AMD Radeon RX 9070 and 9070 XT Listed On Amazon - One Buyer Snags a Unit

[RandallFlagg]

Dude any one of us can counter that one with a look at previous gen pricing.
Nothing is available so the moment anything drops, it gets scalped all to hell.
6950XTs all MIA but 6900XT now 2-4x old refurb prices. Look at this bullshit:

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Guys, just don't buy GPUs in February. It's bad for business and further encourages this garbage.
I understand if you found something $50-100 for production but this is a different class entirely.
There will still be signs of it in March but if the inventory is high enough, it won't be a problem.

Just to add to this, Tom's had pricing posted back in Jan along with best price seen.

It is kind of frozen in time right now, which is good b/c you can see what the pricing was just before the supply dried up.

To give an example of how bad it is right now, the 7800 XT listed here at $489 links to a product that costs $812.
Edit: I should add, even the 'current price' here seems about 5%-10% elevated from where it was in say December. I base that on the 7800 XT which I had been eyeing, could fairly easily be found for $450 with sometimes a special down to $400-$430. So by Jan, best price was ~10% higher.

I'm posting both their AMD and Nvidia charts for reference.

 

[Super XP]

The marketing guy for AMD said that the rumoured pricing that was populating all over the internet of around $800 is not the price AMD had in mind and therefore to take rumours with a grain of salt. Now if I can only find that tweet on X where he said this. My prediction stands at $549 for the XT base model and $449 for the non XT model. That's if AMD is interested in gaining market share. I mean, these cards have been out since December 2024, they've been stuffing retail channels since then.

And to confirm, the RX 9070 XT is supposed to replace the 7700XT.

Leaked prices are both for 9070 and 5070Ti. Frank Azor twitted that there should not be $900 RDNA4 cards on shelves. We will confirm this in a few days.

Yes that is the tweet where he stated $899 RNDA4 will not exist. If AMD follows its RDNA2 and 3 pricing scheme, they will not gain market share, they will probably continue to lose it. As they've not learned from their past mishaps. lol

 

[Bomby569]

Leaked prices are both for 9070 and 5070Ti. Frank Azor twitted that there should not be $900 RDNA4 cards on shelves. We will confirm this in a few days.

Frank Azor is the guy famous for is lying tweets so you know you can trust a liar, that's how the world works after all.

 

[Tek-Check]

Yes that is the tweet where he stated $899 RNDA4 will not exist. If AMD follows its RDNA2 and 3 pricing scheme, they will not gain market share, they will probably continue to lose it. As they've not learned from their past mishaps. lol

We don't know what's going to happen once cards are released. Everybody simply just need to wait and see.

 

[Bomby569]

also 25% tariffs on chips incoming

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/19/economy/us-new-tariff-plans-trump-intl-hnk/index.html

 

[Tek-Check]

Frank Azor is the guy famous for is lying tweets so you know you can trust a liar, that's how the world works after all.

also 25% tariffs on chips incoming

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/19/economy/us-new-tariff-plans-trump-intl-hnk/index.html

He said it officially, so if you have any dirty water to pour over him, you will be able to do it once cards are released. Simple. He can be held accountable for those words. So, don't jump too early, if you are not able to fly.

Different tariffs are planned, but not yet enacted. Those tariffs have nothing to do with Frank. Sorry to disappoint you. All complaints to the government.

 

[Bomby569]

He said it officially, so if you have any dirty water to pour over him, you will be able to do it once cards are released. Simple. He can be held accountable for those words. So, don't jump too early, if you are not able to fly.

Different tariffs are planned, but not yet enacted. Those tariffs have nothing to do with Frank. Sorry to disappoint you. All complaints to the government.

no, the point is you are taking a liar to his word. We do know the present, no one knows the future.
The tariffs will make the pricing even less likely, Trump usually does what he says.

 

[Tek-Check]

My prediction stands at $549 for the XT base model and $449 for the non XT model.

This is never going to happen. Forget about it.

We have seen only one or two 5070Ti models at MSRP. Majority of shiny AIB models will be selling for $900-1,000. Reality check.

Why would 9070XT ever be almost twice as cheap? Complete nonsense.

That's if AMD is interested in gaining market share.

We don't know this. Unwarranted and ill-mannered assumption.

And to confirm, the RX 9070 XT is supposed to replace the 7700XT

No. 9070XT replaces 7800XT and 9070 replaces 7700XT.

When will people finally learn this once and for all?

the point is you are taking a liar to his word. We do know the present, no one knows the future.

The point is that you don't know what's going to happen with prices and performance, and yet you are willing to give it a negative spin from the outset.

You, like everybody else, will simply have to wait and see for yourself, without assumptions.

 

[Bomby569]

The point is that you don't know what's going to happen with prices and performance, and yet you are willing to give it a negative spin from the outset.

You, like everybody else, will simply have to wait and see for yourself, without assumptions.

this is my last comment on this, I'm commenting on facts, your commenting on leaks and a know liar's words. Take from it whatever you want.

 

[DaemonForce]

Why would 9070XT ever be almost twice as cheap? Complete nonsense.

Prev gen stock products are MIA and prices are not coming down.
9070XT inventory has been loaded for quite some time, burning cash by being a (expen$ive) storage glutton.
One month of sleeping on this market is upsetting customers, turning them away.
Two months of no driver releases means there's ZERO development and we're engaged in a price war AND storage war.
Flip a coin and guess whether or not nvidia can even get decent volume competition in the door.

The point is that you don't know what's going to happen with prices and performance, and yet you are willing to give it a negative spin from the outset.

I know that waiting like this isn't worth it and for once I'm willing to say this entire situation is on AMD.
You don't gain popularity by dragging your feet at the retail stage, upsetting customers, upsetting retailers and upsetting disgruntled nvidia customers that want a change.

 

[Tek-Check]

see like i said it's subjective, i'm fine with it. Those are the subjective part, no one is right or wrong here.
Unfortunately AMD just prices their cards at a couple usd less and you'll stay a minority until they change that. Those are the facts.

this is my last comment on this, I'm commenting on facts, your commenting on leaks and a know liar's words. Take from it whatever you want.

You don't need to add further comments, of course. Your choice, but you will not get away with this generic reasoning because it's not accurate and it lacks nuance. If you prefer to pay 50, 100, 200, ... more for Nvidia cards, for whatever reason, that's fine. Your money, your choices. It is also true that AMD priced some cards stupidly, such as 7900XT for $900. I totally agree with this.

However, it's not correct to suggest generically that "AMD just prices their cards at a couple usd less". Those are not "facts". Complete BS. 7900XTX was priced $200 less than 4080. That's not "a few bucks", I am afraid. When we post generic opinions, we always run into risk of not accounting for specific products that are actually well priced and good, no matter which company release it.

Prev gen stock products are MIA and prices are not coming down. 9070XT inventory has been loaded for quite some time, burning cash by being a (expen$ive) storage glutton. One month of sleeping on this market is upsetting customers, turning them away. Two months of no driver releases means there's ZERO development and we're engaged in a price war AND storage war. Flip a coin and guess whether or not nvidia can even get decent volume competition in the door.

Sure, but none of those explains or justifies the suggestion that 9070XT should costs almost twice as cheap as 5070Ti. It's still nonsense to suggest that.

I know that waiting like this isn't worth it and for once I'm willing to say this entire situation is on AMD.
You don't gain popularity by dragging your feet at the retail stage, upsetting customers, upsetting retailers and upsetting disgruntled nvidia customers that want a change.

Disgruntled Nvidia customers that want a change are more than welcome to pay $900 and $1,000 for shiny 5070Ti cards, if they are not able to control their infantile impulses and wait for new cards from the competitior. This behaviour says more about their personalities than about AMD. The world is not of fire. The fire is in their minds.

 

[TPUnique]

Disgruntled Nvidia customers that want a change are more than welcome to pay $900 and $1,000 for shiny 5070Ti cards, if they are not able to control their infantile impulses and wait for new cards from the competitior. This behaviour says more about their personalities than about AMD. The world is not of fire. The fire is in their minds.

You're essentially exonerating AMD for royally messing up their launch, it's pretty sad.

 

[Bomby569]

You're essentially exonerating AMD for royally messing up their launch, it's pretty sad.

this is the time AMD will finally saves us all. Lets have faith brothers, amen

 

[RandallFlagg]

I don't get why people think these cards will match up to a 5070 Ti.

Based on its specs, it's a slightly upgraded 7800XT wearing a 70 / 700 series badge posing as next gen. Unless RDNA 4 is bringing a world of IPC increases, which I see no reason to believe, I would guess 5-10% improvement vs 7800 XT slotting in as a 7700 XT bracket replacement.

That's going to place it around 7900 GRE levels, not 5070 Ti which sits above the 7900 XTX. The normal 5070 will have greater memory bandwidth despite a smaller 192 bit buss, bigger increases in core counts, and more of an architectural boost (which is already showing in leaked compute benchmarks). I would expect it to decisively beat the 9070 XT.

 

[Rover4444]

No. 9070XT replaces 7800XT and 9070 replaces 7700XT.

Yep, and they should price it as such If the MSRP comes anywhere close to these listings it's DOA.

I don't get why people think these cards will match up to a 5070 Ti.

Based on its specs, it's a slightly upgraded 7800XT wearing a 70 / 700 series badge posing as next gen. Unless RDNA 4 is bringing a world of IPC increases, which I see no reason to believe, I would guess 5-10% improvement vs 7800 XT slotting in as a 7700 XT bracket replacement.

That's going to place it around 7900 GRE levels, not 5070 Ti which sits above the 7900 XTX. The normal 5070 will have greater memory bandwidth despite a smaller 192 bit buss, bigger increases in core counts, and more of an architectural boost (which is already showing in leaked compute benchmarks). I would expect it to decisively beat the 9070 XT.

I get why you'd be sceptical, but RDNA 3 was a flawed architecture from the beginning. I'm willing to believe the clock increases, node shrink, and fixed architecture would get it to 7900 XT performance minimum.

 

[Tek-Check]

You're essentially exonerating AMD for royally messing up their launch, it's pretty sad.

It's pretty sad that you are talking about something that is about to happen in the past tense. There's nothing to exonerate for. Nonsense.

If anyone has royally messed the entire paper launch is Nvidia, I am afraid. There's a complete meltdown in tech community, $$how with confusing communication, lack of availability, bogus MSRP, extortionately expensive cards, etc. etc. etc.

The worst launch many have seen in a decade. It's mind-boggling what they have done when nobody had ever forced them to launch at CES knowing they didn't have any meaningful volume of cards available

Absolutely disgraceful treatment of gaming community from one of the richest companies in the world. They try to copy Apple, but they can learn from them a thing or two as to how to launch a product line globally and properly.

I am quite glad that AMD didn't do the same thing. They should launch when global volume is ready and available for anyone to go to a shop and buy a card.

this is the time AMD will finally saves us all. Lets have faith brothers, amen

I am afaird they are not anyone's savour. They are a business. If you need a Savour, you know where to look.

Yep, and they should price it as such If the MSRP comes anywhere close to these listings it's DOA.

DOA or not DOA, leave to buyers to decide.

5070 Ti which sits above the 7900 XTX.

Does it? How did it get there?

The normal 5070 will have greater memory bandwidth despite a smaller 192 bit buss, bigger increases in core counts, and more of an architectural boost (which is already showing in leaked compute benchmarks). I would expect it to decisively beat the 9070 XT

Interesting. We will come back to this discussion in two weeks.

RDNA 3 was a flawed architecture from the beginning. I'm willing to believe the clock incre

Have you ever used RDNA3 card or played games with it?

 

[EmmanuelMar]

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EmmanuelMar said:
I see it using GDDR7 because each module is 3GB and GDDR6 2GB.11 slot x3 gb=33gb
17 x 2=34gb 7900 xtx 24 gb =12 slot memory gaming
https://www.amd.com/es/products/graphics/radeon-for-creators.html
https://www.amd.com/es/products/graphics/workstations/radeon-pro/w7900.html =48gb
gpu radeon Pro serie9000 gddr7 = 64gb next step

gpu gaming radeon XTX 32 gb ....yes gddr7

What? Just use 16x 2GB chips to get 32GB, nothing more special.

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Let me explain, a GPU has a limited space to put GDDR modules therefore there is a base number and there you can only increase them in 2 ways, put the bottom of the board with modules but heat dissipation will be problematic or use clanshell which is to put module on module, you do not increase the bus but you increase the size of capacity..... It is also problematic for heat dissipation.

 

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What? Just use 16x 2GB chips to get 32GB, nothing more special.

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Let me explain, a GPU has a limited space to put GDDR modules therefore there is a base number and there you can only increase them in 2 ways, put the bottom of the board with modules but heat dissipation will be problematic or use clanshell which is to put module on module, you do not increase the bus but you increase the size of capacity..... It is also problematic for heat dissipation.

real estate issue, that's a lot of scape on the pcb