AMD Radeon RX 9070 and 9070 XT Listed On Amazon - One Buyer Snags a Unit

[Beermotor]

So much "omg the pricing" in this thread. We still don't know the MSRP so these could simply be cards listed by shady resellers to take a quick profit.

It could also be the same situation as with Nvidia where the AIBs are charging a 40-60% for what amounts to a custom cooler and a little overclocking.

It sucks all around. I'd really hate to be in the market for a GPU in 2025.

 

[Dahita]

So much "omg the pricing" in this thread. We still don't know the MSRP so these could simply be cards listed by shady resellers to take a quick profit.

It could also be the same situation as with Nvidia where the AIBs are charging a 40-60% for what amounts to a custom cooler and a little overclocking.

It sucks all around. I'd really hate to be in the market for a GPU in 2025.

We don't know the MSRP nor the performance. So yeah, just talking for the fun of talking!

 

[AusWolf]

So much "omg the pricing" in this thread. We still don't know the MSRP so these could simply be cards listed by shady resellers to take a quick profit.

It could also be the same situation as with Nvidia where the AIBs are charging a 40-60% for what amounts to a custom cooler and a little overclocking.

It sucks all around. I'd really hate to be in the market for a GPU in 2025.

Not to mention, we still don't know the actual retail pricing on the 5070 Ti.

 

[FiRe]

$850 for a mid-tier card, lmao

 

[LittleBro]

$850 for a mid-tier card, lmao

Perhaps take a look at prices of RTX 4070 (Ti) and upcoming RTX 5070 (Ti). TSMC is a luxury stuff nowadays.

Times of being able to get mid tier card for $299-$399 are definitely over.

Vote with your wallet. It might be wise to go back for 3-4 year hardware upgrade period as in the past. Newest games are PoS anyway ...

 

[Vayra86]

Found a rather interesting video, worth watching:

Oh god please no. Not this again. This fairy tale is now almost as old as I am.

This is audiophile grade level bullshit. I cAn SeE ThInGs!!1One.

Your comparison is false because 4070Ti is not a competitor to 7900xt

I really think it is though. 7900XT is certainly not competing with either the 4080 (S) or the 4070.

I've been playing 20-year games on a 780m igpu lately. My laptop comes with a 4070 laptop version, but I'm happy playing with the 780m igpu. Strange times, I would always buy top tier laptop versions but I'm happy with the igpu.


I'll take that blah blah blah with a some sugar and blue cheese dressing.

Graphics and triple A gaming has reached 'max stupid' and gone beyond into utter idiocy. Some people see this, others are so enslaved to the M.O. (which is: the sky's the limit, it can always be better/more/greater and look they even promise it, so its true) that they haven't figured it out yet. Its the same thing as in movies from a specific segment called Hollywood. Its beyond ridiculous content at this point, with its fanbase - a large one at that - but it has stagnated, recycling its own ideas and just throwing random shit together and calling it a multiverse or some other nonsense.

Its the content that focuses heavily on 'the things around the content' such as MTX, franchise-related gear, collectors items, 'events' that are really just more advertising, and monetization schemes outside the actual content's price. Its all about buying things so you can show off how much of a fan you are. The content itself is an afterthought - the sheep get it anyway. Its really the market catering to the bottom of intellect and a group that is unable to escape peer pressure & fomo.

 

[Legacy-ZA]

Oh god please no. Not this again. This fairy tale is now almost as old as I am.

I wouldn't be posting it, if you couldn't see the difference, watch it to completion. The guys "title" for his video needs work, I too was sceptical but I can see what he was trying to convey.

 

[Vayra86]

I wouldn't be posting it, if you couldn't see the difference, watch it to completion. The guys "title" for his video needs work, I too was sceptical but I can see what he was trying to convey.

Maybe you should be looking closer then, because you have A: no way to double check anything he's doing and B: the man's just rambling over two images that aren't even using the exact same viewport (camera position). Heck for all we know DLSS and FSR are using entirely different render resolutions, which, given the difference in viewports, seems very likely.

Also, the man's obviously avoiding the weak area of FSR, even 3, which is motion resolution, as we get a glorious 15 minutes of video looking at one location. If you want to have some fun making that video's opinion turn 180 degrees, check the way shadows trail under vehicles on FSR, where they do not on DLSS, for example. Even in a static image, DLSS is more stable with anything that is in motion, especially if its starting to move across the screen faster. FSR creates a smear effect where DLSS does not.

If you want I'll look at it again and spot a few more things to completely destroy the arguments made here.

FSR in Cyberpunk is absolute gutter trash and NO it does not give a better image, its an unstable mess. About as unstable as the guy's general sentence structure. He's just rambling.

 

[Contra]

I really think it is though. 7900XT is certainly not competing with either the 4080 (S) or the 4070.

4070Ti Super is a more "real"* competitor.
It's price min of 800-825$ without tax. Enjoy

*- still trash

 

[_roman_]

Also don't forget about VAT in countries - for example, the cheapest Arc B580 card doesn't cost $249,

Intel Arc B580 Specs

Intel BMG-G21, 2670 MHz, 2560 Cores, 160 TMUs, 80 ROPs, 12288 MB GDDR6, 2375 MHz, 192 bit

www.techpowerup.com

it costs 309 euros - that's not even 20% more, but 24%.

Intel Arc B580 Limited Edition ab € 309,00 (2025) | Preisvergleich Geizhals Deutschland

✔ Preisvergleich für Intel Arc B580 Limited Edition ✔ Bewertungen ✔ Produktinfo ⇒ Modell: Intel Arc B580 Graphics • Speicher: 12GB GDDR6, 192bit, 19Gbps, 2375MHz, 456GB/s • Takt Basis: un… ✔ PCIe ✔ Testberichte ✔ Günstig kaufen

geizhals.de

Can someone from USA give details.

I think USA have graphic card prices written without TAX.

19% germany, 20% is tax in austria. When it is only 24% more with € it's really damn good. Note: It is a multiplication by * 1.20 // or * 1.2

Therefore I think USA Dollar prices is always without tax.

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go on recommend 12GiB 4070TI Super. That VRAM will bite you sooner or later. Regardless of htose who will disagree.

 

[medi01]

If it performs lesser than a 7900XTX, then its a DoA at those prices.

Aha. People will go pay more for 12GB 5070 instead. Why notl

 

[Bomby569]

Aha. People will go pay more for 12GB 5070 instead. Why notl

do you have any doubt that the 5070 will outsell this card at those prices?
zero doubts

 

[medi01]

I think people do not fully realized where we are.

Annual major fab improvements are over. NVidia just rolled out 'next gen' that for the most part is like the last gen. And it sells it for more than last gen. (MSRP is fake)

If AMD offers 7900XT perf for $700 it is still a good deal.
(old stock being sold for less does not matter, does it?)

Also, if there a no fab improvements, cards will last longer.
You'll upgrade even less frequently.
Which means even less money flowing into the business.

So, uh.

 

[Krit]

$850 for a mid-tier card, lmao

Considering that RTX 5080 still costs 1900€ that's pretty optimistic. If nvidia always will artificially produce small amount of gpus (for gamers) there will never be a good prices forget about it. If AMD is aggressive enough nvidia my change it's tactics.

 

[medi01]

do you have any doubt that the 5070 will outsell this card at those prices?

Ahaha. No, I have no doubts it will outsell ANY AMD card at ANY price.

But do you know WHY it will outsell AMD's GPUs?

Three uppercaes letters, cough.

 

[Krit]

If AMD offers 7900XT perf for $700 it is still a good deal.

It's good deal for nvidia not for amd. Most of the time only nvidia side will buy overpriced piece of shit.

As long as people will buy this junk for those prices situation will not change!

RTX 5070 650-750$
RTX 5070 Ti 850-1000$
RTX 5080 1450-2000$
RTX 5090 no clue at all never was in stock

 

[medi01]

It's good deal for nvidia not for amd.

It is good deal for people actually buying GPUs. The DIY market. That market looks quite different to what many think it looks like:

Grafikkarten-Verkaufsstatistik Mindfactory Q3/2024 | 3DCenter.org

Sonntag, 3. November 2024 / von Leonidas Mit dem abgelaufenen dritten Quartal läßt sich wieder eine Statistik der Grafikkarten-Verkäufe beim deutschen Einzelhändler 'Mindfactory' aufstellen, wie immer basierend auf den

www.3dcenter.org

 

[Dawora]

I think people do not fully realized where we are.

Annual major fab improvements are over. NVidia just rolled out 'next gen' that for the most part is like the last gen. And it sells it for more than last gen. (MSRP is fake)

If AMD offers 7900XT perf for $700 it is still a good deal.
(old stock being sold for less does not matter, does it?)

Also, if there a no fab improvements, cards will last longer.
You'll upgrade even less frequently.
Which means even less money flowing into the business.

So, uh.

700$ + Vat 20% = 840e
Better value than 7900XT ?

It's good deal for nvidia not for amd. Most of the time only nvidia side will buy overpriced piece of shit.

As long as people will buy this junk for those prices situation will not change!

RTX 5070 650-750$
RTX 5070 Ti 850-1000$
RTX 5080 1450-2000$
RTX 5090 no clue at all never was in stock

 

[medi01]

700$ + Vat

Nah. The point is whatever the price of 7900XT was, minus $200-ish.

We are commenting on random speculations from internet.

piece of shit GPUs

i think

You seem to struggle at it....

 

[Vayra86]

It is good deal for people actually buying GPUs. The DIY market. That market looks quite different to what many think it looks like:

Grafikkarten-Verkaufsstatistik Mindfactory Q3/2024 | 3DCenter.org

Sonntag, 3. November 2024 / von Leonidas Mit dem abgelaufenen dritten Quartal läßt sich wieder eine Statistik der Grafikkarten-Verkäufe beim deutschen Einzelhändler 'Mindfactory' aufstellen, wie immer basierend auf den

www.3dcenter.org

Mindfactory... lmao
Might need to check your source material.

 

[medi01]

Mindfactory... lmao
Might need to check your source material.

You are welcome to share the better DIY market share indicator than figures by a shop that covers a quarter of German DIY market.

 

[lilhasselhoffer]

$850 for a mid-tier card, lmao

It's the 17th of February 2025. I'm looking at a Newegg listing on a sales flyer. It's for a no-name brand card (SOYO). List price is 469.90 USD. It's "discounted" to 249.90 USD. Do you care to guess what it is?

It could be a 4060...lord knows they are over valued.
I could be a 3060 or 3060ti. They're two generations old.
Hmmm....what do I guess?

-buzz- Time's up

It's a 2060 Super. Nearly a 6 year old low tier card for 250 USD with a "normal" price of almost double that. Newegg is really losing the whole "quality control" argument...and I'm starting to think they need to be taken out back and shown some double barrel mercy.


If the 9070 can come in around $500-550 and the XT can come in around $600-650 they'll literally wipe away everything below that price point still choking the market from two generations ago that is still commanding stupidly high pricing. I want AMD to have a win here....because right now the B580 is our only chance at bringing people into the PC scene without spending an arm and a leg. That said, I'm still reticent because AMD has a lot of room to pull a "hold my beer" moment and try for greed over competition with Nvidia...and the last few years seems to confirm they are dumb enough to make that happen.

 

[Krit]

Mentaly weak to like slow AMD gpus that cant even handel 4K gaming and FSR is piece of shit so its even worse in 4K because that

im fan of fast GPUs, AMD cant deliver those
Thanks to Nvidia my PC is allways much faster than any AMD fanboy PC

Well let's see how slow AMD really is because nvidia is only ~ 10-13% faster on average if campare to prevous gen RTX 40 Series. (It's just embarrassing like a level of pooped pants)

 

[Tek-Check]

Mentaly weak to like slow AMD gpus that cant even handel 4K gaming and FSR is piece of shit so its even worse in 4K because that
im fan of fast GPUs, AMD cant deliver those
Thanks to Nvidia my PC is allways much faster than any AMD fanboy PC

I hope you have validated yourself and feel better now about your material goods.
Now, stop trolling and grow out of this teenager mentality.

 

[AusWolf]

do you have any doubt that the 5070 will outsell this card at those prices?
zero doubts

It's not about outselling. It's about value.

No one has any doubt that the new iPhone outsells the old one, but is it better value? I don't think so.