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[10tothemin9volts]

Woke up at 4AM, can't sleep, too much work. [..]

If I can't fall asleep I usually take some magnesium and/or melatonin (~100µg), which almost always works. Both are essential (nutrients). I head a magnesium deficiency is not uncommon. But even before that: Get some sunlight, it improves mood my increasing the serotonin levels, and then the serotonin at night gets converted into melatonin.
I'm not a big fan of any kind of teas or herb, mainly because (if) they don't contain the building blocks for the body and work differently, but I'm not saying they can work, just would try the actuall essential nutrients stuff first.

[..] but feels like both sides had an overreaction. [..]

One is tired of spam, one is tired from lack of sleep. Not a good combo.

I also think both overreacted. Of course I don't know if there was any history before which lead to it. The tone wasn't like nice, but it was constructive criticism and still ok considering he was registered for 20 years and just maybe got tired of the spam. Saying he wanted his acc to be deleted..maybe he didn't expect it to actually be happening or he wanted to move on and forcing it was the only solution (didn't find a acc delete option after a quick glance), actually pretty sure he could have asked more nicely for someone delete his acc.

 

[Toothless]

If I can't fall asleep I usually take some magnesium and/or melatonin (~100µg), which almost always works. Both are essential (nutrients). I head a magnesium deficiency is not uncommon. But even before that: Get some sunlight, not only does it improve mood, it increases the serotonin levels, which at night gets converted into melatonin.
I'm not a big fan of any kind of teas or herb, mainly because (if) they don't contain the building blocks for the body and work differently, but I'm not saying they can work, just would try the actuall essential nutrients stuff first.


I also think both overreacted. Of course I don't know if there was any history before which lead to it. The tone wasn't like nice, but it was constructive criticism and still ok considering he was registered for 20 years and just maybe got tired of the spam. Saying he wanted his acc to be deleted..maybe he didn't expect it to actually be happening or he wanted to move on and forcing it was the only solution (didn't find a acc delete option after a quick glance), actually pretty sure he could have asked more nicely.

There was so much room to defuse the whole thing and I'm honestly a bit disgusted on some of the reactions to the whole thing. All of it was blown out way more than it should've.

 

[FoulOnWhite]

What move? Sure, his tone was uncalled for, but I do think there was a bit of overreaction on both sides. This calamity could have easily been avoided with some honest conversation. Shame people don't do that nowadays.

Edit: Also, it's often the people shouting the loudest who are in need of someone to ask "are you okay? Do you want to talk?" Now, that won't happen.

I can fully understnd that, and W1z will know what i mean.

I do think there was some room for thought before Tofus just delete my account then, kinda like something a petulant kid would say. overall a bit strange i think.

 

[AusWolf]

There was so much room to defuse the whole thing and I'm honestly a bit disgusted on some of the reactions to the whole thing. All of it was blown out way more than it should've.

I agree. At least asking "are you okay, mate?" would have been nice. We should take care of each other if we really call ourselves a community, imo.

Who knows, he could have been drunk, and maybe for a reason. My mind hasn't been in the best of places, and I've been way more irritable since I lost my mom 4 months ago, I'm not ashamed to admit.

 

[Toothless]

I agree. At least asking "are you okay, mate?" would have been nice. We should take care of each other if we really call ourselves a community, imo.

Who knows, he could have been drunk, and maybe for a reason. My mind hasn't been in the best of places, and I've been way more irritable since I lost my mom 4 months ago, I'm not ashamed to admit.

Hope you're doing alright bud. My wife and I had to leave work today as my sister was in a hit and run. Luckily just some pulled muscles was the worst of it. Definitely a mental state shake.

 

[Onasi]

I mean, I find the drama a bit… overblown? If Tofu decides he actually wants to return, isn’t making a new account fairly easy? Sure, he will lose the post counts he had, but since he has good reputation on the forum just naming the account similarly and shouting out that he is back on the personal wall would be enough, no? Not like the forum account, however old, has any real intrinsic value tied to it.
But yeah, the whole thing was an overreaction on multiple parties part. Then again, he did request a deletion and W1zz kinda has to honor that as an admin by default.

 

[AusWolf]

Hope you're doing alright bud. My wife and I had to leave work today as my sister was in a hit and run. Luckily just some pulled muscles was the worst of it.

Thanks, I manage. My sleep pattern is still nonexistent, I'm basically on autopilot, but hey, that's better than nothing, right? I appreciate the question.
All I'm saying is, a question like that costs nothing, but can save a soul sometimes. Shame to lose a valued forum member just like this.
I hope your sister is ok and recovers quickly.

 

[Chomiq]

Love people just jumping to conclusion and making up bullshit theories about someone's behavior.

Last time same kiddo/troll started posting in build section I just reported every post they made, problem was solved within 20min.

 

[AusWolf]

I mean, I find the drama a bit… overblown? If Tofu decides he actually wants to return, isn’t making a new account fairly easy? Sure, he will lose the post counts he had, but since he has good reputation on the forum just naming the account similarly and shouting out that he is back on the personal wall would be enough, no? Not like the forum account, however old, has any real intrinsic value tied to it.
But yeah, the whole thing was an overreaction on multiple parties part. Then again, he did request a deletion and W1zz kinda has to honor that as an admin by default.

If I ask you to punch me in the face, will you honor it? When a conversation gets heated, taking a step back is usually the right thing to do, as opposed to (mis)using one's power.

 

[KrazyT]

Now I know who is Dawn Hikari
But what the problem with Hippo ?

I guess it's the usual fare of the forums.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

What move?

His move asking for his account to be deleted. He wont be able to get it back due to GDPR as W1zzard stated.

 

[Onasi]

If I ask you to punch me in the face, will you honor it? When a conversation gets heated, taking a step back is usually the right thing to do, as opposed to (mis)using one's power.

Just so we’re clear - do you unironically draw parallels between actual physical violence and losing a worthless account on an internet forum?

And there was no heated conversation. There are literally 4 (that’s four) relevant posts - he opened a thread where he rather rudely called out W1zz for his running of the site, W1zz noted that he could have worded that inquiry in a more polite way, then Tofu for no reason imploded and asked for an account deletion which W1zz provided. That’s it. There was nothing else. W1zz absolutely isn’t obliged to ask him ten times if he is sure and play therapy to try to talk him off the ledge. It’s a fucking forum account. It’s not that deep and not that important.

 

[mb194dc]

Surely can just change XenForo settings to prevent new users spamming ?

With the minimum time between messages setting combined with groups, so only new users who aren't spamming, get promoted after 5 posts to group without the flood restriction? So newly registered accounts can't them spam before mods can stop them?

No need for drama, we can all live in internet peace.

 

[AusWolf]

Just so we’re clear - do you unironically draw parallels between actual physical violence and losing a worthless account on an internet forum?

If our accounts are worthless, then why are we here?

And there was no heated conversation. There are literally 4 (that’s four) relevant posts - he opened a thread where he rather rudely called out W1zz for his running of the site, W1zz noted that he could have worded that inquiry in a more polite way, then Tofu for no reason imploded and asked for an account deletion which W1zz provided. That’s it. There was nothing else. W1zz absolutely isn’t obliged to ask him ten times if he is sure and play therapy to try to talk him off the ledge. It’s a fucking forum account. It’s not that deep and not that important.

Yes, he was rude, there's no doubt about that.
All I'm saying is that I've lashed out in a rude way and regretted it later countless times. A sincere question "are you ok?" can save both parties from such regret, among other consequences.
It's not called playing therapy. It's called being human.

 

[Countryside]

Not sure if I appreciate the tone?

 

[inquisitor1]

I dont see any of those spam posts so the team is on top of it

 

[Onasi]

If our accounts are worthless, then why are we here?

To banter? If my account magically was deleted, I would just create a new one called Onasi v2: Electric Boogaloo, put on the same profile pic and carry on. The account itself has no meaning.

Yes, he was rude, there's no doubt about that.
All I'm saying is that I've lashed out in a rude way and regretted it later countless times. A sincere question "are you ok?" can save both parties from such regret, among other consequences

It’s an internet forum. The conversation isn’t real time. You can re-read what you post and reconsider. Or even edit after the fact, adding a disclaimer that you were maybe out of line. It’s not hard. If one brings their own personal baggage or real life issues into their anonymous posts on a tech forum - that’s their problem. And so are the “regrets” one might have due to this. You might call me out for having no compassion in this case… you would be right.

 

[AusWolf]

To banter? If my account magically was deleted, I would just create a new one called Onasi v2: Electric Boogaloo, put on the same profile pic and carry on. The account itself has no meaning.

It has meaning: it is a form of identity. At home, you're a husband, father (presumably - just an example), at the supermarket, you're a customer, at work, you're an employee working at X, and on here, you're Onasi.

The only difference is that an online identity is more fluid and easier to delete.

It’s an internet forum. The conversation isn’t real time. You can re-read what you post and reconsider. Or even edit after the fact, adding a disclaimer that you were maybe out of line.

One more reason not to do anything rash based on one comment.

It’s not hard. If one brings their own personal baggage or real life issues into their anonymous posts on a tech forum - that’s their problem. And so are the “regrets” one might have due to this. You might call me out for having no compassion in this case… you would be right.

Everyone has baggage. Even W1zz admitted being tired due to too much work. If you don't care, that's your thing. In my opinion, though, that's the line that separates a community from a bunch of shitposting idiots.

 

[Red Hood]

I agree. At least asking "are you okay, mate?" would have been nice. We should take care of each other if we really call ourselves a community, imo.

Who knows, he could have been drunk, and maybe for a reason. My mind hasn't been in the best of places, and I've been way more irritable since I lost my mom 4 months ago, I'm not ashamed to admit.

Sorry to hear about your mum, may she rest in peace

The world would be better place if more people embraced common courtesy and being considerate of others

 

[FoulOnWhite]

Everyone has a bad day sometimes. We get to know forum members, in a way their forum personality. A off kilter post would normally be noticed as out of character. I haven't followed SFT so not sure if his post was out of charcter or not.

Also, if your forum account does not matter, why come here and post at all? so if you are here and have a post count higher than 1, your forum accont does matter to you.

 

[freeagent]

Ahh SFT.. why buddy why?

Yea this guy we have been chasing for a few days now is pretty.. enthusiastic about his work.

 

[W1zzard]

If my account magically was deleted

Only when you request it, which is what happened here. Anything else that you do could get you banned, but the account wouldn't be deleted. You may also request "delete without deletion" (addition-related), or "ban me until some day in the future, so I can't log back in during withdrawals"

 

[ShrimpBrime]

If I ask you to punch me in the face, will you honor it?

Fuck around and find out. Knock a MF out, no problem.

I asked for account deletion, W1z doesn't hesitate. It's how he handles the shit. Poof it was gone.

Honor the Carneia!

 

[Klemc]

I will sit here until it's all fixed.

 

[BMfan80]

Only when you request it, which is what happened here.

When I asked a few years ago, I was told by a mod you can't.