was so badly priced that it was rotting in shelves. Hell, at least 5 different shops tried to sell me a 4080 when I went to buy USB drives or something random. It was a strange time. Anyway, here's an example that should hopefully put a stop to this nonsense.
Nvidia released the GTX 280 for $650 because, you know, greed and they thought they had it and left AMD in the dust. Fast forward one month and AMD launched the 4870 and 4850 which came close to it's performance with half the die size and cost. What did nvidia do? They were forced to lower the price from $650 to $500 in a month.
Then when the GTX 480 released it was pretty terrible and got bashed pretty hard in reviews when it launched at $500. Now do you think anyone defended it because hey, the GTX280 launched at $650 so this must be a good deal at $500? No, there were no grounds because the GTX280 was lowered to $500 which effectively became it's MSRP. When there's a MSRP correction, that becomes the baseline. Nvidia corrected it to $1000, so that's what this will be compared against. Bringing up $1200 4080 price to make the 5080 look good is gasping at straws.|
edit: 5080S is reserved for comparisons to the 4080S? Nope, 5080S is to be compared to 5080 to see if there's a meaningful upgrade. If comparing gen on gen, both 5080S and 5080 will be compared to 4080S. That's the best nvidia had in that class in the prior gen. At the end of the day you can make all the comparisons you want, but the fact remains that this is a terrible gen on gen uplift. No two ways about it really
